Nokia N8 is used to shoot at the world's biggest stop-motion animation set
1. Laurynas (unregistered)
It is nothing more than a promotion...
3. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Never the less it's still an impressive film. & to be done on a mobile phone, just shows the quality of the camera on the Nokia N8.
4. Laurynas (unregistered)
Yes, I agree, it is impressive, but still doesn't change the fact that it is just a commercial.
6. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok we know it's a commercial. Does knowing that diminish the fact that it's an impressive well thought out & implemented piece of art? I think that it is more than just a simple "promotion" as you are putting it. Like the author of this article says, it is indeed "breath-taking". It has substance, & I truly wanted to see how it was going to end. I can't say that for most commercials on TV these days!
7. Laurynas (unregistered)
And how it change my statement that it is promotion? It doesn't, because it is fact!
8. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Laurynas, no one is arguing with you that it's NOT a commercial or promo. All I am saying is that it's MORE than just a simple promo. Also how do you know it's definitely a promo? This article never said definitively that it's a promo. This can very well be a short avant-garde film shot on a new or different medium. You just can't simply assume it's a promotion. If you want to get technical that is! We just don’t know, but I can rest assured that it’s definitely more that a promo, if indeed it is a promo from the get go.
9. Laurynas (unregistered)
I was looking from "technical" point of view and from this point it is commercial and nothing more. But, yes, as I already have said, I agree, it is preatty good looking commercial.
10. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You don't know that at all, you are speculating. Facts are facts, speculation is definitely NOT fact. We BOTH don't know if this is a commercial at all. Sorry I can’t agree with you. I agree with facts NOT speculation.
15. Laurynas (unregistered)
Have you ever asked yourself such questions like a:
1.They could use professional cameras instead of using smartphones, but fore some reasons they have selected NOKIA N8. Why?
2. If NOKIA doesn't have any marketing considerations in this project, then why NOKIA is so active in it?
And there is answer for you:
With such projects NOKIA just want to get more attention and it's all not about goodwill, it is part of marketing.
19. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I am sorry but that link you sent proves nothing. You don't know if that it's a commercial or not. We ALL don't know. You are now discrediting yourself with your speculation. So what if others have made promos for the Nokia N8, that doesn't mean that this stop motion film called Gulp is the same thing. So please tell me why someone can't use a Nokia N8 to make a short film? So if your favorite movie was filmed with an ARRI motion picture camera then it's not a film it's a promo for ARRI huh? See how your argument is broken? It just doesn't make any sense. Why do you insist this is a commercial? Were you there, did you help make this film? How can you be so absolutely sure this is a commercial?
11. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
This is not a comercial, ther is no reason for the N8 to be promoted over and over again. This is just to show the great things you can do with it. If this was the Nokia n9 then it would be a commercial.
13. Laurynas (unregistered)
"This is not a comercial, ther is no reason for the N8 to be promoted over and over again."
I didn't said that it is fo NOKIA N8!
It is just for NOKIA's brand!
14. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
But still this shouldn't even been called a commercial, this should be called a piece of art. I bet you if this was a samsung galaxy S2 you wouldn't be calling this a commercial.
16. Laurynas (unregistered)
I'm not a fan of any brand! So, I don't care it is Samsung, Apple, HTC or any other...
With such projects NOKIA just want to get more attention and it's all not about goodwill, it is part of marketing. Look here:http://nokia.com/N8/producers
18. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
I have already seen all that but why would that even bother you. At least they are doing something to entertain the N8 users with this type of contest unlike other companies. The N* was released almost a year ago and we still hear news, contests and promotions about it. Isn't that good????????
23. Laurynas (unregistered)
Now you are offtopic, because our discussion was not about that.
31. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
You were the one that posted the link about the N8 PRODUCERS CONTEST, so therefore I had to point that out.
17. Laurynas (unregistered)
"But still this shouldn't even been called a commercial, this should be called a piece of art."
And since this piece of art is part of NOKIAS's marketing, this can and should be allso called commercial, promotion, advertisement...
20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
How do you know Nokia even has anything to do with this film? Maybe they just wanted to use the N8 to be different! 3 Nokia N8's are way cheaper than a 100,000 dollar ARRI movie camera. Again you STILL don’t know if this is a commercial or not. Where is your proof?.
24. Laurynas (unregistered)
"How do you know Nokia even has anything to do with this film?"
"We’ve got some exclusive sneak peak clips from behind the scenes at the #NokiaGulp shoot, where Aardman Animations and Nokia are attempting to set a new world record with their huge film ‘Gulp’.
