Correction: new battery life results of G3 and S5
5. steedsofwar (Posts: 288; Member since: 07 Oct 2013)
Respect to PA for acknowledging and apologising.
33. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Respect for PA indeed... Now results are similar to what GSMArena got and this site just gained a bit more credibility.
Xperia Z2 is now the top battery flagship
53. enthasuium (Posts: 120; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
i think Phonearena relized when every other site except phonerena battery test confirmed that s5 beats G3 by good margin.
What about those article on other site who refereed the wrong phonerena report to their site????
60. rd_nest (Posts: 1117; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Mistakes happen. So no worry about that.
Good that it has been corrected.
I would like to know details of that script.
65. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9810; Member since: 14 May 2012)
UPSM will outlast your Z2's Stamina Mode any day.
72. Busyboy (unregistered)
And here you come again, still trying to put down the Z2. The phone won, sit down!
74. jcdz89 (Posts: 78; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)
We need a real battery life improvement. .not a mode that turn ur smartphone into a feature phone. .like or not it's another gimmicky effort to hide mediocre 2800mah capacity..
75. DerryAhmad (Posts: 256; Member since: 05 May 2012)
The Xperia Z2 is indeed the current King of Android Flagship Battery Life.
GS5 and HTC One M8 still deliver great battery life.
Now other sites (eg.BGR) who used PhoneArena's earlier LG G3's battery life test article can correct their articles too ;)
I applaud PhoneArena for apologizing and correcting their mistake tho. The site has gained more credibility for me.
3. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
Looks like alot of people that were bashing Xperia Z2 for having a shorter battery life despite its bigger battery have nothing much to say. Anyway for a phone like G3 that is some pretty impressive numbers!
4. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Haha epic fail, haters facepalm! GS5 FTW... Now which's the rushed product, QHD FAIL :(
6. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
That's still some pretty impressive numbers for a Qhd screen! They could probably do better if they put that battery optimisation on a FHD screen but I think 7hours is more than enough to last a typical user throughout the day!
8. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
My bad '6 hours' okay now I'm not sure if it will last the whole day...
10. Edward_bly (Posts: 262; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
I don't think you'll be using your phone for 6 hours straight.
14. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
Maybe some dude decides to binge-watch like a whole season of drama series in one shot.
7. smallworld (Posts: 455; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Ah I knew it. How could a QHD phone beat a 1080p phone with a bigger battery ?
31. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
One of my gripes about the G3 is the removable battery. I think it was better off non-removable, allowing LG to further optimize it to the phone. If they did that, that QHD screen would've lasted longer. But hey, each man to their opinions.
43. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
LG G3's battery life is still very impressive dude.
even some people will rely on this results still that 6;14hours is impressive considering the big 5.5 QHD display.
81. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
A BIT impressive. But that battery life should've been "flagship-grade". QHD is not necessary. It would've been better if they perfected their FHD screens and slid in a bigger battery. It's still GS5>G3 for me.
44. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
removable battery is better i hate my OG because of non-removable battery.
83. preter (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Jun 2014)
That is the perfect example of the dumb consumer. The removeable battery is the most important thing of all electronic devices!
What optimization can one do making it non-removeable?
All the phones with non-removeable batteries like the HTC/i-Craps have always ended up packing smaller capacity batteries than the Samsungs/LGs with their removeable ones.
84. thunder18 (Posts: 119; Member since: 06 Aug 2009)
G2s non-removeable battery is the same size (3000mAh) as the G3s removable batter, yet it seems to be able to surpass the G3s battery life.
86. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
Well, for one it has way less pixels to power. And it's also non-removable (their stacking method wouldn't work if it is removable).
85. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
If I am a dumb consumer, will you please explain why the Z2, with a non-removable cover and battery, has a bigger capacity than S5 and G3 (also the best battery life between the 3)? And you said 'All'. I'm sorry, dude. I don't think you're as smart as you think.
87. preter (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Jun 2014)
That's because you REALLY ARE a DUMB consumer (your own words, not mine!).
You can't even tell the difference! The Z2 has only a 5.2" display in the same external dimensions, so obviously it can choose to squeeze in whatever else it wants to. In this case a 6.7% bigger battery? Big deal.
If you look at the historical evidence, sealed battery phones from the major players have invariably had smaller batteries - which is why the likes of HTC/Apple are always losing market share - cos their battery life is suck. It will suck even more when those fools who buy such phones see their phones die completely after a year or so.
Come back again in a year so we can laugh at you & your Z2 when its dead or when it switches off at 50% power.
88. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
Dude, there was a keyword there. I said "IF I am..."
If you look at the historical evidence, the G2 had a sealed battery, a bigger battery and screen than the S4, had a more powerful chipset but still beating the S4's battery life. And it still has a bigger battery than the S5 while being a year-old device.
To answer your question from your comment in which you called me dumb:
The perfect example of such optimizations is the G2's battery. The stacking method that LG did would NOT work if it were removable.
Also, HTC had a decline in their market share because of that damn Ultrapixel camera. It wasn't a marathon runner, but it certainly was not bad.
Apple lost market share because Android offered so much more options with better cameras, bigger/higher resolution screens and its customization options. But it barely made a dent to the iPhone sales.
Removable batteries don't always last longer than sealed ones. But that also applies vice versa.
Now, I certainly want to end this argument. It gets stupid when we get worked up to such unnecessary things.
89. preter (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Jun 2014)
G2 is hardly historical but since you brought it up... they innovated with a stacked battery, but that's because LG had LG Chem making batteries. Stacked is no more than a form of curving. Which was exactly what they did with the G3's removeable battery. Hence you made your own points sound stupid - sealed batteries are never any better/bigger than removeable ones! They are the same component/materials/chemicals! But when they die, which they ALL DO... that’s when idiots like you get screwed.
The idiot manufacturers get away with sealing the doors/casings on the phones because there are idiot consumers like you allowing them to.
You may have only just crawled out of your cave yesterday, but here are the real historical facts about why the likes of iCrap and HTC have been bleeding market share.
The iCrap 5S has the biggest battery capacity ever in all of iCrap history - a pathetic ~1570 mAh. The HTC M8 has only (2600mAh). In contrast, Samsung as the flag bearer/poster boy of all phones removeable batteries has the S5 (2800mAh).
Prior to that it was iCrap 5 (1440mAh) & HTC One (2300mAh), Sony Xperia Z (2330mAh) vs S4 (2600mAh).
Prior to that it was iCrap 4s (1432mAh) & HTC One X (1800mAh) vs S3 (2300mAh).
My old S2 came with an original 1650mAh battery that died after 1 yr 7 months (bless it in tech heaven). But with a third party 2100mAh battery inside that is the same dimensions as the original battery, its better than the day I bought the phone (especially with custom ROMs & kernels with KitKat). I am still using it as my spare phone or give it to family, or sell it for $150-$200. Whereas whatever crap you bought back then with a sealed battery would have been polluting the scrap heaps years ago.
HTC went stupid in following a failed model espoused by that crap fruit company. HTC used to make the best phones during the early Android days. HTC Legend/Hero etc. had unibody metal bodies WITH removeable batteries. Nowadays they make phones with removeable backs but with batteries that are sealed in and GLUED permanently between the PCB & display. See iFixit.com and other tear down reports you fools! HTC & iCraps ranks as the worst on the repairability scale (1-3 out of 10 typically) and together in cahoots with the likes of you are an obscene contributor to our unmitigated environmental eco disaster.
I’d like to see all the idiots who whine & moan orgasmically about their metal bodies (cos they must surely buy them with ulterior sick motives…) ultimately look like fools when their screens go blank & cannot power up.
90. jascha36 (Posts: 1; Member since: 21 Jul 2014)
Same external dimensions?
LG G3:146.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm (5.76 x 2.94 x 0.35 in)
XPERIA Z2:146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm (5.78 x 2.89 x 0.32 in)
Actually LG G3 is 10% bigger than the Z2 because of the thickness.
G3 has bigger qhd display, Z2 has waterproof and bigger battery so I think they are both good, just have different focuses...
34. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
Oh, wait. The S5 has 2800 mAh while G3 has 3000mAh.
39. smallworld (Posts: 455; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
I meant the Z2. Reclaiming its position as king. 3200 mAh.
45. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
Z2's battery is non- removable so its not good to me.
57. smallworld (Posts: 455; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Of course its not good for you since you're a fanboy.
58. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
and you too.. lol
im using three different phone brands
samsung s5, pantch vega iron, LG G3
71. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Okay please be honest for a while, which display is superior S5 or G3 according to you?
82. BaffledTruffle (Posts: 391; Member since: 07 Dec 2013)
But the G3 has horrible battery life. Is that really what you want?
9. steedsofwar (Posts: 288; Member since: 07 Oct 2013)
PA team, do you think the Z2 may have been subject to the same mistake? I am not partial to any manufacturer as I'm old enough to love all technology. I am actually considering the Z2 for upgrade.
