Apple's motion for an European ban on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 leaks with comparative design drawings
The pan-European ban of Samsung's latest and greatest tablet excludes the Netherlands, but the trial there is going on right now, and might result in the slate being banned everywhere in the EU. The German law allows this, even without notifying the other side about the proceedings, but if the plaintiff doesn't have a strong enough case, they might end up paying damages for the incurred loss of revenue.
The injunction document explicitly asks for a ban on "using, in particular, manufacturing, offering (including advertising), introducing into the market, importing, exporting and/or possessing for the said purposes" of Samsung's gizmo, pictures of which are placed next to Apple design drawings in the motion as illustrated below:
Forrester Research even raised its prediction for non-iPad tablet sales from 20% to 30% of the market in Europe this year, unlike the US, where the iPad hold 80%.
The analysts attribute this to the fact that Apple doesn't have as big of a retail presence in Europe as in the US, and, also, the European carriers had started offering pretty enticing bundles, where the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is deeply subsidized if you purchase with a carrier contract.
source: FOSSPatents & Moconews
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Crazy apple !
those drawings of the so called iPad here, does not even look like a real iPad. It looks like a copy of the galaxy tab !!!
2. android_hitman (unregistered)
apple is losing market and the only thing they can do is to ban other products .. because apple wants to spread like a cancer .. i really hate you now apple .. i repected you before .. but now .. f**k you ..
3. germanguy (unregistered)
oh yeah. it has a big screen, a frame arount the screen. its thin and the edges are rounded down. it has to be a copy of the ipad! damn i hate this new patent/sue-trend.
4. Tråget (unregistered)
OMFG, it's square, and the entire front is covered with a display. it has to be a rip-off of the iPad2!!!
What the f*ck is wrong with apple, get a life.
5. MIke (unregistered)
Europeans must be blind to not see the difference!
6. xenover (Posts: 174; Member since: 27 May 2011)
That German judge clearly didn't see any difference...
7. Fayez (unregistered)
can someone tell me why are they comparing sketch to real pics of samsung galaxy tab 10.1. wtf is this. real pic difference is a lot.
have a look at this picture
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8. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Of course, Apple would probably hate it if the iPad were shown alongside some of the old Microsoft tablets from almost ten years ago.
Other companies: you violated our patents! We would like some monetary compensation for the use of our IP.
Apple: You violated our patents! And your product is possibly going to be very popular! So we absolutely demand that you never be allowed to sell at all ever in a million years!!!!
13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
That's nonsense. Apple made the tablet market we have today. Samsung is obviously copying Apple's design. Their phones and tablet have the same look, same colors and similar UI design. Remember when the iPad 2 came out and Samsung said we need to be more competitive. Then they made their tablet look more like the iPad 2.
There's no lawsuit against plenty of tablet makers that are not trying to trick people into thinking their tablet is an Apple product.
19. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Remember when the iPad 2 came out and majority of the device was manufactured by Samsung then Apple decided to tell Samsung to go f**k themselves by suing their asses, trying to ban their products all over the world, and saying how LG will be their main manufacturer?
Yeah.... about that, Apple is crying back to Samsung now because LG is unable to meet their demands.
If Samsung declines, Apple will probably sue Samsung for infringing on Apple displays, made by Samsung.
If Samsung accepts, Apple will probably sue Samsung for infringing on Apple displays, made by Samsung.
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
You're not even on topic, but there's plenty of screen manufacturers. Apple can do just fine without Samsung.
23. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
then why did they ''run'' back to apple and not any other company when lg were making rubbish screens for the ipad2 and i know this has nothing to do with this article.
24. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
No, you're not on topic. My post is clearly countering your ignorant post.
"Remember when the iPad 2 came out and Samsung said we need to be more competitive. Then they made their tablet look more like the iPad 2."
