In 2019, OnePlus truly earned the nickname “Flagship Killer”

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In 2019, OnePlus truly earned the nickname “Flagship Killer”
Anyone who is remotely interested in smartphones has heard about OnePlus by now. The company popped up just 6 years ago, but has consistently made waves throughout the marketplace since. In the early days, OnePlus relied on guerilla marketing tactics, aiming to make posts and statements that would hit the coveted viral status. Back then, it used the term “flagship killer” to describe its phones.

And while the early OnePlus phones were definitely interesting devices that were worthy of the attention they were getting, flagship killers they were not. It’s funny — the company hasn’t used the popular slogan for about four years now, yet the OnePlus 7 Pro is probably the first OnePlus phone to truly deserve that title. “How come?”, you may ask. Well, let’s dive through the history of OnePlus phones and see how they evolved through time:

OnePlus One: part bargain, part meh

The OnePlus One certainly drew a lot of attention through various viral posts, contests, and promises made by the company. OnePlus swore up and down that the One will be better than whatever flagship you have in your hands now, and that you should be impatient to switch. It even ran a contest that required entrants to totally destroy their own smartphone in order to win a OnePlus One device upon launch.

That resulted in a funny controversy of its own, since some people have a hard time reading rules — entrants were supposed to wait to win the raffle first, destroy the phone second, then wait for their guaranteed prize. Instead, eager fans started smashing their Galaxies on video before ever receiving confirmation that they will be getting a OnePlus One. Fun times!

But hey, there’s no such thing as bad publicity — for good or bad, OnePlus was present in the news cycle on a weekly basis. And so, the OnePlus One launched to an impatient audience and sold pretty well.

Why was the OnePlus One considered to be such an awesome phone? Well, it started at $300 at a time when regular flagships used to sell for about $600 - $650. Yet it still had the same powerful hardware as the mainstream top-tier phones — a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor, 3 GB of RAM, a 5.5-inch display, and a 3,100 mAh battery (that was huge in 2014).

The hype was amplified by the fact that you couldn’t just go to the website and buy one of these babies. No, no… OnePlus would only let you buy the OnePlus One if you had an invite to do so. Invites were sent off in batches to random forum members or email subscribers. Also, anyone who bought a OnePlus One would receive an invite to give to their buddy. Scarcity and exclusivity are powerful tools to increase desirability.

In reality, the OnePlus One had its faults. It was a very ambitious device, there is no denying that, and it’s still insane to think that a $300 phone had a Snapdragon 801 in it. However, the display was less than stellar and a lot of faulty devices with yellow stripes on the screen started popping up online. To top it off, the OnePlus One’s camera was OK at best, even by 2014 standards.

In other words: yes, it was a bargain of a phone but by no means a flagship replacement.

OnePlus 2: a hot disappointment

For its next phone, the company kept on dropping bombastic statements. At some point, the OnePlus 2 was called “the 2016 flagship killer”. No, that’s not a typo — the OnePlus 2 was set to launch in 2015, yet the company claimed it’d be ahead of its time.

Yeah… it wasn’t. In fact, the OnePlus 2 was mostly a disappointment. It came with the same design and plastic build as its predecessor, it didn’t do much to upgrade the camera, and it was plagued by throttling / overheating issues, courtesy of the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810. The latter wasn’t OnePlus’ fault, really — the Snapdragon 810 is a black spot in Qualcomm’s history and any phone that used the 2015 processor suffered as a result. Despite different manufacturers trying to downplay it, the truth was evident with each new smartphone that was released that year. It was so bad that Samsung chose to use its own Exynos processor in all Galaxy S6 models (Traditionally, Samsung puts Qualcomm processors in the phones it sells in the US. It does so to this day, but it skipped the Snapdragon 810 in 2015… wonder why?).

So, in general, the OnePlus 2 was a meek upgrade that didn’t enjoy the positive reception of its predecessor. Its starting price was bumped by a $30, too, making people wince at the possible trend of OnePlus increasing its prices every year (spoiler: yes, it did).

OnePlus 3: things are looking up

The company knew it swung and missed with the OnePlus 2. Back then, the brand had attracted hardcore smartphone fans, and you don’t impress that crowd by regurgitating the same design with minimum improvements over last year’s hardware. The company took note of that and made sure that the OnePlus 3 would be something exceptional.

