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Rumored Sony Honami mini won't downsize the specs

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Rumored Sony Honami mini won't downsize the specs
The latest trend with handset manufacturers is to make a"mini" version of their flagship phone. Samsung, HTC and even Motorola has done this. Now, there is speculation that Japanese based OEM Sony will do the same with its upcoming new flagship model. The Sony i1 Honami is expected to be the first of Sony's new camera-centric phones and is scheduled to be introduced September 4th in Berlin. Even though the full-sized phone has not even been introduced by Sony, already specs for the Honami mini have leaked. If true, Sony is going to be the first to truly keep flagship type specs in a mini version of their flagship phone.

According to a tipster on the Esato.com forums with a great track record, the Sony Honami mini will pack a 4.3 inch Triluminos display with resolution of 720 x 1280 (Ok, so its not perfectly the same), with a 2.2GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 under the hood, 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage. A microSD slot will be available and a 2400mAh battery will be keeping the lights on. But the most important news is that the 20.7MP camera won't be touched with at all. The same Sony G lens, f/2.0 aperture and the same 1/2.3″ sensor will be on the Honami mini. So to recap, the only changes to the full-sized version of the phone is with the screen (from 5 inch 1080 x 1920 to 4.3 inch 720 x 1280), and the battery (from 3050mAh to 2400mAh).

The Sony Honami mini has a code name of Ray3. Despite all of this information, we caution you to take this with the proverbial grain of salt. After all, we are still days away from the unveiling of the full-sized model.

source: EsatoForum via gforgames

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posted on 18 Aug 2013, 13:53 10

1. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


If this is true, Sony will just call it Xperia _____ instead of Xperia _____ Mini. Seems like the best phone in the 4"-4.5" department.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 15:37 3

21. Dunexus (Posts: 6; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


If it's true, it will be mine !!

A just want a not-too-big (4"-4,5") high end device, this will be the only one to fight with the iPhone !

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 21:41 3

50. skyline88 (Posts: 469; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)


that iphone is already DBF (dead before fight)

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 17:51 3

37. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1484; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Ya its a great news
not all flagship phone should carry 5"inch+ screen size many prefer lower size because they have small hands

Not everyone chooses same sized UnderWear, some prefer lower size and some prefer higher size because each have bigger and smaller a** respectively....

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 23:18 2

55. vincelongman (Posts: 4570; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I was very disappointed when I saw the rumor that the Honami is going is going to be bigger than the Xperia Z. I was hoping that it would be about the size as the Xperia ZL (the perfect size in my opinion).
But this Honami Mini with mostly the same specs is very very good news, I will defiantly consider this phone, even if its small than I like, its better than a phone that's too big (in my opinion).

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 13:54 36

2. luigi0824 (Posts: 48; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


it should be Honamini

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 13:57 11

3. AK4TAY7BEN (Posts: 6; Member since: 01 Aug 2013)


Hopefully the bezel downsizes as well... sounds interesting though

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:52 4

11. mafflambo (Posts: 18; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


that was also my first thought.. minimum bezel and touch buttons
can't wait to see it :))

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:56 2

16. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


If Ray 3 also dust and waterproof I doubt this phone will have bezelless body, I think the maximum size of Ray 3 would like Xperia V.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 13:59 1

4. boosook (Posts: 1437; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


This would sell like hot cake, but unfortunately I think it's a dream that will never come true.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 13:59 5

5. Saafa (Posts: 37; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)


Yeeaaaaaaaaaaay!
finally a mini monster!!:D
I love it!

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:07 6

6. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


MY DREAM PHONE MAY BE HERE!!! YES! Thank you Sony :)

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:09 6

7. amats69 (Posts: 1466; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


If this is true..then it is a clear win for sony! Bring it on sony!Please! :)

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:20

8. pelop (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


the "ray 3" has been announced back in april on the xda-developers forums

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235743

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:29 4

9. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


Rumors about Ray 3 has been circulating for a long time in esato forum, Ray 3 not just going to be the best Mini phones, but also the best Iphone 5S competitor.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:47 9

10. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


If this comes to pass... This will be my next phone. It's a 4.3" display so 720p is perfectly fine (for me) and that S800 + Adreno 330 with should push that little sucker into a speed demon, all while sipping the smallest amount of battery juice.

2GB RAM, SD card slot, & the Honami's 20.7MP camera?! Icing on the cake, followed by ice cream, followed by chocolate syrup and whipped cream.

The Honami Mini sounds like my perfect phone. Pardon me while I take some tissues to the bathroom.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:53 2

12. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


This does sound like the Android I have been waiting for. I loved the One S because of its size, build quality, and speed, and this sounds like it will be in the same strata (Best performer) in relation to its super-sized brethren. I worry that Sony will screw up distribution, like they have with recent phones, but hopefully they are learning the lesson that mass distribution leads to mass adoption.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:53

13. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


This is slap for those existing mini of other oem, good job Sony !!! This is what we're waiting for!!! In a compact size, like what they did in Xperia zl.
A 32 gig w/o sd slot in xchange of removable battery is better!!!

