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Google may require 20 preinstalled apps as part of Android contracts

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Google may require 20 preinstalled apps as part of Android contracts
While Android is open source and free for anyone to use, by far the most popular version of Android is the Google version; and, getting to use Google Android comes with a number of requirements in terms of hardware and software. A new report claims that Google may soon tweak those requirements to ask manufacturers to have more Google apps preinstalled on Android devices.

As of right now, Google requires the preinstallation of 9 Google apps in order to get certified for Google Play services; but, The Information is claiming that Google wants to raise that number to 20 preinstalled apps. It is unclear what apps are part of these packages, but we would assume the current roster of 9 apps includes staples like the Play Store, Gmail, YouTube, Maps, Search, and Calendar, whereas the expanded package might add in things like Books, Music, and Translate (which already come preinstalled on many devices anyway). Beyond requiring certain apps, Google is reportedly going to mandate where the Google Search bar is placed, and how the apps are ordered in a dedicated Google folder to be displayed on the homescreen of new devices. 

This change would follow other requirements, like having the latest version of Android installed on a new device, promising to update to the newest version of Android released within 18 months of the device launch, and of course paying a relatively small fee to get Google apps and Play services.

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posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:12 8

1. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Well that is unfair. Google is controlling OEMs and putting their services on everything. OEMs are just going to get sick and tired of it and use their own version of android or maybe windows

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:15 10

3. bucky (Posts: 2448; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


how else are they going to track and sell every piece of your life?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 18:07 6

97. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10614; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Oh stop bucky. You're making too much sense.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 19:03

110. UglyFrank (Posts: 1553; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


I found out they have a map that has a line, the gps knows everywhere you have been and keeps it on record

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 21:04 4

118. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Oh crap! Google knows you went to that my little pony convention, the truth is out! You're a brony!!! Where to you get your information from buddy? Mad Magazine? The Onion maybe?

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 06:11

135. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Only if you have location history on and don't clear the history in between.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 22:22

120. greenelektron (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Sep 2014)


Everyone just complain about anything. Hey complain just to say something.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 16:49

155. CellPhone (Posts: 3; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


Just like everyone complain on Apple?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:19 5

5. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


a) Windows does exactly the same or even worse, as they install anything they want and the OEMs can´t change that.
b) Where do you think Google makes money out of Android if it´s not for the ability to give priviledge treatement to their apps? Otherwise Android is free.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:24 14

9. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


A. You can remove every and i mean EVERY FREAKING bloatware in a WP.

2.Google makes most of it's money from advertisements.

C.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:33 8

11. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Try removing IE or outlook email sometime.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:41 9

18. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


You should look up the word "Bloatware" on beloved google.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:00 5

29. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Oh, so we can't remove built in apps on WP just like Android?

What is bloatware to me isn't bloatware to you. Glad you got the point.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:04 3

32. Pattyface (Posts: 1511; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Regardless does that make it okay that Google may add another 10 that can't be removed

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:08 7

34. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


Why will you remove Gmail from your android?
Why will we remove Outlook from our Windows Phones?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:28 4

54. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Then why are you complaining about Google or MS putting in apps we use!

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:38 4

61. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


I don't think anyone complained here.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:02

31. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Lets just admit/agree that there's crap on both OSs that everyone wishes that they could change and can't.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:00 1

30. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I can't help but feel that you were distracted when you posted this...

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:10 3

36. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


A. Did that on purpose.
2. Don't know a single preloaded app on WP that i will put on my crap list.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 17:48 4

93. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1819; Member since: 29 May 2014)


And I don't know a single app from Google's Android that I would put on my crap list. What's your point?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 18:25

100. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


This is a very valid argument. What say you Doge?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 18:24 1

99. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Internet Explorer?

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 01:15 1

125. fatexo (Posts: 213; Member since: 21 May 2010)


Why do you use A. and 2. instead of A B or 1 2 ?? :P

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 04:39

132. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


A. It's my choice.

2.Anything else?

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 02:26

126. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


You can´t remove ANYTHING that comes with the OS in WP, like IE.
And you can remove pretty much any of those applications that comes preinstalled (like maps, google mail, etc).
2. And that advertisement comes from the pre-installed apps. So you are just justifying my point.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 04:38 1

131. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


But those aren't bloat god they are part of the OS.
Ok you can root and do anything you want on Android.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 05:22 1

133. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


You can use the same argument to defend all Google applications, so it seems you just have double standards depending on the operative system.
By the way: YOU CAN REMOVE MOST OF THEM IN ANDROID. Which you can´t in WP.
EG: you can remove Gmail and Chrome, you can´t remove IE or Outlook. See the difference there?

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 05:28 1

134. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


But they dont forcefully put 20 apps to use services.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 08:15 1

138. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Do you want the list? It´s probably bigger than 20, it´s just that you count them as "not bloatware" and "part of the OS" lists.
Including OneDrive, bing, IE, OneNote, Outlook, etc
You just don´t realize of that.
And at least in Android you can remove (most of) them.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 08:29

140. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


At least its part of the OS and most people are OK with it.
And most fandroids dont do rooting and all that.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 08:55

144. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Most of the people buying Android are OK with Google services. It´s only Windows fanatics like you that seem to have a problem with them.
And you are again wrong: you don´t need rooting to uninstall the Google services, they only come installed but it´s your choice to keep them or uninstall them, unlike with WP, where you have to live with Microsoft services/applications like it or not.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 09:03

147. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


I never said that i have a problem !!
It was just you bashing WP for the same reason on comment #5.
Also,most people who buy WP are OK with preloaded MS services.I use outlook,onedrive etc.
And again they are more part of the OS than standalone app.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 14:55

152. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


But that's the problem there. Microsoft forces its services on others because they build the crap into their OS. Weather you want it or not, it's not up to the user to make the phone their own.

