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Qualcomm unveils powerful Snapdragon 810 and 808 chipsets, that answer Apple's 64-bit push

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Qualcomm unveils powerful Snapdragon 810 and 808 chipsets, that answer Apple's 64-bit push

Californian chip giant Qualcomm, whose silicon is in most mobile devices these days, just lifted the veil over its next-generation chipsets - the Snapdragon 808 and Snapdragon 810. The dust has hardly settled on the 801, which is in phones like the Galaxy S5 and Xperia Z2, and the 805, which will land in devices in the summer, and we are now learning what our phones and tablets will be capable of in H1 of next year.

First off, the new puppies are 64-bit, so after the low-end Snapdragon 410, 610 and 615, Qualcomm is coming with true flagships that will carry ARM's 64-bit CPU architecture. The 808 and 810 will be released in a big.LITTLE design, combining Cortex-A53 cores, and the more powerful Cortex-A57s. The A57 cores are up to 50%  more powerful than the current-best A15. Since the new 808 and 810 will be built at 20nm, instead of the current 28nm process, they are likely to remain as frugal in terms of power consumption, as are the 801 or 805, for instance.

Now for the juicy part - we'll have new graphics processors in those 64-bit chipsets - Snapdragon 808 will come with Adreno 418, which is 20% faster than Adreno 330, while 810 will be crushing it with Adreno 430, which is 30% faster, but from the GPU in Snapdragon 805, which is Adreno 420. The new 810 silicon supports 4K Ultra HD interface and video resolution, 4K video encoding at 30 frames per second, as well as 1080p video at 120 frames per second. The dual Image Signal Processors (ISPs) are capable of supporting 1.2 GP/s throughput, and image sensors up to the whopping 55 MP.

When we combine that superior productivity with support for DDR4 memory (in 810), Cat 6 LTE-Advanced speed of up to 300 Mbps, and enhanced carrier aggregation, we receive one of the most versatile and powerful mobile SoCs in the industry, which will be very hard for competitors to beat. The silicon powerplay will be sampling to customers later this year, with 810-laden devices arriving in the first half of 2015, which makes the Galaxy S6 a prime candidate for this Snapdragon glory.

Press Release
source: Qualcomm

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posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:42 18

1. Anshulonweb (Posts: 365; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


wow.....can't wait for this to come inside note 4 and xperia z3...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:49 9

5. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


20nm is awesome !!!
But they seem like they are getting slower in GPU department .. Adreno 430 seems like they wont be able to beat even Tegra K1 which is due in 4-5 months

Comparing Gfx benchmark scores of tegra K1 with approx calculation of Adreno GPU

Tegra K1 - 62 FPs compared to

Adreno 330 - 28 FPs
Adreno 420 - 50 % faster than 330 - 42 Fps
Adreno 430 - 30 % faster than 420 - 54.6 FPS

CPU wise they should be fine..

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:53 1

6. tech2 (Posts: 2450; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Adreno 430 - 30% faster than 330 (not 420)

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:59 3

9. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


that's likely a typo by phonearena or qualcomm .. adreno 430 cannot be less powerful than adreno 420.

so Adreno 430 is 30 % faster than Adreno 420 only

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:01

11. jeeta444 (Posts: 135; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)


you please re-read the article,
adreno 420 is 20% faster adreno 330
adreno 430 is 30% faster adreno 420.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:03 1

14. tech2 (Posts: 2450; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Yes. Phonearena's phrasing is very confusing. I had to read the press release to clarify that.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:09

19. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


@jeeta44 Qualcomm says Adreno 420 is 40 % faster than Adreno 330

http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/805

but i included 50 % as they later increase the clock speeds just like they did with Adreno 330

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:01

12. MrPhilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)


You really think Adreno '430' is going to be slower than '420'.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:16

24. jeeta444 (Posts: 135; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)


"Snapdragon 808 will come with Adreno 418, which is 20% faster than Adreno 330, while 810 will be crushing it with Adreno 430, which is 30% faster, but from the GPU in Snapdragon 805, which is Adreno 420. The new 810 silicon supports 4K Ultra HD interface and video resolution."

its clear adreno 430 is 30% faster than adreno 420..
& adreno 418 is 20% faster than adreno 330...
418 & 420 most likely equal in performance.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:29

38. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Ive come from reality over at anandtech:

"Note that the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330, which would make Adreno 430 over 80% faster than the Adreno 330 we have in Snapdragon 800/801 today."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/qualcomms-snapdragon-808810-20nm-highend-64bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 11:09