47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm commenting on the article which is about Samsung being banned from selling their tablet. Your response is:
"Remember when the iPad 2 came out and majority of the device was manufactured by Samsung then Apple decided to tell Samsung to go f**k themselves by suing their asses, trying to ban their products all over the world, and saying how LG will be their main manufacturer?
Yeah.... about that, Apple is crying back to Samsung now because LG is unable to meet their demands. "
That's not the same topic. You didn't mention anything about this lawsuite.
53. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Because the lawsuit happened, which is considered in the past. Because of the lawsuit, Apple went to LG as it's leading manufacturer. Now in the present, Apple is crying back to Samsung. This is cause and effect. It was pretty common knowledge.
26. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
A little dose of your own Apple infested blogs.
32. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
but the "retina" display that all you fanboys rub yourselves to, and boast is what makes the idiotPhone the best one....
Is made by Samsung you dumbass
9. taz (unregistered)
omg the judge must be retarted if he granted the injunction on those drwaing..guess the only good thing that will come out is the damahes that app will have to pay
10. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And yet the courts agree with Apple and have banned the samsung tablet. So all the trolls here think it's unfair while an educated court feels that samsung IS copying. Why is that? According to you guys Apple should sit back and let people steal from them.
This is promising. Now I'm thinking there's a good chance of a ban of samsung and htc in the US.
11. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
hahaha, just because som court system in the EU is corrupted does not mean Samsung is copying apple.
Apple is going to pay for this when Samsung sues them and apple has to pay costs and damages to samsung
12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
We will see. So far samsung has been banned in all of EU and Australia. If this was a joke like you android fanatics say the case would be thrown out.
15. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Mr Taco, im not an fandroid.
I am a fan of bada and MeeGo not Android.
But i do think that this is very unfair to Samsung and very foul play by Apple.
18. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
if you read the whole story samsung were not even given a notice or even a chance to defend themself and the only reason that apple were able to get this ban in that manner is if samsung get the decision overturned then apple will have to pay damages to samsung.
14. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
As usual, reading comprehension is beyond your grasp, Taco. The ban is not a final decision, it's a preliminary measure until it's determined whether Samsung is really infringing. If the decision goes in Samsung's favor, Apple will have to pay Samsung reparations.
The same goes for Australia too.
Granted, Apple has a lot of cash, but should this go badly for them, they'll have to pay two continents' worth of compensation for Samsung's lost sales.
33. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
your right, taco50 can't read or write or think for himself
But think of this, in a courtroom sometimes the lawyer will say something that is stricken from the record or overruled, but you can't put the cork back in the bottle, even if this thing is thrown out, Apple has spread their venom and more sheep to their flock.
16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I understand the article very well. My point stands. If this was so frivolous why are the courts agreeing with Apple?
17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
They arent agreeing with apple. They granted a temporary injunction until a decision can be made.
If apple wins, then the injunction is permanent. If apple loses then apple has to pay samsung for ALL the lost sales that they expected from the Tab.
An injunction is in no way a final decision.
And if apple's case is so strong why are they using drawings with little detail in them instead of the actual product? Why? because when you draw a tablet, they all look about the same.. But only and iDiot would not be able to tell the difference by actually seeing both tablets. They are playing dirty pool. Im glad you like bullies cheaters, that says a lot about you.
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So the courts grant injunctions for no reason then?
20. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Because, Taco, that's how courts work: if there's even a possibility that a company's products are infringing on patents, it would be useless to keep allowing them to sell during the months it takes to close the case.
As Remixfa said, this is not an act of agreement with Apple. I'm thinking maybe we need to pool our resources and send you back to school so you aren't so goddamned ignorant,
25. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
@sniggly why do you even bother to try and explain...you will never get through the fanboyism..i myself studied law so i concur with you...mr taco i put it plain and simple its like the judge not giving bail to the defendant but that does not mean they are guilty but the court is being safe just incase they are.
48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
So you guys are familiar with European laws? Also you truly believe that the courts would BAR a company from selling their product without some serious evidence of infringement?
Who's the real sheep here?