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:56 5

14. Feanor (Posts: 730; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


It only seems that Sony is dead serious about coming back. If this phone comes to be true with these specs, then it will indeed be the only device to deserve the name 'Flagship mini'. The HTC One Mini and particularly the Samsung GS4 Mini are just marketing terms. The have the same specs as mid-rangers but instead of being called Galaxy Ace or HTC Desire or whatever else, they are just called 'Flagship Mini' for marketing purposes.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 14:56 3

15. papss (unregistered)


Now this could be a huge deal. I hope they do this. I often wondered why some of the top specs didn't come to a small chassis.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 15:02 1

17. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Hey Sony
Just dont disappoint all of those who are patiently waiting for such a beast.
RAY3 lovers are waiting...

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 15:13

18. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)


We're hoping it is true, and will distributed to four major US carrier. It is time for Sony to beat them all in small and mid sizes flagship phones.
I admit that Samsung is still my favorite handset because of it's removable batt, but size sometimes matter, and the majority consumer's were looking a compact high end phone.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 15:17 1

19. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


If they don't underclock the s**t out of the s800 Sony is doing it wrong. Sure this is good for spec heads but terrible for your PR and marketing department when your mini version crushes your flagship in everything except maybe screen fidelity.

Keeping the same CPU is fine but you have to scale down the clockspeed along with the screen and battery. Just try and do it discretely like Apple does with the A6x vs A6. In reality the A6X destroys the s**t out of the A6 but Apple gets a pass because it is still an A6 on the iphone albeit a severely neutered one.

Sorry fanboys, an S800 clocked at 2.3 ghz is just going to waste battery on a 720p screen and make your Honami flagship seem slow in comparison. Sony better not do this because the only people this will appease is Phonearena fanboys. Everyone else would be fine with a underclocked Qualcomm 600 or even an S4 pro.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 15:30 2

20. wrm2013 (Posts: 203; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


Finally a company with a brain. (mini doesnt mean kill the specs)

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 16:11 1

24. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Seems that a lot of you are clueless about this. Mini does mean kill the specs. A good way of looking at specs for the mini devices is this. Roy Jones Junior doesn't need to weight as much, or be as tall, or have as long of a reach as say Lennox Lewis to dominate his weight class. Yes his specs are way s**ttier than Lennox Lewis but relative to his size and weight class, he is just as much of a flagship boxer if not more so.

Same thing with the iphone 5.

Less than 720p
1.2ghz dual core
1gb of ram
1400 mah battery

and people have no problems calling it a flagship yet they somehow expect smaller Android phones to have the same specs as the 1080p beasts that actually need that power and that huge battery to run well? What kind of retarded logic is that?

5/10 is the same as 1/2. Exactly the same despite the former having much higher numbers. In my opinion, all the mini flagships except for the screen have scaled perfectly fine and anything more is just going to a) make the real 1080p flagship look slow and who wants that or b) be a total waste of the already shrunken battery and overkill.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 16:56

29. Feanor (Posts: 730; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


Sorry dude but your argument is not entirely correct. I wouldn't mind the downscaling of specs if it didn't affect the overall experience. But both Samsung and HTC have downscaled the specs in a way that puts their respective Minis square in the middle segment. E.g., I wouldn't mind if the Galaxy S4 Mini did away with the FHD screen if they kept at least an HD resolution above 300ppi. But qHD or whatever it is, is a massive downgrade which doesn't deserve the Galaxy S4 moniker. Similarly the HTC One Mini ought to keep the signature OIS camera module. And so forth. There is a stage in downgrading where you end up a mid-ranger rather than a downsized flagship.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 17:04 1

31. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Those mini versions might have missed the mark slightly, HTC One Mini is mainly size because no one actually gives a crap about IOS despite what the Nokia fans say. But that doesn't matter really.

The main thing is that the battery life is going lick if they do not scale down that CPU a bit. The battery is much smaller and the screen will use less power but it won't use that much less power. And this thing is going to outperform the 1080p Honami in everything except screen quality and battery life. Not a message I think Sony should send where the mini version beats the crap out of the flagship version in benchmarks and performance.

They should use the S600 or an underclocked S800 period.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 17:09

33. Feanor (Posts: 730; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


To this I can agree. As I said, the overall experience matters, a slightly downgraded processor would probably be just fine to move around the reduced amount of pixels. But an HD resolution, a non-downgraded camera and same design and materials should remain.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 18:25 1

40. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


That's why I think Motorola really nailed down the "mini" segment of the market with the Droid mini. Same exact specs as the Ultra and Maxx, just with a smaller display (of a different technology) and smaller battery. Same resolution display, same SoC, same amount of RAM, and same camera. In a way, the Droid mini is actually better than the Ultra and Maxx because of the higher density display.

Anyways, more on topic, the Snapdragon 800 will completely drain the battery on the Honami mini. Though frame rates will go through the roof with the Adreno 330 pushing a 720p display, it's not worth the hit to battery life. Either under clock the hell out of the S800 or use a S600. Otherwise, it seems to be one of the better devices in the "mini" category.

posted on 18 Aug 2013, 19:38

44. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


A 1.7ghz sSD600 would be perfect for that mini version in my opinion.

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