And yes, it was a pretty good phone. The first OnePlus handset built out of metal and the first one to have a good camera — one that was capable of going toe-to-toe with mainstream flagship competitors. It also introduced Dash Charge — the company's own take on quick charging, which does things a bit differently and is supposedly faster at topping up the battery while being the safer way to go about it.

The design was a bit hit and miss — it appeared to be a mixture of inspirations from previous Samsung and HTC phones. Nothing blatant, but fans were quick to pick up on the lack of identity.

The marketing for the device was also humbler — no more bombastic statements, no “flagship killer” slogans, no ridiculous competitions or raffles. OnePlus and its co-founders still liked to tweet about how great it is, but nothing cringe-worthy.

While it was still a bargain, the OnePlus 3 took a definite price bump up to $400. That wasn’t unnoticed, but it was easily forgiven seeing how much of a positive upgrade it was, compared to the predecessors, and it was still much cheaper than the competition.

OnePlus 3T: an extra cherry on top

About half a year after the OnePlus 3 was launched, the company surprised us with a OnePlus 3T. Basically, a slightly upgraded version of the former phone, the 3T was nearly identical on the outside. The processor was replaced with a slightly boosted version, the selfie camera’s resolution was bumped up, the battery got just a bit beefier, and the starting storage tier went up to 128 GB, which was quite generous by 2015 standards.

Basically, it wasn’t meant as an upgrade for OnePlus 3 owners, but for those that had one of the older models. It also came with that little extra to finally draw in some of the more reluctant customers — those who kind of liked the vanilla OnePlus 3, but needed “a little bit more”, so they were in no hurry to buy.

The 3T was a success and OnePlus felt confident enough to re-launch it in a couple of limited edition variants — the Midnight Black edition and Colette edition. It also marked the beginning of a tradition. From then on, OnePlus has been on a 6-month refresh cycle for its flagship phones. We get one “main” version in the first half of the year, and we get a refined edition of the same phone in the second half.

OnePlus 5: skip the 4 for good luck

The OnePlus 5 was the basis for the OnePlus design language that we know and love today. It moved completely away from the Frankenstein appearance of the OnePlus 3 and came in a thin, light, and super ergonomic shape. The OnePlus 5 form factor is a favorite of many fans just because it’s so pleasant to hold and it’s definitely very easy on the eyes as well.

It was the year of dual cameras — Apple had just made the telephoto camera and Portrait Mode popular. So, the OnePlus 5 also needed to have one, right? Well, it did, but it was a bit of a disappointment.

For one, in order to make the new camera module fit in the thin body, OnePlus had to do away with the OIS module (optical image stabilization) that it had in the OnePlus 3. OIS helps steady shaky shots and it makes it much easier to take non-blurry photos in dark conditions, so its absence was immediately apparent.

Secondly, OnePlus wanted us to believe that the telephoto lens is capable of zooming in at 2x — the Portrait shots were done at 2x and tapping the zoom button automatically switched to 2x, just like other phones on the market were doing. OnePlus’ dirty little secret was that its telephoto camera was only capable of zooming in 1.6 times — anything beyond that was digital zoom.

In other words, the OnePlus 5 had a great design and hardware that made people happy, but its camera was lacking and felt like a downgrade compared to the OnePlus 3. It also came out with a standard 16:9 screen when phones like the LG G6 and Samsung Galaxy S8 had already introduced the extra-wide 18:9 (or more) aspect ratio. Its price jumped to $480, which was inching awfully close to the “mainstream flagship” price, which was about $700 - $800 at the time. It was still much cheaper, but it felt more like a properly priced upper-midranger than a “flagship killer”.

OnePlus 5T: the hotfix

And just like the year before, OnePlus was quick to release an upgraded version of its latest flagship, just 6 months apart. The OnePlus 5T came in the same great, thin, grippy, and light body, but it introduced the 18:9 aspect ratio, essentially making it an instant classic in the eyes of some. It also did away with the telephoto lens — instead, the secondary sensor was now a dedicated low-light camera, with bigger pixels meant to collect more light.