And TylerGrunter, you're wrong, preinstalled software cannot be deleted on phones, not without root access. It can be disables, but the program is still there, the code is still taking up storage space.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 07:26

162. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Same goes for Android: most people are OK with the Google applications, with the extra advantage that if they don´t they can be uninstalled.
And I was not bashing WP, just answering to theguy2345 that said that if Google does that OEMs will move to WP.
Which is ridiculous as the situation is the same or worse in that regard for WP. That was all the point I wanted to make. I don´t think that´s bashing.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 14:48

151. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I'm sorry, but the argument the web browser is part of the OS doesn't fly any more. They used that BS back in the 90's when they were trying to force out Netscape Navigator. Internet Explorer is so full of vulnerabilities, it's crap software. If people are unable to install it then that's a prime example of Microsoft being guilty of what you're criticizing Google for.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:27 2

10. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


google will make money the way they have on android for the last couple of years. no need to shove it in everyone`s face

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 02:27

127. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Google have been making money exactly by forcing OEMs to install their set of applications since day one.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 19:51 1

114. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


Thats an Apples and Oranges argument. Google prides itself on being an open platform yet it isn't acting like one. Too much rules to follow, thats not the definition of open.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 02:31 3

128. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


The platform is still open. Anyone can create a new branch with the AOSP, that´s what makes it open. You can´t do that with WP
Getting the certifiction to install the google applications is what it´s not free (of obligations, as the certification is really cheap)

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 21:28

158. jroc74 (Posts: 5980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Truth right here.

Remember folks...the A isn AOSP is Android. This article is about.....Google's version of Android.

I mean come on this is the first 2 lines in the article:

"While Android is open source and free for anyone to use, by far the most popular version of Android is the Google version;'

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:35

164. sanchesyoo (Posts: 13; Member since: 20 Sep 2014)


Actually you are correct about the A being android but the fact that android IS in fact google since they were the ones who bought it at the very beginning of android history must have flown past your ears/eyes

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:34 5

13. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


"Well that is unfair."

Why? They don't pay a cent for the OS. And if they don't like it, there is always Android without the apps.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 15:43 3

19. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


it is still an unethical thing to do. force it on every OEM, and shove it in every consumer`s face

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:07 1

33. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Like how Microsoft is forcing Google off of it's platform? I find that very unethical. I think that what Google is doing is alright as they're offering their platform to others to use with 0 licensing fees. If there happens to be a condition to use the OS then I say that's perfectly acceptable. After all, how many billions of dollars have companies like Samsung, LG, and HTC made off of Google's Android?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:12 3

39. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


you can use google as the default search engine. and MS also doesn`t charge a licensing fee anymore.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:17 4

44. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Really? I read several articles saying that Microsoft was stripping Google search as a default search option. Are you saying that is a lie then? I honestly can't say first hand as I've actually never used a Windows Phone. I could probably find a few links to back my statement up though.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:22

49. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Yeah, on a couple, not all. and again, I am not going to argue with you, for the same reasons I said to sprockkets

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:31 5

57. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Of course you aren't, because you are wrong.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:45

69. theguy2345 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


I don`t argue with people that defend a company like the end of the world. I will have a logical argument, which I enjoy. Not one with an irrational fanboy like yourself

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 17:22 4

87. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


And I haven't used logic...where? Strawman.

Businesses exist to make money, Google and MS aren't charities to give away everything for free.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 17:27 2

88. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


That and saying "it isn't ethical" is your opinion and you provided no logical argument either to prove it.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:29 1

55. DogeShibe (Posts: 1110; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)


I think that was for certain regions only.
I can perfectly use google as default search provider.

http://postimg.org/image/kvikumxon/eb1c284b/

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 16:57

76. Pattyface (Posts: 1511; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Agreed.. Its only regionally that they don't allow Google. Sprocket clearly misunderstood the full story. Regardless I love my opo and the apps that it has. I think the biggest issue with this story is that Google has been all about choice and for them to add 10 more apps to the "can not delete" group it signifies that things could slowly be changing on how Google operates

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 21:01 1

117. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


I actually agree with your statement 100%. I love all of Google's apps, and if they didn't offer them I would still download them. That being said, I still want that choice, and the choice to delete unwanted apps, not just disable them. I love Google, but what I wouldn't give for a flagship phone with only the play store preinstalled.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 02:34

129. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1507; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


For getting a phone with only the play store you can go to Nexus, that´s what I do.
For the unwanted apps there is not much you can do as OEMs have the code and therefore they can change whatever they want. Blame them (and the carriers) for that.

posted on 27 Sep 2014, 14:59

153. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Well, even the Nexus brand still had Google Apps preinstalled. My last phone was the Galaxy Nexus, so I know first hand. And no, I'm not talking about the crap that Verizon forced on the phone.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 20:02

115. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


OK, you have a point. Can you tell me why they would do that for the specific region(s) that would be an honest of fair practice? or does it not matter that they're forcibly removing search competition because it's only on certain areas or on certain models?

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 18:34

101. DarkStar286 (Posts: 196; Member since: 18 Mar 2014)


I'm a Windows Phone user (on the dev track so I have the very latest version), I just checked I can can assure you that you can still select Google as your default search provider.

posted on 26 Sep 2014, 22:15

119. dorfoz (Posts: 149; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Because if Google tried to even attempt at making 1 penny off their services besides advertising they will get sued so bad not just by Microsoft but a ton of companies; Samsung, Sony and every android OEM's will have to make their own OS.

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