27. cybervlad81 (Posts: 84; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)
I wonder if Apple cares if they lose. Even if Samsung gets compensation, how do you compensate, market saturation. By holding Samsung off, Apple gets to keep it's percentages high, and the way the market tends to work, even if a better product is out there, the number in the field can tilt the scale to go for a less effective product. I personally have not used a Samsung 10.1 tablet so I don't know if its better, The point of my comment is mainly just to ask, can money in hand pay for the loss of saturation in a market? Apple seems to be a pro at the latest dirty games... not sure if I want to hate them for it or commend them for an excellent play of the system. I know I would hate them if I was the competition, but I work for a software company and we support both, lol.
Personally I like the way Android OS operates more than iOS, but that is more of an opinion and my style of use seems to match Android better, than a hard look at the two products.
28. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
you hit the nail on the head you cannot pay for market satuation no matter what and apple are happy to pay for damages as they know for that exact reason because regardless of how much they pay it will not really mean anything in the long term...i think that apple are trying to stop the samsung tab lines to become popular as the galaxy s phone lines...for example people ask me that the new galaxy s phone you have and not is that a new android phone, basically what am saying is that samsung have created a ''galaxy s'' brand which has been popular throughout the Asia and European market and apple are trying to stop the samsung tabs becoming as popular...
30. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
my conclussion is this.....a Galaxy Tab looks identical to a sketched ipad 2 ... no need to bring a real ipad2 here... we can see for ourselves...
31. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
lol just read that apple are suing motorola over the design on the XOOM...this is getting pathetic and joke
34. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
If Apple is truly suing Moto over the XOOM also, that goes to show that it is nothing other then Apple trying to maintain the market share by kicking out the competitors. They are scared little men.
35. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
we should thank Apple for this.. as nobody remembers the Xoom even existed.. so Apple is doing charity work and giving free publicity to the rushed under cooked Tablet... Thank you Apple
39. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
xoom was a flop but the zoom in noway resembles an ipad that thong is a brick lol...what this shows is that apple are going to sue anyone that may be threat in the future. sadly this is what apple has now become a company that sues over the broadest of designs..what a joke the system has become and apple is taking full advantage of it .
40. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
dont hate the player,... hate the game....
36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I can't wait until this ban becomes permanent. I'm betting a few of you fandriods commit suicide lol
37. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
only people that are going to commit suicide are the ifanboys when they hear that their messiah jobs is gone.
42. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It's obvious you've come back to this article and read our posts. Nice job acknowledging you were wrong, dumbass.
38. ogre150 (Posts: 22; Member since: 16 Apr 2010)
I have some drawings of a tablet that look awfully similar to the drawings of the iPad 3. I need to go to Germany an file for an injunction against Apple.
Obviously the loophole about no need to notify the other party of the injunction proceedings is why Apple went to Germany. Other wise this garbage ploy would've never passed.
Apple and iSheep suck.
41. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
listen Shrek . put away those kindergarten drawings u call sketches of a tablet... delete them from youur computer... or Apple will after your green butt and take the 150 off of you.. Ogre
43. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
You know what, let Apple destroy all the competition, then when the cost of a new iPhone is about what you pay for a small car, then all the fanboys will be saying......Whaaaaaaaaaat??????
44. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and the best part is...... that fandroids.. will be forced to buy Apple products as well.. soo.. mr. Darth8ball..
46. Sniggly (Posts: 7290; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'll invent my own goddamn cell phone before I'll ever buy an Apple product.
54. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
That would require some serious work : )
45. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
I would rather carry two cups with a string attatched.
50. duder (unregistered)
isnt that the iphone5?
51. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
then you will still be using Apple technology .. as you will have reception issues.. sorry.. had to trow it out there..lol...
52. remyrz (Posts: 194; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)
apple needs something more than steepid :-/... they are good, they start it all.. but c'mon... you don't have to be a fandroid to hate apple for this kinda things.. this is stupid >.>..