The overall quality of the camera was still not on par with the competition and the night camera was not nearly as good as we were hoping it would be. To top it off, the new 18:9 aspect ratio meant that OnePlus had to move the fingerprint scanner to the back of the phone, in order to keep its chin thin. Logical move, yes, but some fans of front-mounted scanners were disappointed.

Again, there was a slight price increase, as the OnePlus 5T asked for a starting price of $500. Eyebrows were raised, but the phone still had its fair share of fans.

OnePlus 6: this isn’t even my final form

The OnePlus 6 really ruffled some feathers. For one, it was the first OnePlus phone to have a glass back, but it didn’t have wireless charging. See, a lot of users are annoyed by their glass phones being finger grease magnets. It’s pretty to look at, but not after you’ve touched it once. Some are able to live with it because it provides the benefit of having wireless charging. Well, the OnePlus didn’t… so that wasn’t really a favorite thing of the community.

Then, there was also the adoption of a notch-style cutout for the display. Since the OnePlus 6’s screen went nearly edge-to-edge, the company had to put a notch at the top to accomodate for the proximity sensor, selfie camera, and earpiece. Again, that was a controversial move — the Notch has been hated ever since the iPhone X made it popular.

Minor annoyances aside, the OnePlus 6 is easily among the best phones the company has put out there. Its camera was a major upgrade over the OnePlus 5 and 5t, with great detail and color reproduction. Its OLED screen was fantastic in terms of detail and color reproduction. Its performance was stellar as ever and its price was still a bargain — it started at $530 and was worth every penny compared to its competitors, who were now comfortably taking up the $800-tier space.

OnePlus 6T: I can be a leader

The OnePlus 6T focused on dealing with a couple of painpoints that the fans had been having since the 5T. For one, it had the fingerprint scanner back on the front of the device. “Where?”, you ask? It was under the display — the OnePlus 6T was the first major smartphone available in Western markets to have an in-screen fingerprint scanner, which was quite an impressive feat for the small company. It beat tech giants like Samsung to the punch and had an exclusive feature to market itself with over the next few months.

Its notch was also considerably smaller — now a “waterdrop” shape only big enough for a selfie camera. This version, although not ideal, is considerably more favorable in the eyes of the community.

So, the OnePlus 6T was a pretty stellar phone. It did away with some minor grievances, it introduced under-the-display fingerprint scanning to the masses, and it had an awesome-looking limited edition Thunder Purple gradient finish to keep up with recent trends. Oh, it also landed in T-Mobile's retail stores for the US crowd to enjoy and buy on contract!

On the downside, it did away with the headphone jack. Yeah, that’s sort of how it goes nowadays in the industry, but OnePlus didn’t do itself many favors as it kept boasting about its phones having a headphone jack every year since 2016. Needless to say, some powerfans were peeved.


OnePlus 7 Pro: the actual flagship killer

And that leads us to the OnePlus phone of today — the OnePlus 7 Pro. Ironically, probably the first OnePlus device to absolutely deserve the title of “Flagship Killer”.

Keeping up with the momentum of the OnePlus 6T, the company kept introducing niche features to their mass market model — the OnePlus 7T has a full edge-to-edge display with no notch whatsoever. That’s achieved thanks to a mechanical pop-out camera — a cool gizmo, which is mostly present on obscure Chinese phones or upper midrangers like the Samsung Galaxy A80.

To top it off, the AMOLED screen has a 90 Hz refresh rate, which makes animations look buttery smooth. Again, a small thing and not a game-changer on its own. But it’s still an impressive feat — the only other phones to support high refresh rates are the gaming handsets from Razer and Asus ROG.

The camera has gotten a significant upgrade now. Keeping up with the trends, OnePlus has put a triple module on the back — a regular wide-angle lens, an ultra-wide-angle lens, and a telephoto lens. The latter one washes away the shame of the OnePlus 5 — the telephoto camera of the OnePlus 7T gives us 3x optical zoom, which makes for some fantastic portraits.

There's also a "minor" upgrade with the vibration motor — for the first time ever, we have a OnePlus phone with a very accurate, clicky, and powerful vibration. Some will say this is a small detail to care about, but some of us do. A proper "click" or a good vibration will change the overall feel of the phone and add to the premium experience in your day-to-day usage.

