Exynos 7420 (Galaxy S6) vs Snapdragon 810 (HTC One M9) vs Apple A8 (iPhone 6) benchmark scores
1. shaineql (Posts: 355; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Samsung really did a good job this time , i hope they dont use Snapdragon at all this time.
Whats amazing is that Galaxy S6 Edge scores 70k in Antutu and a whoping 21k score in 3D with 2k display more than any smartphone (M9 with 1080p).
They must have designed that Exynos CPU in some way that resolution dosent affect its 3d performance as much.
3. Aploine (Posts: 426; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)
Well, they ditched microSD but they make a special dual sim edition
for Philipines, don't they? http://tinyurl.com/ou52m7s
Why? Because they favor carriers more than us.
No microSD means more carrier data usage.
Thus S6 is more attractive to carriers.
They basically say to carriers:
"I have a money sucker for you, better than the iPhone!"
The CEO said in his speech addressing to the carriers:
"our customers will be ready when you are".
He also said "We put our customers first, (...) we listen"
Who are their customers and who did they listened?
Do it like the Appole, Samy
5. shaineql (Posts: 355; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Yes lets spam the interwebs "no SD" slot :D, most of the people dont care , they would rather have a killer phone than bulky phone with sdcard and nothing to show for . Later.
6. spin9 (Posts: 282; Member since: 31 May 2014)
they make a special dual sim edition
for Philipines, don't they?http://tinyurl.com/ou52m7s
9. neops (Posts: 285; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)
You sound so logical and not drunken wow.
That matter with the sd pisses me off too
92. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
What kills me is people can get WiFi storage devices for only $50 that can fit on your key chain. Also you can get USB storage as well. More then one way to skin a cat.
Not to mention the S6 is using the fastest ram (DDR4 not found on any other mobile device), and the fastest emmc storage, and you can also buy the 128 GB version of this device.
8. tech2 (Posts: 3453; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
So its okay when HTC did it with M7:
M7 (dual sim):http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_on
But its cool to troll for lack of MicroSd slot on a SoC article, right ?
15. spin9 (Posts: 282; Member since: 31 May 2014)
@#5 "most of the people don't care" there's your answer
16. tech2 (Posts: 3453; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
I am saying releasing dual sim version in asian countries is not really a breaking news. All other OEMs do that you're simply drawing unnecessary conclusion here. Besides how sure are you that a Sim card slot can just as easily be replaced with MicroSd slot ?
Every company work to make profit but sadly you guys forget when Samsung offers $500 worth of free goodies and free storage on Dropbox !
19. spin9 (Posts: 282; Member since: 31 May 2014)
Not the point though. The point is that Sam makes a dual sim easily and not with an sd. Microsoft just gave 200GB free space
52. Teeeyoo (Posts: 97; Member since: 13 Jul 2013)
I believe bec SD cards are slow? Samsung perhaps use the latest universal storage flash in S6 and S6 edge which is 2.7 times faster than normal sd cards and by most smartphones are using thats why they provided options for 64 and 128gb..most people dont really use their phone for saving videos and movies 32GB is more than enough for a normal consumer..
86. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Because it is easy. Now easy? The Note 3's microSD slot was also combined with the SIM tray as single piece and the phone was still thin. You solder it to the board and at a path to the SOC, that's it.
Here is a picture of the microsd slot not mounted to a PCS -http://img.dxcdn.com/productim
It is very thin. All they have to do is cut a hole in the frame and put a door on it. They dropped the sdcard slot, because probably because the vast majority don't use it. After all, the only reason to have one is with small internal flash storage. With a phone available in 32,64 and 128, do you need it now?
Based on typical S6 pricing, the 128GB S6 would be $850 which is the same price of the 64GB iPhone 6 or the 16GB iPhone 6+.
If you need the sdcard so bad, which is a bottleneck these days, then stick with an older phone. Also, the phone still has a standard microUSB port. There are microSd adapters that are small hat plug in and use the connection. So you can still have an SDcard if you want.
