Nokia Lumia 900 rumored specs reiterated: expected to come with LTE
1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4791; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok that's all good BUT is it at least dual-core?
16. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
WP have no support for dual-core. Yet it is smoother than dualcore Android phones.
25. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 111; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
Yea but it cant play games like an android phone can Dual core only games will not work on a WP7 Device an you cant even record in 1080P!
26. Allday28 (Posts: 283; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
Thats probably because android is made to have apps running in the background, and can do a whole lot more...
27. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
No, that's because most Android apps are interpreted on the go (Dalvik VM), which is performance, memory and battery consuming.
2. phunkinc (Posts: 16; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)
WP7 Doesn't support Dual Core (or any sort of Multi-Core chipsets) yet. Also, WP7 doesn't need multi-core to perform well. It runs perfectly fine on even the Radar's 1000MHz Single Core Snapdragon
6. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4791; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I know that, but they are falling way behind. Apple's bogus little iPhone 4S is dual-core. Android is just months away from quad-core phones.
Windows is alienating the mobile gamer because all the best games are on Android & iOS. Mobile gaming is taking on more & more steam, to some mobile gaming is a huge deciding factor in not choosing a Windows Phone 7.5 Mango device. WP7.5 Mango seems to not be keeping pace ESPECIALLY that Microsoft has the Xbox 360 under its belt. There should be no reason why a dual-core WP7.5 Mango that takes advantage of the Xbox 360 device doesn’t exist at this very moment.
This is 2012 already. A high-end Nokia phone NEEDS to be at the very least a dual-core, a single-core phone is unacceptable & will be counter intuitive to both WP7.5 Mango & Nokia.
8. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I agree with you here, Games somewhat plays a certain role from consumers choice like myself, who choose Android over other OSes due to the million games available on the market, and also due to the flexibility of installing them on the device (legally or illegally) as some would refer. . .
17. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
mobile gaming is for kids tbh. And kids shouldn't be allowed to use mobile more expensive than 250€ anyway :)
11. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i agree with SAE. the interface is smooth but as far as actual performance is concerned Windows Phones are seriously behind.
24. Just_a_boy (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Maybe as hardware Windows Phone are not so flashy, I mean they made a economic OS that don't need a bigger RAM or processor to work and it does flawlessly. Multi-cores processors are bad because it raises the cost of production, and the smartphones are getting even more expensive.
12. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Beating a dead horse here, gang. Everyone on this site knows Windows will not have dual Core until Apollo update this year. Every rumor in the world says that WP8 will have all the goodies needed for techies: High def and Hi res screens, better gaming processors, multicore support, the whole bit. The phones with Windows on it, including the 900 or the supped up 800, will not have them. Sure, WP should have released dual core devices this time around. It would have given them a tech selling point and future proofed the devices a little, even if WP 7.5 didn't need them. But they didn't. This summer will see the release of them. Android fans will still be pointing to how much quicker they had them and how quad-core is on the way, so why even bring it up?
Windows needs better gaming options, more secure business options, seamless integration into the Windows 8 PCs, and some ways to allow customizations to live tiles (personnel photos or designs, little bitty wallpapers just for them, ect) and they need to have that happen with no compromise to the WP user experience. If they get that right, it will have been worth the wait.
18. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4791; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
I STILL think 2012 will be the year that WP platform finally takes off. They have some good things cooking & I really hope it pans out.
Windows 8 & Xbox 360 support for Apollo should be not just cool but INSANE. If they just follow up with what they are saying with WP8 I truly see Microsoft's fortunes turning.
Apple has the most to lose in 2012. iOS5 is a BIG disappointment & Apple isn't innovating like they have done in the past. Apple is resting on its laurels & that is going to hurt them for sure. Microsoft on the other hand is working hard & WP7.5 proves their commitment.
Android is blazing the path with ICS BUT if Microsoft keeps their word with WP8 & their Windows 8/Xbox 360 integration I see them both taking some serious chucks out of Apple's pie. In 1 to 2 years after WP8 hits I can see Microsoft being #2 while Apple slips to 3rd.
3. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
WP7 is simplistic and basic that it will never need dual core.
windows 8 maybe another story.
eitherway wp7 is 2009-2010 tech and it will always stay behind android and ios, which is great if you dont like the latter.
7. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4791; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Well if the OS never needs a dual-core, then at least have a dual-core just for Xbox Live/Xbox 360 integration or for gaming in general. The games that are coming out on both Android & iOS are starting to take dual-core tech into consideration. A single-core chip can't handle the dual-core games that are out & are coming out in the very near future.
10. StreetNerd (Posts: 819; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Chassis 3 ("Apollo") - 1280x720 resolution, dual core CPUs
13. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4791; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Now that is what I am talking about. At this point they may need just to skip the dual-core & jump to quad-core since 2012 looks like the year of the quad-core processor.
I just hope that by summer time Apollo is a reality, because if it drops on the Fall season or later they will just be in the same exact boat they are in at this very moment.
14. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Totally agree with that point, SAE. Gamers are such a HUGE portion of the smartphone world. With XBOX Live as a selling point, it is near criminal to not overpower the WP options with gaming chips to future proof them and allow development of this feature. I will happily defer to what chips are needed to those of you with higher chip I.Q.'s than me. But they need them.
4. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
ofcourse it will have dual-core soon, complex users will need more multitasking power and multicore chips will get the job done better..
9. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
windows 8 may get dual core, windows 7 will never get it.
5. Firedrops (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
I was wondering, which comes first?
Do the app developers develop apps which require low processing power because WPs generally have inferior(relatively) hardware(Only considering CPU, ram and GPU)?
Or do WPs generally have inferior hardware because app developers don't develop apps which require any higher processing power? (and RAM)
15. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Build the hardware, the software will come. Microsoft has limited what manufacturers can put out, so app and gaming developers have worked within those restrictions. MS has had reasons: They wanted to ensure a seamless experience after the performance of Windows Mobile was so spotty, they wanted to ensure uniformed updates, and they wanted to build a secure network and infrastructure. I am guessing the small sales of WP up to this point may have been almost by design: Walk before you run, crawl before they walk. Getting Mango right through last summer on the few phones they had out was fine. The lack of sales increases since the release of 2nd Gen devices shows me MS is still crawling when they should be up to a jog, though. They need to be sprinting by the Summer sales season. Time to pick up the pace, guys. With the delays in BB10, third place and 10%-15% worldwide sales are there for the taking.
19. seylan (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
If these are the specs, all I can feel is disappointment. They should have tried harder...Maybe this is what the Lumia 800 should have been in the first place...
Oh well, as for WP8, I'm fine with dual-core as long as they use the very latest CPU's and GPU's(Please no Cortex A9 ). No need for Quad-core yet, there is virtually no point in having one in a phone(for now) especially since they haven't unleashed the full abilities of dual-cores yet...
This phone shouldn't be under the "900" category, since the specs aren't high enough to be considered a flagship. An all-plastic body weighing 160g ? And 12 mm thick? I know it will look good and feel good in the hand, but I also want it to be thin and light! I'm sure they could have fitted in 1 GB Ram and more megapixels(come on, 8mp is becoming too average!) If they expect this to sell well, then it better cost $500 or less unlocked...and come bundled with some of Nokia's funky accessories.
21. Just_a_boy (Posts: 183; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
N8 camera+NFC+Design+multi-colored body+A customized Windows Phone by Nokia+ Great Materials= success. This is the perfect equation for Nokia right now.
23. jove39 (Posts: 1750; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Well...i think MS is doing right thing for now...by keeping dual-core chips away from WP7.x.
In future...if MS really want to win hearts of people...they'll have to offer more features...at least as much as latest Android OS...along with integration of various services...on all platforms win7, WP7 tablets and xbox 360. I am sure MS can build better eco-system for users than Apple.