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Oracle says Android activations bring $10 million to Google's pockets each day

Oracle says Android activations bring $10 million to Google's pockets each day

Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 08:41, by Victor H.

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Oracle says Android activations bring $10 million to Google's pockets each day

Oracle’s lawsuit against Google is not getting any good news recently - after one of its patents was found invalid, recently the trial date and structured got approved much closer to Google’s ideas about how they should be rather than Oracle’s. In an effort to make its case, Oracle has brought some interesting calculations about the revenues Google gets for each day of Android activations:

"Each day's worth of activations likely generates approximately $10 million in annual mobile advertising revenue for Google."

It should be noted that the $10 million Oracle arrives at, is only from ad revenue, but doesn’t take into account Android Market revenues, and the benefits to Google search. Here’s the lengthy quote that explains all the areas where Google benefits from Android:

"This revenue does not even include all the other value Android generates for Google, ranging from Android Market revenue, to other Android-related services, to ensuring that Google will not be locked out of the mobile business, to lucrative relationships with manufacturers of myriad devices on which Android can and does run, to the inordinately valuable access Android provides to customers for its new social network service, Google+. Indeed, Android has enabled Google to wield such power with regard to search and other services that its Android distribution and licensing practices -- far from the 'open' practices Google has proclaimed it lives by -- are under investigation by competition law agencies in the United States, Europe and elsewhere."

Now, we don’t know if that makes much of a case for defending Oracle’s cause that Android is built around copyrighted Java APIs, but it certainly adds a reason for nearer-term trial and an interesting financial perspective.

Oracle might have arrived at the $10 million a day calculation from internal information, but Florian Muller of FOSSPatents notes that it’s most likely that the number is derived from an assumption of ad revenues of $14 per Android user.

source: FOSSPatents via BGR

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1. drahmad posted on 18 Jan 2012, 09:48 0 8

10 million an year. i think microsoft is making much more than this. 5 dollar per device and about half million daily activations means .5x5=2.5x70%= 1.75 million per day x 365 = 638 million an year. wow

3. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:03 6 1

I think it says 10 million a day, NOT at year.

16. drahmad posted on 18 Jan 2012, 12:37 1 2

lol, read it again.

19. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 18 Jan 2012, 13:15 2 0

Yeah that is why I said "I THINK", because there is a conflict of information on this article.

Not sure what to believe.

They quote this, "Each day's worth of activations likely generates approximately $10 million in annual mobile advertising revenue for Google."

Then in the last paragraph they say this, "Oracle might have arrived at the $10 million a "day" calculation from internal information,....."

Plus the title of the article is this, "Oracle says Android activations bring $10 million to Google's pockets each day".

Again I am not sure what to believe. I think it maybe 10 million a day is what they meant not per year, but who knows based on this article.

lol, I think you need to read it again also!

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21. drahmad posted on 18 Jan 2012, 13:22 1 1

:-) thanks

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22. remixfa posted on 18 Jan 2012, 13:52 1 1

its 10 million per day.

take the estimated $14 per handset x # of daily android sales = 10 million-ish.

Maybe it should say "android makes 10 million more each day towards yearly revenue than it did the day before"..
hell.. i dunno. i get what its trying to say but yea its hard to sum up.. lol.

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27. thinking posted on 19 Jan 2012, 05:31 0 0

714286 is what they have to activate each day to get 10 million a day as per the $14 assumption per handset. Not sure - are they activating as many?

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31. drahmad posted on 19 Jan 2012, 08:08 0 0

about 500000 daily

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32. drahmad posted on 19 Jan 2012, 08:13 0 0

i think oracle has overestimated. just each of you think, how many times you clicked an ad? rember one click is about a few cents....so can u earn 14 dollars to google?

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28. thinking posted on 19 Jan 2012, 05:33 1 0

when there is a conflict between the quote and the interpretation of the quote (last para and title are the interpretations), we should go by the quote.

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9. rashod posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:34 2 3

you better read the news before post fool comments dude..
microsoft is a loosing company..but google not...
just think...
its my comment

11. remixfa posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:46 3 0

neither is a losing company. the only one losing right now is rim.

20. drahmad posted on 18 Jan 2012, 13:20 2 1

microsoft is not all about windows phone popy. MS has other huge businesses too.

2. mozes316 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:02 4 0

I'm not big on legal issues, but is Oracle trying to say that a portion of this said amonunt made by Google is owed to them because of patent infringments?

Or that Google makes too much money?

5. mozes316 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:06 3 0

Also "Each day's worth of activations likely generates approximately $10 million in ANNUAL mobile advertising revenue for Google." is way different from 10 million EACH DAY, as the title suggests.

4. ivanko34 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:04 4 0

Someone must say to oracle that everything is normal
Google made a very good very nice OS so it is normal they get back some money

6. bloodline posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:15 4 2

what is going on here? Google put alot of time and effort in android and offer it free to manufacturers its only fair that they try and get money some way.

article is stupid and pointless.

8. mozes316 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:18 0 0

The article doesn't seem too biased, simply reporting something that happened. Thats how I took it anyways...

7. snowgator posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:18 6 1

Google took a chance on a open source network, and poured tons of money into it. They approached it from a different angle than anyone else, and changed the game. Does that mean that some of these lawsuits don't have merit? Of course not. But why in the name of Gilligan's Island does Oracle think anyone remotely cares how much money Android makes as related to their case? Is the judge supposed to be offended by the numbers, and demand big, bad Google share it's cash with them just because?

Prove your case, or shut up.

10. rashod posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:41 0 1

oracle made the java..
as i know java is open source...
so what is the big deal...yes android use java and all so c# and Xml ,
but its a googles property....