58. jeeta444 (Posts: 135; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)


80% faster than 330 will be a massive upgrade.....ultimate graphics...!!
while 330 is already a beast itself...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 11:54 2

63. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


nah 80 % is not massive at all ..

in a similar situation

The upgrade from Adreno 225 to Adreno 330 was 367 % ..

they have slowed down a lot ..

i can easily bet Mali and Power Vr will easily be able to beat them up.. considering this chip still has 1 whole year time left to come to market

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:19 1

26. akki20892 (Posts: 3653; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Looks like its for Lumia 1820.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:59

50. shuaibhere (Posts: 1675; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Yeah that is what I was thinking...but why they are releasing all this details now??? To let competitors (say apple) know about what they're going to make??? And let them make better ones...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 10:38

52. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Its only a year ahead at most. Companies like nvidia and Intel are known for making their 3-5 year roadmap public.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 21:06

75. Androiders (Posts: 7; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


Snapdragon 810 has 8-core processor LDDR4 64bit and LTE Cat 6 300Mbps Connection.. than Tegra K1

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:58 6

7. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4417; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Can we all say the Samsung Galaxy Note 4...

Water/Dust proof with the new 5.9 inch 4K Ultra HD screen, Snapdragon 810 64bit with Adreno 430 with 4GB of RAM, & 16 to 20MP OIS camera...

WOW talk about a BEAST of a powerful phone...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:59

8. tech2 (Posts: 2450; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


I doubt it would have 4k screen.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:25

28. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4417; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


It's going to happen. Trust me.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 11:28 2

60. akki20892 (Posts: 3653; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


You better need this for that kind of specs lol

http://static.pepboys.com/images/uploads/batteries/CMS_comm_pic.jpg

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:10 1

20. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3617; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Nah this is probably 2015 stuff. But still +1 for getting me excited for a while.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:11 2

21. AstronautJones (Posts: 272; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Says 810 in 2015.
Note 4 will be too early for that...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:16 2

25. Klamba92 (Posts: 206; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)


he SD 810 won't be out until the first half of 2015 so don't think the note 4 will have that Probably S6 and Note 5. Other than the water proofing and OIS seems useless to have the the QHD screen let alone 4K on the phone and the 4GB Even for graphic Intensive mobile games!

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:40

32. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4417; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


They said that about the Snapdragon 800 series & then the HTC Butterfly had it. So let's be patient & see how this materializes.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 10:43

54. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Even if it means delaying its release until next year, I'd love to see this in the Nexus 6.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 11:54

62. geordie8t1 (unregistered)


I think by 2015 when this chip is out the note 5 will be the device to have this tech in, and would be SD810 64bit, A430, 4gb ram, 6.0" 2k bezel less display with some flexible tech to achieve resistance to dropping, camera will be something like 21mp isocell OIS camera with 2 and 4k recording along with 5mp front facing camera, ip68 certified to a depth of 3m, built in fingerprint reader, along with 64gb storage as standard, along with the new usb 3.1, bluetooth4+ advanced lte dual download boosting tech and so on :-)

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 16:06

74. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 915; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


4K on a phone? Really? 4 times as many pixels as the current Full HD phones, that will mean huge regression on GPU performance. You guys are lunatics even most high end gaming PCs have "only" Full HD displays.

posted on 08 Apr 2014, 01:24

79. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4108; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


I'm seriously surprised they didn't make their own architecture in the 810. I was looking forward of the successor to Krait.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:07 1

17. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3617; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


here comes the Dragon roaring. but i'm a bit disappointed that it is octa core useless sh*t.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:14 3

23. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Me too, they should've develop their own CPU design.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:43 1

33. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


they were very late . Apple released 64 bit too early and they had to throw all their plans out of window and use directly cortex A57/A53 to bring something to market.

1H 2016 - is when we will see qualcomm's own design

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:44 1

47. eq5555 (Posts: 63; Member since: 03 Dec 2013)


where is successor of krait?

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 12:34

64. nctx77 (Posts: 576; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


You mean Note 5. The chip won't be ready until early 2015. S6 is your best bet.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 14:05

69. guest (Posts: 110; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


Yawn. Intel is already 64 bit at 22nm. The coolest one I have seen is called the Teclast x98. $200 for a 9.7" "retina" 64 bit Android tablet running 4.4 powered by Intel shipping in a month.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/04/06/intels-answer-to-apples-ipad-air.aspx

By the time Qualcomm rolls around with this new chip, Intel will be at 14 nm with Broxton.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:44 1

2. tech2 (Posts: 2450; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Any word on the release date ?