12. Ray.S (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
Hi steedsofwar, we've checked, and no - the Z2's result isn't affected by this issue. It was limited to the G3 and S5 only.
17. steedsofwar (Posts: 288; Member since: 07 Oct 2013)
Thanks for the reply. That is good to know.
41. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
im using my LG G3 SK Telecom.(3G) its does a very good performance in batterylife. just about morethan 7;42 hours of continues browsing.
real life usage is the most important to me.
Phonearena battery test results
LG G2 6;48hours. 5.2 FHD 3000mAh .
LG G3 6:14hours. 5.5 QHD 3000mAh.
still that 6;14 hours score is very Impressive.
according to PhoneArena LG G2 lasted 6;48hours.
according to GsmArena LG G2 lasted 12;hours in browsing
according to PhoneArena Samsung galaxy s5 lasted 7;38Hours.
according to GsmArena Samsung Galaxy s5 lasted 9:36hours in Browsing.
according to GsmArena LG G2 has better batterylife than S5!
according to PhoneArena S5 has better batterylife than G2!
55. belatukadro (Posts: 11; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
Battery life is subjective. But, we knew that already.
80. DerryAhmad (Posts: 256; Member since: 05 May 2012)
Naah.. you're comparing apples and oranges. PhoneArena test doesn't work similarly with GSMArena's (only) browsing test.
If you want to compare both phones.. Use the Endurance test from GSMArena vs PhoneArena Battery Test:
or.. ask PhoneArena for Batterylife test only for browsing, then you can compare it with GSMArena's.
This correction actually confirmed GSMArena's endurance test
1. Z2:(PA: 8:10, GSMA: 89H)
2. S5 (PA: 7:38, GSMA: 72H)
3. M8 (PA: 7:12, GSMA: 71H)
4. G2 (PA: 6.48, GSMA: 62H)
5. G3 (PA: 6:14, GSMA: 69H)
6. 5s (PA: 5:2, GSMA: 54H)
Meanwhile.. PA stil refuses to include WindowsPhone on their batterylife test (and Camera BlindTest). I'm curious to see PA's result on the Lumia 1520 monster battery life (GSMA score: 107H)
52. buccob (Posts: 2011; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Hi Ray, thanks you and the team for correcting this wrong info... however I would like to know what exactly was the cause of the issue?
Was it on the manufacturer's side, like the cpu benchmark tweaking? or was it a problem with the script used on your battery benchmark?
or something else?
11. ajac09 (Posts: 1430; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
lol only apologize when it come to android vs android and never when their bosses apple iphone capabilities are over blown.
13. AizenMne (Posts: 10; Member since: 22 May 2014)
You have clearly shown that you dislike LG. :) Samsung fanboys or paid Samsung fanboys, :D
15. nbringer (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Cash from SAMSUNG received... correction posted...
16. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3399; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
You're not very smart, are you? The S5's battery life went down with the new results. You think they paid to get a worse result? I'll never understand you fanboys with your idiotic comments.
28. nbringer (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Fanboy... what if I'd tell you that I have a SAMSUNG? :) Would that make a better person? Just asking...
32. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
No. And even I dont have a samsung phone right now... I'm an android fan, who hates fanboy wars between android OEMs and the needless samsung hating.
23. nbringer (Posts: 180; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Ts,ts,ts... insulting is not good strategy to prove any point. Learn that from me!
Yes I think SAMSUNG paid to get worst result but still better than the biggest threat, LG ...
29. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Biggest threat?LG? LOL... Samsung doesnt even care about android OEMs, all they care is to one up Apple... Their biggest threat. G3 is flop.
47. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
G3 is Flop? LOL
just wait for the announcement of G3 sales.
by the way Samsung & lg are one!
48. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
G3 is the most successful LG phone ever!
then how can you its a FLOP? LOL
51. refillable (Posts: 832; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
You could rant as much as you want saying that you're not a fanboy, but that statement shows a fanboy nature after all.
54. refillable (Posts: 832; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
It does have some benefits against the competition. While it's relatively not as good as the G2, it is not a flop. In fact I admit it is not the phone that I find to like, but I won't call iPhones a flop. I will call it stupid however. But the G3 is still going to sell very good, and will set records of LG phone's sales, as analysts think.
61. LGisgood (Posts: 810; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
im using three different phone brands
samsung galaxy s5, Pantech vega iron, and LG G3.
yes im a fan of all KOREAN PHONE COMPANIES!
64. refillable (Posts: 832; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Come on, stop talking to yourself. You already end up like a fool earlier this month. Don't bring it into the next level.