Last year we successfully broke the record for the world’s smallest animation, with ‘Dot’, again as part of a Nokia campaign, and this time round we’re going to the oppostie extreme!"
Also don't forget to visit "commercials and branded content" section on Aradman's web page, her you will find smallest animation, with ‘Dot’, again as part of a Nokia campaign!
It's proves everything to 100%!
So, stop being "blind" and arguing nonsense!
26. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Laurynas great you got the company who helped make this film. Kudos to you. Where you fail is that STILL the NokiaGulp shoot is not a commercial. It's a film to set a Guinness World Record. Aardman does make commercials, as well as Feature Films, TV & Shorts, Games, Websites, Virtual Worlds, Viral Campaigns & again COMMERCIALS. The "Dot” short is NOT a commercial. Again it’s to set a Guinness World Record not to sell Nokia N8’s. Sorry dude I STILL say you are wrong. It was a valiant try but ultimately a FAILED try.
"So, stop being "blind" and arguing nonsense!" as per Laurynas lol
25. Laurynas (unregistered)
Here is another prove that it is all about marketing:
SuperAndroidEvo, don't make a fool of yourself and don't start complaining now with various nonsense talks that it is not related with any NOKIAS's projects or that it is not a marketing!
27. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Again it's to set a world record, it's not a commercial. Just because Nokia is behind it, doesn't mean it’s a commercial. Please you need to stop. You are getting belligerent! lol
28. Laurynas (unregistered)
Yes, it is advertisement and the only difference between this and other advertisements that this one sets world's record.
1. This video is a part of a Nokia's campaign.
2. In thise video we can see Nokia's product (Nokia N8).
3. In this video we can see Nokia's brand name.
4. Nokia publicize this video.
Now put all this points together, it is called
ADVERTISEMENT and it is the FACT!
Also if it is not advertisement, then why Nokia publicize this video together with a link to Nokia's product page???
Citation of SuperAndroidEvo:
"The "Dot” short is NOT a commercial."
If it is not a commercial, then why this video in
Aradman's web page is in section called "commercials and branded content" ???
I think that you already know the fact that it is advertisement, but you are still intentionally trying to ignore that fact!
30. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4641; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Look I need to go, we can go at it all night. If you say it's a commercial then fine that is your opinion. To me it's Branded Content which is not an ad nor entertainment it’s something in-between. The REAL reason for the making of this film is NOT for a commercial, but so set a WORLD RECORD. It’s like the Nathan’s Hotdog eating contest. The point is to see who eats the most hotdogs, not to sell the hotdogs. It’s a competition NOT a commercial. Just because Nathan’s sponsors it doesn’t mean it’s a commercial. At the end of every movie they show you what camera’s were used to make the film, that doesn’t mean the movie is a commercial for the camera, or whatever. The movie is what it is NOT a commercial. Gulp is a short film that happens to be shot with a N8. It necessarily doesn’t mean it’s a commercial. Maybe they showed a N8 to prove it was used because the film looks like a REAL production camera was used, we just don’t know. You may think whatever & that is fine, BUT you will never change my opinion. This is in the realm of GRAY. It's not as clear as you are making it be. Again you are entitled to your opinion! To say it definitively is a commercial well that is not right. You & I don’t know.
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Comment Nr. 6
"Ok we know it's a commercial."
32. ap (unregistered)
i think you come across as someone who works for Nokia... it sounds like you are just trying to conceal the commercial aspect of this great animation.
Why would it matter what they shot the animation on? You don't see artists mentioning what brand of paint they use or what what brand of camera they use in a gallery show... unless it's to promote a brand/corporation.
If they wanted to be "different" they could have just said "shot on a cell phone camera", but they are very specific that its an N8 camera....
regardless its cool, but it's silly to say that they shot it on a Nokia N8 "just to be different".
33. Laurynas (unregistered)
2. cam (unregistered)
Very impressive :)
5. anonymous1233 (unregistered)
which idiot is gonna buy this s**t phone???
12. dblue45 (Posts: 77; Member since: 26 Aug 2009)
That's brilliant! N8 indeed has one of the best cameras out there :)
21. MechaFatigue (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Jan 2011)
erm. its an art. also it unintended-ly promote the Nokia's N8. guess you guys already realised it earlier. am I right peeps?
22. matistight (Posts: 253; Member since: 13 May 2009)
The only reason they used a Nokia is because NO ONE has pause oon their video camera in their phones....but the Nokia does! My Nokia 5300 had that!
29. Laurynas (unregistered)
They take a photos not video!