13.8-inch Google Project Ara tablet spotted on GFXBench: Snapdragon 810, 3GB RAM and more
1. Saioofi (Posts: 237; Member since: 23 May 2014)
A 14" tablet running android with a 1-year-old processor... Is Google out of its mind?
6. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1924; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Did you miss this:
"With Project Ara, a user would be able to switch out a processor..."
8. bucky (Posts: 2448; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
But what is the point there are always only 2 top processors on the android front every year. Just give me the best specs for the best price.
I was interested in this originally but I fail to see how this benefits me without pc like hardware options.
9. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1924; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Agreed, I still wouldn't even consider this ARM tablet unless it can be upgraded to a Surface Pro at least. I'm hoping an Intel Core would be one of the CPU modules.
12. sgodsell (Posts: 3079; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
We are not talking Windows or OS/X here. We are talking Android which is an agnostic platform. It doesn't matter if your processor is ARM, x86, or anything else because Android takes you away from all that. Android apps can run on any ARM based processor, MIPS, or any Intel or AMD processor. The only reason why project Ara came to be was Android was a full fledged agnostic platform. It's only recently that Apple and Microsoft want to follow in these footsteps. Apple with their Swift language and runtime, and Microsoft with their Universal apps and runtime. Both are trying to follow in Androids agnostic approach. However Android has 1.8 million agnostic apps.
14. sgodsell (Posts: 3079; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
MrElectrifyer you talk it being a Surface Pro with an Intel Chip. There is nothing stopping Ara from using an Intel processor. Well except for power consumption, heat, and size. Although Intel has improved over the years. ARM has also improved as well. ARM sell more processors in one year than Intel does in 5 years. You are forgetting that Android is based on Linux and now supports way more hardware that both Windows and OS/X by a mile. It's because of this versatility that Android and Linux have taken off. You are forgetting that both Microsoft and Apple have become more closed with their OS's as time marches on. Only a handful actually have the ability to actually add anything to their respective operating systems. Windows use to be more open, but we all know that has changed.
15. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1924; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Processor alone doesn't make it a Surface Pro. Android is a joke on Tablets, it'll have to be capable of booting the full Windows 10 pro (which is what the CPU will be a gateway to), support the extensive range of USB peripherals, and be capable of receiving input via a digitizer pen. Point is, no need for modular parts if all of them are bastardized crap compared to a whole device.
As for Windows being less open, not sure WTF you're talking about...
23. sgodsell (Posts: 3079; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
The joke is on you if you think Android is a joke on tablets. Considering their is way more touch centric apps for Android, then there is for any Windows tablet.
You are talking about modules that you have no knowledge of what so ever. You are using assumptions, which is proving to the world your lack of knowledge.
"As for Windows being less open, not sure WTF you're talking about.". Wow, you like proving to the world how ignorant you really are. Does anyone have access to Windows 10 source code? Nope, only Microsoft and even then only a select few actually have access to Windows 10 OS code. You want more proof. Look at Windows 10 IoT. Windows only supports a tiny few boards. Whereas Linux and Android support thousands. You must be living in the past.
24. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
You keep talking this mile talk, but we will wait when the mile means something to consumers. Custom made chips and one offs, do nothing for the consumer grade, professional? sure, my router is probably running some form of Linux, but don't expect that Linux core to start running angry birds anytime soon.
Android apps while they can run on anything because of being in Java...I cannot take an android apk, throw it in Linux like Ubuntu and call it a day. Good luck. You still need the middle man. You will either have to install a distro that supports the hardware you are using or do some rebuilding.
And not all Linux are the same.
At the end of the day...if x86 hardware was so simple and cheap for a phone, they would simply have thrown it in the mix. You still need specific code for OEMs because they skin the hell out of it or change it to the point, that I cannot download a nightly and throw it on my amd chip without some work to be done. However I can take my windows and throw it on any x86/64 chip with ease, the only standard for desktop. Only recently has windows even needed ARM.
27. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1924; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Touch Centric doesn't equal tablet optimized dummy. Android tablets just use a blown up version of SmartPhone optimized apps. There's probably way more tablet optimized apps on the Windows Store than the entire Play Store. Regardless of that, there's really no exclusive benefits to Android tabs as everything they offer is just an emulator away on Windows Tablets. There's a reason Samsung is switching to Windows 10 on their Galaxy Tab line...
Regarding the modules, ever heard of deductive reasoning? WTF do you think the modules are gonna do in the first place dummy? They're just for future-upgrading components of the device. No need for them if none of them can make the device better than a Surface Pro, best tablet on the market IMO.
What does having the source code open do for consumers besides having OEM-side customization? Which itself further delays devices receiving OS updates and also locks-in bloatware with most OEMs? The security part definitely holds no water, having a few ambitious devs coding for an OS is nothing compared to having an organization of 100,000+ devs working on it. So, what other benefit does it bring that Windows is currently missing out on compared to Android?
7. adsg48 (Posts: 55; Member since: 18 Apr 2015)
It's an Android tablet not an Android high-end smartphone. So it is quite natural. Samsung did the same with its high-end S series tablets. Only Apple fits a more powerful processor to iPad than iPhone.
10. Bambule (Posts: 9; Member since: 22 Sep 2015)
No, just google dont cares about kids like you who make a dick contest with soc bulls**t talk ;)
21. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10642; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
"Is Google out of its mind?"
You just now figured this out?
3. IAMBLCKJ3ZUS (Posts: 177; Member since: 29 Sep 2015)
Yawn give me a surface phone running full windows 10 all metal build with bluestacks.
4. 47AlphaTango (Posts: 244; Member since: 27 Sep 2015)
With that back camera specs. What the heck is google thinking?!
11. hwb01 (Posts: 237; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)
First, it's a giant tablet.
Second, Project Ara will let you swap the cameras for a better one, or even for something that isn't a camera.
5. Martineverest (Posts: 194; Member since: 27 Oct 2015)
Google is becoming directionless.... Gradually missing vr and ar race; list the tablet race to Windows... What's next?
16. sgodsell (Posts: 3079; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
You do know that Android still sells more tablets than Windows and Apple. This is 100% a fact. It's only because Android is totally free that Microsoft had to make their OS free for certain sized devices. What's to stop Microsoft from changing that back in the future again.
25. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
"Free", at the end of the day, my tablet does more work than my comparable android tablet. Android sells more, because well I can get one with my bubble gum out the door at walgreens, that doesn't make it awesome. I remember the return rush on the polaroid android tablets. Lets not forget the carrier give aways etc.
Sales do not always mean the better product. Isnt that what Linux has been ragging on about windows for how long now?
13. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1471; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)
If I get it, the first thing I'd do is to replace SD810 with E8890 or SD820
19. Techist (Posts: 225; Member since: 27 Jan 2015)
Which could probably be easily done since everything is swap-able. I think it would be great if I could customize many specifications of the tablet to my liking. Don't know if it will be commercially viable, though.
17. catze86 (Posts: 516; Member since: 07 Dec 2015)
I wonder if those bricks are durable. I realy want to throw one of those bricks in my ex-GF head... hmmm
22. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10642; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Still looks gimmicky. I'm not convinced at all on the modular concept.
26. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
For me the problem becomes...at what point is swapping parts no longer worth it. Is it the same price to simply buy a new device every two years? Will that 41MP camera add on be 300 bucks? or 40?