All in all, it’s an awesome all-around device, which barely has any downsides compared to other flagships on the market. And here is the kicker — it starts at $670. Yes, that is a far cry from the $300 of the original OnePlus One, but let’s put it in the perspective of today’s marketplace.

The Galaxy S10+ starts at $999. The Galaxy Note 10+ and iPhone XS Max start at $1099. The Google Pixel 3 XL currently costs $600 but was $900 on release. We are pretty sure that the upcoming Pixel 4 XL will not fall below that starting price. What do these phones offer that OnePlus doesn’t?

Well, they do have their own ecosystems and services, either built by the same companies or secured through partnerships. In order to justify the higher costs, these manufacturers do go out of their way to offer you some extra features and that's cool.

But at its core, the OnePlus 7 Pro is an exceptional phone with no corners cut and no drawbacks to speak of. If you are just looking for a good smartphone, this one is a very logical choice in 2019. It doesn't feel like a compromise, it doesn't feel like a phone to "tie you over" until you can get a "better" one — it is up there with the "better ones". And that makes it a “Flagship Killer”. And hey — a lot of users agree. Check out this poll we ran last week:

OnePlus 7 Pro or the Galaxy Note 10+?

OnePlus 7 Pro
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7 Pro
  • Display 6.7" 1440 x 3120 pixels
  • Camera 48 MP / 16 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 855, Octa-core, 2840 MHz
  • Storage 128 GB
  • Battery 4000 mAh(34h talk time)



1. maherk

Posts: 7010; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

If it wasn't for the size, and mostly the weight, I would have had this in my pocket right now. I hope they release a smaller version of it.

3. ing0ram

Posts: 22; Member since: Jan 15, 2019

I disagree. I'd say that every Oneplus phone apart from 7 pro has been flagship killer, because it had some flagship features, but compromised on some others, but the 7 pro isn't flagship killer, it IS a flagship

4. notfair

Posts: 765; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

by catching up on the bandwagon 1000$ price?

19. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

OP7 is still available and is launched at a cheaper price as compared to OP6T, OP6 and even OP5T. OP7 is available in India for $470 FYI. And then there is card cashback offer on the top of that. Better vibration motor, better camera, SD855, UFS 3.0, stereo speakers, latest and fastest in display scanner. And all this available at a cheaper price than predecessors. Only country to have not got OP7 is USA. As for OP7 Pro, it offers stuff many other phones don't. A curved QHD+ 90Hz AMOLED panel costs money, so does UFS 3.0 storage, popup mechanism for distraction free screen, fastest in display fingerprint scanner and probably the best vibration motor in Android aside of Pixels. A camera that goes toe to toe with flagships and so much more. Yet significantly cheaper. When OnePlus gets close to $1000, others would have reached $1500

48. legar123

Posts: 63; Member since: Mar 26, 2019

Yup. Why not? It has all the features S10 has

5. afrohoxha

Posts: 264; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

" What do these phones offer that OnePlus doesn’t?" ....Well lot of hardware and software features to begin with. Better customer support. Also Samsung offers many trade in-s and gifts when purchasing a new flagship. Maybe not as a $300 increase in price for most people but asking that question is kinda silly. If you make the higher refresh rate standout for oneplus, you should be fair with the other phones too.

7. Feanor

Posts: 1417; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

It's not just the refresh rate; it also has a cleaner Android version than most and faster updates than most. Really the only disadvantages are the huge size for some, the lack of wireless charging and the lack of waterproofing (though unofficially the phone survived some underwater tests). So, it is really one of the two-three best phones of 2019. I was really going for it but I am indeed put off by its size and the fact that I use the wireless charging of my phone everyday. I also wash my phone with soap often.

14. afrohoxha

Posts: 264; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Android flavor is a personal preference. Some people want a dumb down os, some others a feature-full one. This doesn't make one cleaner over the other.

20. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Looks like you haven't ever even tried OxygenOS and yet are judging it. - Themes, System Wide Accent Colours - Inbuilt launcher customisations(icon packs etc etc) - Dozens of Gesture support (while screen on or off) - Dedicated Gaming Mode - Pocket mode - Scheduled Power On/Off - Zen Mode - Font support - Inbuilt App lock with fingerprint/password - Privacy Mode - Dual App support - Dedicated AMOLED theme since OP3 days(2016) - Alert Slider - Status Bar customisations - 3 type of navigation options(Pie one, full screen gestures, full back, multitasking, home one) - Screen calibration customisation - Ambient Display, Proximity wake - Dedicated Extra battery saver features over stock Android I can go on listing and listing and it won't end. OxygenOS has everything that your bloated Samsung UI has and OnePlus does it without making its UI suck. Average ROM size of OnePlus phones is 1.5 - 2 GB while in Samsung it's 4.5 - 5 GB. Ever wondered what that extra size is of? Bloat, Bloat, Bloat! And OxygenOS doesn't come loaded with extra unnecessary apps. And even the stock ones can be uninstalled (like File Manger, Gallery etc) To top that, OnePlus provides 2 years of Android full version updates and 3 years of Security patches. OnePlus 7 Pro, 7, 6T, 6 are already on Android Q developer preview and all will be updated to latest version Android 10(Q) within 1-2 month of it's rollout.

27. MsPooks

Posts: 234; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

But you just listed a bunch of features that Samsung and others also have. For even lower prices. Oneplus got Oneplussed by the Pixel 3a, for Pete's sake. Sure, it's a great phone, but it's not the phone-to-rule-them-all.

36. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Really? Pixel 3a? Except USA no one is even buying them at all! Not to mention, puny battery, poor low - mid range processor, small and inferior display, plastic body, just 64gb memory with no expansion, huge archaic bezels, inferior ram and storage(both in capacity and speed), camera no better than OP7 series, basically it's a LOOT. It's just that a big chunk of US people have really limited knowledge of anything other than Apple, Samsung and Google. And you are just displaying that here. And for features, which Samsung phone has better specs than OP7 or even OP7 Pro for a lower price? And you 3a has absolutely nothing.

35. Rocket

Posts: 703; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Themes? Can you direct me to where the themes are located bcs i can't find them on my op6?

6. Fred3

Posts: 582; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

With that price Oneplus is now a flagship so i the term "flagship killer" should be irrelevant to them. Poco phone could be one though.

21. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Poco phone? Really? That phone with cheap plastic body, bloated MIUI with scam filled Ads, defective and poor quality screen(Xiaomi recalled many units), ugly huge notch, non existent software support, is a Flagship Killer?

28. MsPooks

Posts: 234; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

Sounds like the first iterations of Oneplus phones. :o

37. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

This ain't 2014 :o

44. Vancetastic

Posts: 1752; Member since: May 17, 2017

I think we've got us a OnePlus fanboy here.....

8. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1276; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

OP7pro has wireless charging as well?

10. User123456789

Posts: 1141; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

It does not have it

9. User123456789

Posts: 1141; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

From OP1 to 6T they were midranges with SD8xx, just that. Now that they started to give more stuff, price went up. Increasing amount of RAM and ROM should not be priority of any brand .

11. dnomadic

Posts: 441; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

Not for me... Got rid of mine. The maturity of the software and design from Samsung are well beyond OnePlus. OnePlus to me(opinion) is hardware and software without the care. It kills flagships from some brands but it is not in the same league with Samsung. I made a list to get started but I'm not going to repost here, but if you have used both the software gap is astounding.

22. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Don't worry, i made that list for you. And it took 5 minute of effort to bust your software maturity lie Looks like you haven't ever even tried OxygenOS and yet are judging it. - Themes, System Wide Accent Colours - Inbuilt launcher customisations(icon packs etc etc) - Dozens of Gesture support (while screen on or off) - Dedicated Gaming Mode - Pocket mode - Scheduled Power On/Off - Zen Mode - Font support - Inbuilt App lock with fingerprint/password - Privacy Mode - Dual App support - Dedicated AMOLED theme since OP3 days(2016) - Alert Slider - Status Bar customisations - 3 type of navigation options(Pie one, full screen gestures, full back, multitasking, home one) - Screen calibration customisation - Ambient Display, Proximity wake - Dedicated Extra battery saver features over stock Android I can go on listing and listing and it won't end. OxygenOS has everything that your bloated Samsung UI has and OnePlus does it without making its UI suck. Average ROM size of OnePlus phones is 1.5 - 2 GB while in Samsung it's 4.5 - 5 GB. Ever wondered what that extra size is of? Bloat, Bloat, Bloat! And OxygenOS doesn't come loaded with extra unnecessary apps. And even the stock ones can be uninstalled (like File Manger, Gallery etc) To top that, OnePlus provides 2 years of Android full version updates and 3 years of Security patches. OnePlus 7 Pro, 7, 6T, 6 are already on Android Q developer preview and all will be updated to latest version Android 10(Q) within 1-2 month of it's rollout.

33. dnomadic

Posts: 441; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

I can also list a BUNCH of things it does NOT have and demonstrate its software immaturity. Oneplus is mostly hardware with Android plugged-in, the light features you mentioned do not speak to a mature software in so far as user experience (And Samsung does this stuff) 1. Camera software 2. Samsung Pay is just better 3. Better display; brighter and more accurate (the 90hertz didn't do much for me. 120 a REAL difference would be noticed) 4. better overall build (care in the build and how it feels in the hand, not just metal and glass, there is actual care in the design. 4. Change UI Grid sizes 5 better sorting in App drawer (alphabetical or however you want it) 6. Folders in App Drawer 7. Ability to move multiple applications at one time (huge convenience feature, especially when you like to tinker with your phones look) 8. Wireless Charging 9. More efficient charging 10. more security feature (heard of Knox) 11. secure folders 12. work and play modes 13. SD card support 14. and on and on..... I could also throw in everything that you have said which are just basic features that EVERY Samsung has. Not a knock on OnePLus, In so far as pre-loaded apps, as I am an Android dude, choice is great and I delete what I don't want (welcome to the world of unlocked phones). And to the last point, which may matter to some --- I switch phones 3-4 times annually between, Notes, S Devices, Pixels, Iphones and I have even used One PLus (among others), not two concerned with 3 years of support (good thing though). It is easy to support when it basically stock Android.

34. dnomadic

Posts: 441; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

BTW while I do have a Samsung phone right now, it is because I hated the feel of the OnePlus, I would much prefer the One Plus 7 opposed to the Pro. And beginning tomorrow I will Likely go back to iphone since I got the stupid Apple Card and want to try it out (yeah I want to try out a Card, that can foolishly ONLY be paid through the FREAKING phone (the Apple Trap 2019)

38. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

1. OnePlus camera software is no lesser. Infact OP7 Pro captures better low light shots than Note 10+ (check GSMARENA review of Note 10+) 2. Nobody specifically needs Samsung Pay outside US. Most countries have nationwide support for NFC terminals or QR based payments. 3. OP7 Pro has better display. The very fact that famous Youtubers like MKBHD called out how they felt like going backwards from OP7 pro to Note 10 display shows what the reality is. As for just QUALITY, DisplayMate gave top scores to OP 7 Pro also. 4. If anything, OP7 Pro feels better in hand because it's more curvier as opposed to sharp Note 10 5. You can change UI grid sizes in OnePlus too. 6. Coming in next launcher update. 9. More efficient charging? Do you even know anything about charging then? Go and look up the tech OnePlus and Oppo use. Their phones heat up the least even while fast charging and can charge at the same rate even when being used as opposed to likes of Samsung which throttle the charging speed in such case. 11. Available here too. 13. Even Samsung is taking away expandable memory slowly and slowly - Again, you are just straight out lying when you say you have used owned OnePlus. If you did, you would know all this stuff. And neither is OxygenOS stock Android. JUST use it to know it. Stock Android does not have all the software features i detailed above. You just want to debate but don't have the facts to back it up.

