Jefferies: Apple iPhone 5 to be 20% thinner and offer 4 inch screen with higher DPI resolution
Investors have different concerns about the Apple iPhone than fans of the smartphone have and according to the investment house, it won't make a difference to the stock of the tech titan when the iPhone 5 launches. Research from Jefferies analysts call for Apple to ship 15 million units of the new iPhone in the third quarter of this year with 50 million phones expected to be shipped in Q4. "Beginning in September, Apple will have more than 175 million iPhone subscribers globally. Assuming a two-year replacement implies a base case of about 20 million iPhones a quarter," says Jefferies.
The brokerage house says that demand for the Apple iPhone could expand if Chinese carriers DoCoMo and China Mobile add the device to their respective lineups in the fourth quarter. If that happens, another 10 million units could ship in that three month period. Taking that into consideration Jefferies report says, "Consensus' expectations for 20 percent smartphone market growth implies another 15 million units. We therefore expect Apple to beat estimates in Q4 (and in Q3, should it launch in September)."
sold out its annual WWDC which will take place in June. At the conference, besides showing off the 6th generation of the iPhone, Jefferies expects Apple to announce iOS 6 and an iCloud update. The latter will supposedly match the syncing functions of Google Drive while iOS 6 is expected to have a focus on video. As for the phone itself, so far we have seen pictures allegedly of the home button on the new device.
Other design changes that have been bandied about include the possibility of a smaller dock connector for the next Apple iPhone. We should see LTE connectivity on the phone for the first time, and there still is the question of which processor will be driving the phone. Since we can't count on a prototype to be left on the floor of a bar every year, the design of the phone will probably be left to everyone's imagination until we get closer to its introduction.
Despite recent talk from Forrester Research about an upcoming decline for Apple, the company recently blew away analyst's estimates for its fiscal Q2 and shipped a higher than expected 35.1 million units of the Apple iPhone in the latest three month period.
4. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I though the same thing. I think this thin war has to stop, I understand users don't want bricks but if there is extra space fit a bigger battery and keep size similar
14. ian132 (Posts: 28; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)
Dude the iPhone is really thick and heavy and has only a 1400 mah battery. The Droid razor maxx is about1.5 mm thinner i thinner I think but has a 3300 mah battery.
16. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
how does that contradict with my post? and the iPhone is heavy because of its "premium feel" choice of materials my friend
20. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Exactly it's glass,and steel... Not plastic.
23. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
sorry I did not understood the sarcasm
56. ian132 (Posts: 28; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)
Glass is not premium it gets sticky and sweaty and they made it glass to sell insurance. Plus the sides are so sharp I could prolly cut myself
58. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
when I said "premium" look at the double quote, I think premium materials are supposed to hold your phone together not shatter, Ive said people have to overlook certain "feel" in order to get truly durable phones. certain plastic alloys offer that. but then its called "cheap plastic" if the iphone where made of that "cheap plastic" it will be more durable and hold more battery.....
28. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)
the razr is also a lot longer and wider though....If apple can release a 4" screen with a good size battery, 4g and high rez screen, I may be back on the apple bandwagon, although the sgs3 is looking very tempting based on rumors.
33. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
1/3 of an inch (.33) is as low as I'd go.
47. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
You realize there are phones out that are less the 8mm already? and that is what 1/3 of an inch is. So we're already there.
6. jan25 (Posts: 418; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
well, imagine the 4s bulkiness on a 4 inch phone. it would be a piece brick!
8. tedkord (Posts: 5246; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
It wouldn't be any thicker than the 4s. Instead of making it 20% thinner, just make it the same thickness, with a bigger battery.
I also think the thinness push has gone too far. I'd gladly keep the same thickness for an extra couple of hours of battery life. Shrink the rest of the components, grow the battery.
17. -box- (Posts: 3873; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Agreed! Every iPhone I see is wrapped in a case which makes it three times thicker and hides it completely, because it's so fragile. If anything, make it thicker and more durable, and better looking. They've all looked boring and cheap
38. jhan410 (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
well its glass and it feels premium? lol brainwashed sheep, it feels so fragile and weak!
39. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I guess that's why nice hotels use plastic dishers and silverware right?
44. jhan410 (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
haha lol id*otic comparison,, only brainwashed sheep would like a glass on the whole body of a "gadget" esp. a "PHONE"
45. jhan410 (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
that is why 90% of all iphones are wrapped in different thick casing to cover up the so called premium beautiful GLASS. how ironic
49. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
There's no debate that the iPhone is made of great materials. It is--hands down. No arguing. But you are right that most people need a case because if it is dropped it can break. So in a way it is ironic that they focus so much on design. But the iPhone is in no way cheap or weak. It's strength is it's weakness. It's awesome design may also be considered it's downfall to some people. But most phones--other than the iPhone--have a case too. So it's not just the iPhone
51. frydaexiii (Posts: 1239; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Yes, since glass is such a nice material we should use it on cars too right? Since it looks so good and anyone who doesn't take care of their car, gets into an accident and the car gets shattered totally deserves it right?
People like you should not be allowed to breed, you sound like the 5 year old kid at my mom's kindergarten who tried to argue why we can't build houses out of biscuits. But at least the kid is 5 years old, what's your excuse for being stupid?
48. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
The iPhone may be built very well. But he does have a point there. Glass and steel are premium, but that doesn't mean glass is durable. Certainly not cheap, but the iPhone can crack pretty easily if you drop it. & almost everybody that has an iPhone has a case with it.
43. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
for marekting purposes only, just like iPad resolution is heavily marketed at BETTER than HD resolutions, its called apple snowJob marketing. bullet points that appear special but they really aren't.
Why not use the standard 1080p? because apple can say its better... even though 90 percent of all other devices roll 1080p, not apple and the iHerd eats it up
46. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
While you guys argue I was hard at work crunching some ridiculous numbers! And if the new iPhone is 20% thinner than the iPhone 4s, it will be approximately 7.2 mm. That would be pretty sweet.
And for me it's really not that fact that phones are too thick for me now. It just adds to the design when a phone is thin.
2. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 636; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Just a little offtopic: about that theory that SJ wanted to keep 3,5 inch screen because it can be operated only by one hand - it's not valid. iPhone was imagined as the device for operation with two hands - it's main innovation was two-finger pinch zooming for pictures and web, and that must be done by using two hands. Saying it was meant to comply to one hand is a little be stretched then...
About 4-inch screen - I wonder what resolution it will be - will they make above 500 PPI screen with 1920x1280 px or finally change the aspect ratio?
5. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
Idk about everyone else, but I find it fairly easy to pinch zoom with one hand. I wouldn't consider my method ideal but very functional. But I agree... Jobs was sadly mistaken thinking that 3.5 is the best size. I laugh at anything below 4.3" these days. So glad samsung introduced me to the Note! I can't go smaller anymore.
10. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
wait you can pinch with one hand? on the note? without the accelerometer zoom? congratulations
40. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
Lol yeah. Its easier than it sounds. I pinch with my index and thumb while using my pinky to hold up the phone and middle and ring fingers for support. It sounds more complicated than what it is. And like I said, its not the most ideal method but it works. (Also, zayzay, I don't put the phone down when pinch to zooming.)
41. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
you should try and see how the acelerometer (if you haven't) gestures work out (under settings I think), you just need to place two fingers on the screen and move your phone up or down to zoom
24. the_s2 (Posts: 211; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Pinch to zoom with one hand? How many fingers have you got dude?
31. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
Put the phone down, use two fingers to pinch zoom. Tada!
32. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
It's actually really easy. Three fingers on the back of the phone, thumb positioned on the phone and it doesn't move, take your index finger and slide up down, back forth whatever. Pretty simple.
9. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
it was not operation but rather reach if I'm not mistaken, and it varies with the hand, for example I don't have an issue with a droid charge I'm planing with
my hands may not be average tho
27. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
That would make it the same aspect ratio.
I think the goal would be to make the screen taller, and maybe a tad wider.
I was thinking around the 1500*800 range, as that would increase the ppi by 25% and make the screen 25% taller.
50. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
It does seem sorta resonable but why would they upgrade the ppi? It's already so dense you can't see a pixel. The only reason they would upgrade the ppi is for advertising's sake or for sake of cool numbers. No need for more ppi. The resolution will go up if the screen is bigger, but I doubt the ppi will. No need
54. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I'm basing that on the fact that the article said it would.
But yeah, if they increase it (which i agree, would be useless) they would create a marketing greatness out of it.
26. protozeloz (Posts: 5381; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
also why someone would have 500PPI? serious question... retina means eye cant see over that number why push something the human eye cant appreciate? so fanboys complaint about how bad pixels look when doing presentations on an industrial microscope?
53. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1055; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
The rumor is that they will use the resolution of the iPad 2: 1024x768 that gives the same aspect ratio and a 314 ppi (retina) on a 4 inches screen.
7. tbacba (Posts: 62; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
All I can say is "wow"! Did the Jefferies researchers also find out if it will have the capability to make a call?
11. cGmC11 (Posts: 117; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
The current iPhone 4S isn't the iPhone 5? I think the next iPhone is indeed the "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" "IPHONE 6" .............................
25. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
The upcomming iPhone will not be called the "iPhone 5" nor the "IPHONE 6"
Apple will make the same move as they did with the iPad. The upcomming iPhone (and ones after) will be know as iPhone.
To distinguish the models you can say iPhone (2012) or iPhone (6th gen)
So basically, you are wrong.
29. networkdood (Posts: 6325; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
no, it will be called iPhone 4GS - innovating again....with MMS and cut and paste...and now a 4" screen and 4G LTE radio....wow....
34. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
lol the number 4 actually makes sense:
12. valapsp (Posts: 484; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
One of the most important factors to consider is the battery. With the RAZR MAXX blowing away its competitors with its 3300 mAh battery the next generation iPhone mustn't have anything lower in terms of battery. Let's hope it'll be announced in June.
13. grif_ (Posts: 61; Member since: 28 Apr 2012)
I wonder if they'll do what they did with the latest Ipad and just call it iphone.
15. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 203; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
Im pretty sure DPI (dots per inch) is for printing not for screen resolution. PPI (pixels per inch) is the correct terminology to my knowledge.
19. jove39 (Posts: 1328; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Apple finally grows a pair to increase screen size...good for iPhone users!
37. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
This phone sounds just about perfect. 4" ( I wouldn't want anything bigger) LTE, thinner. If battery life is good I'm in!
Btw 3.5 screen was considered huge when the first iPhone launched its only last year when android started pushing out the phablets. They had to do something to dofferentiate their phones since it wasn't going to be OS.
42. frydaexiii (Posts: 1239; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Sure, and when Apple gives you 3.5inch, "I love it! The size is perfect!" or if they gave you 4.2, "This size is perfect!". Not you have any choice in the first place...3.5, 4 or 4.2, you're forced to love it, just cut the crap, sheep like you don't have opinions, you just eat up what Apple gives you.
And bulls**t on " If battery life is good I'm in!", Even if it was the iPhone 4 in a new shell you'd still be in...
55. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
It pretty much will be the same iphone in a new shell as the los design and ui and pretty much stayed stagnant since the original iphone,just getting some minor tweak here and there,most making just little differences. Iphone outwards designs seem to be stuck on 2 years change cycles to try get the most from the same phone over a two year period by siimply adding an $ to the name. This new iphone might look at bit different casing wise but the menu ui and os will be the exact same design as day one
59. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
aww taco, you are such a cute little iphone fan. Of course 4" is perfect, considering whatever they announce you will love! They could of announced 4.7" and you would of said the same thing, even though that would contradict your cute little iphone loving self and your last statement on size If it was thicker, you would of said it's the 4g so it ok apple! The battery is actually a wittle worse but I understand apple, you tried your best i'm sure!
lol to think that 1Phone,1Style that will cater to every single person in the world? no just the herd.. that is why that term exists. Because the herd just accepts whatever apple says with there 4 measly restrictive, boring products that get incremental yearly updates for premium prices.
60. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3042; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Thin part i could give two craps about but if its true about the display being larger, i just may have to give apple a second go.