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:46 2

35. renz4 (Posts: 270; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


sometime next year

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:44 2

3. jeeta444 (Posts: 135; Member since: 24 Mar 2014)


thatswhy Qualcomm is the leader of mobile chipsets....!!! The Real 64 bit Beast arrived...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:31

39. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Smh...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:48 3

4. nokia12 (Posts: 351; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


20nm is awesome !!!
But they seem like they are getting slower in GPU department .. Adreno 430 seems like they wont be able to beat even Tegra K1 which is due in 4-5 months

Comparing Gfx benchmark scores of tegra K1 with approx calculation of Adreno GPU

Tegra K1 - 62 FPs compared to

Adreno 330 - 28 FPs
Adreno 420 - 50 % faster than 330 - 42 Fps
Adreno 430 - 30 % faster than 420 - 54.6 FPS

CPU wise they should be fine..

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:11 1

22. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


And also power efficiency. 20nm vs 28nm = 20nm>28nm

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:33

40. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Yeah but they will be nearly a year late... We could be seeing 16nm Finfet around the 810's release.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:43

46. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I don't think so, Qualcomm is the first to bring 28nm to ARM CPU and then the other chip makers followed them. Next year Qualcomm is the first to use 20nm, the other chip makers can only follow them, not exceed them.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:48

49. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Qualcomm is more like Intel in ARM world, they're the most popular and the one of the most advanced chip maker in the world.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 10:41

53. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Comparing qualcomm to intel is a bit of an overstatement. And 20nm is due this summer, I doubt qualcomm will be the first. Meanwhile Intel will be on 14nm and arm 16nm will be right around the corner. Qualcomm is not in a very good place right now.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 07:59 1

10. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


This is the first time Qualcomm does not use their own CPU design on their top level chipset.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 10:44

55. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


At least their first in many years. (The S1 was not custom)

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:03 1

13. aayupanday (Posts: 527; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Good Lord !
The best time to buy a Smartphone is now, there's no worth waiting as everytime you're gonna wait for the better, something of higher magnitude pops up from Qualcomm.
But still interested with what the LG G3 brings to the table with the 805.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:05 3

15. power_x (Posts: 243; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


They didn't even release the 805 and they already announced the 810 lol

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:05

16. fireblade (Posts: 714; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)


whoa... intel sucks

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:09 4

18. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


But Intel is preparing to launch 14nm CPU soon, and I wonder how good it is.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:31 1

29. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Not Intel, buddy. But Nvidia.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:43

34. true1984 (Posts: 593; Member since: 23 May 2012)


nvidia is the worst. i honestly cant believe there are people still hyping up the k1. the k1 will never be in phones due to the power consumption issues and their horrible track record of providing driver updates(one x, x+, asus transformer series, ect..). that and the k1 was clocked to 3ghz in some of those benchmark tests

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:35 1

42. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


You are speaking on rumors and leaks, the cold hard facts describe a different story.

Nvidia's k1 Denver chip will be the best and most efficient chip on the market this summer.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 09:47

48. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 554; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


The cold hard fact is Nvidia is getting more unpopular year by year, since the big name like Samsung and HTC has dumped Nvidia.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 10:48

56. grahaman27 (Posts: 349; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Last year that's true. But I didn't know popularity was a metric of quality.

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 14:55

71. true1984 (Posts: 593; Member since: 23 May 2012)


well then how about this, show me one tegra 4 device on android 4.4. thats what i mean by nvidia's bad track record

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 15:00 1

72. true1984 (Posts: 593; Member since: 23 May 2012)


besides the shield of course...

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 15:41 1

73. renz4 (Posts: 270; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


tegra note 7. btw HP also made TN7 called Slate 7 Extreme. among TN7 device from various partner it is the only device that did not called as TN7. now that device still on android 4.2 while other TN7 already updated to 4.4.2. so is that nvidia fault or HP that Slate 7 Extreme still not get 4.4.2 update?

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 22:30

78. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6736; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Who Intel don't make too may mobile chipset i think u mean NVIDIA sucks

posted on 07 Apr 2014, 08:25 2

27. GreekGeek (Posts: 845; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


Aww poor Nvidia and their overhyped SoC's, what now?

They seriously need to consider venturing to another business, No top-tier OEMs would want their overhyped TEGRAs

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