12. oldskool50 unregistered

The One Plus isn't a flagship killer. OEM's like Apple and Samsung, killed themselves, by pricing phones above $1000 for the same crap we've had for the past 10 years, but just newer versions. Cameras, finger print readers, face unlocks, displays, modems and SoC are all basically doign the same crap, it's just the typical updated hardware cycle we expect from electronics. Where they went wrong was increasing the cost on retail by $400+ in just the past 4 years. No one wants to pay $1000 for a phone, but if you want that phone you don't have a choice, unless you wait for some type of deal or price drop. No matter how expensive an iPhone ot Galaxy S and Note might be, I would rather have one of those vs anythign made by One Plus. Those phones are cheaper for a reason. And sure they may have 1-up the others on some fronts like having a 90/120hz display, which is really pointless. But considering the money both Apple and Samsung have, they shold have it too. Especially Samsung who makes its own display. For the Note 10 not to have it isn't a big deal, but for its price it should have it along with other thing. The One Plus isn't gonna sell more than the iPhine or the Galaxy S, or even the Note for that matter. The One Plus is the pricing winner to get nice hardware. But its certainly not an all around better phone. Its plain, its ugly and that's why its cheap. The One Plus cameras don't do everything as well as whats in top priced devices. Same for charging, same for display quality. Sure everything is good enough, but its not a flagship quality phone based on today's standard. It is a flagship quality phone that is equal to flagships of maybe 3-4 years ago; and there is nothign wrong with that as that is enough for most.

23. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

OnePlus is ugly? Fanboyism here is very strong. No wonder your comment is anything but true.

41. oldskool50 unregistered

What does what a phone look like have to do with fanboyism? Oh that's right...IT DOESN'T. Did I hurt your little feelings? Yes the OnePlus is ugly, along with older Sony Xperia's, all the Pixel, most of LG phone except for the v30 which i did like, all of Moto's phones are ugly and the only iPhone I think looks good over all other than some aspects of the X was the 5S. Samsung had ugly phones too, especially the first galaxy S, and anything before the S6 and the Note 3. The Note 4 and 5 were also ugly. Ugly is a preference thing bruh. Because you think otherwise doesn't make me wrong. Even though I did own the first Samsung/Google phone, it was ugly. I also had ugly phones by blackberry liek the Storm. Even though I loved the Storm, it was ugly. So was my Samsung Charge, and several Windows Phone I also owned. Am I still a fanboy? I've own more phones in my lifetime then you've owned in your entire life, which I am positive you are at least roughly 1/2 my age. Ugly is personal perception bruh. has zero to do with fanboyism. See that's how I know you're a fanboy, because ANYONE who has any issue with someone saying something they don't like about something so petty is nothing but. Just because I may like Samsung phones, doesn't mean they've never made ugly ones. because they have. All the S models were"ugly" vs anything since the S6. But they looked damn better than many phones on the market that were much uglier. I've had phones by Palm, HTC, Moto, Dell, HP, Blackberry, Samsung, Apple, Sony, Nokia, LG and some crappy no-name models. And they all make or made ugly phones. Get over it bruh! If you think the OnePlus looks great then great. I don't have a problem with that. Neither should you. It's called independent thinking. Something fanboys can't ever do.

13. tedkord

Posts: 17463; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

With the trade in offers Samsung had at each launch the past several years, I only paid $600-700 dollars for each new Note. Might have been a little bit more for the Note 9 because I got the $1200 MSRP model with 512gb storage d 8gb ram. I don't remember, but I got like $500 for the Note 8. It's a shame, because I really despise the Note 10 line, I'm going to lose that trade in value as I hold off another year.

15. superguy

Posts: 469; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

I may be in the minority here, but I don't like the OP7 Pro. I had an OP6 and loved it, aside from the notch. The 7 Pro was a stretch too far, and I find the phone half-baked. I have a lot of software issues, from random crashes (both app and the phone) to performance slowing down for no apparent reason. On the hardware front, I have a lot of problems with the screen registering phantom taps. It seems to get bad when I'm in a call. Next thing I know some weird app is launching or my phone goes into airplane mode. The curved screen registers accidental taps when I'm in apps, often forcing me to other screens. Swyping with the curves is problematic at the edges with letters Q and P in particular. When I was using an S8 in the interim, I didn't have any of these problems with the curved screen. This is something with OP's implementation. If I still had my OP6, I'd have gone back to it a long time ago. I'm hanging on to this to see what happens with the 7T/Pro.

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