You have seen these...right? -http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphot
65. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
You may be up on how bad the sd card lag out the mem controler just adding the slot to the phone, samsung as removed it not to just make more cash on upgrades as they not going to be making that much cash due to the hi end mem being used, but because if they added the sd card a good range of the speed added by the new mem will have gone over to even if you not using an sd card, it's like added ddr1 mem to a ddr4 pc and looks what happens if you do that, I.e. Like the clock speed of the mem if one is lower it all goes down
66. tech2 (Posts: 3453; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
hmmm....you may have a very good point there. If that's the reason I second Samsung but just wondering do you have any proof to back that up ?
61. medicci37 (Posts: 1276; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
I would like to be able to use my 32 gb SD card that's gonna go to waste now
62. karkavelas (Posts: 70; Member since: 25 Oct 2013)
Before that was an issue for all the Samsung funs.
now that Samsung remove micro sd slot "none cares".
Bigger battery was also an issue and now that Samsung does it "it's ok".
it's ok to be sheep, but it's not ok if you are blind sheep.
67. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
It's now not ok due to the speed of the mem being used and it's been bad for some time, it damages the phone speed even on the note 4 even when not using a sd card,
Why do think Apple always as the best mem test when it comes to speed, it not because they use good mem as its cheap crap, it's because they do not use a mem controler that supports sd cards
87. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
You must be blind. The Fans are pissed that Samsung dropped the microSD support. Aren't you even reading the posts?
I'm not happy they dropped it too, but I'm no a fn; it was just a very useful feature for me.
But I dot own a S an more I have the Note. But I assume, the Note5 will be the same is they use hi design.
There re still ways to use a microSd car with an Android phone whether it has microSD builtin or not -http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphot
This is why I wont get mad, because the device still supports it, it just doesn't have the internal mount for it. Big deal. No sense in crying over spilled milk. Its gone so why cry about it?
But al least they did increase the internal storage where 32GB is the minimum unlike greedy Apple who dumped 32 for 16 instead.
85. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
sdcards, don't make phones bulky.
Here is a photo of a microsd card slot. Does that look bulky?
93. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
I would rather have the fastest CPU, ram, and storage on my device then micro SD. And this S6 delivers. The S6 is the only mobile device to offer the fastest ram (DDR4), and it also has the fastest emmc 5.1 storage. Which users have the option to get up to 128 GB of emmc 5.1 storage. Not to mention there is USB storage and WiFi storage.
20. Tajiseo (Posts: 45; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)
Well, by your logic, I can see why the carriers advertise for iPhones a lot. I mean dude they are the ones selling the phone, so....
26. Settings (Posts: 1591; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Maybe its just the way to make the dust-garhering S5 make sold. Knowing Samsung, they will release S6 with microSD slot after people who bought enough S6 handsets.
38. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
So you're saying Samsung removed the memory slot primarily to help sell the S5? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while.
There is a possibility that S6 variants and the Note 5 will still have an SD slot. But if the S6 is as profitable as Samsung thinks it's going to be, I don't see why they would (or should) consider a microSD slot at all.
68. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Nope they will not add sd card due to how it damages the mem controler as why Apple a
Ways get the best speed.with mem
I.e. If they add sd card they remove the fast ram
53. maherk (Posts: 3724; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Cry me a river!!
Stop crying over micro sd, it's just a propaganda that was started by trolls like you. Samsung wouldn't jump into such a decision without a heavy study to unsure that the majority of customers will be pleased and it will attract more into ditching their smartphones and going with the S6. And based on what i noticed from comments all over the web and Youtube, they did hell of a job, big portion of Samsung's ex haters are liking the new S6, while the vast majority of Samsung fans are sticking with them for another year even those who aren't fond of ditching micro sd.
Btw, Samsung ditched micro sd slots not because they couldn't fit it into the S6 you fool, they did so to make sure micro sd cards won't slow down the phone, like it is happening with my Note 4 and my 64GB Sandisk Class 10. I can't live without my micro sd card for now since the Note 4 is only available in 32gb variant, but with bigger memory options on the S6, i can live without it very easily.
59. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I'm not calling you out specifically, but this is the kind of backtracking that confuses everyone, myself included. Note 4 owners say the phone's a beast, fast, and completely lag free, but here you are admitting that it noticeably slows down with a memory card, so much so that Samsung might have to toss a favorite hardware feature to fix it.
And when the iPhone 6/Plus official pricing was announced, claws came out with accusations that Apple was ripping off all their customers with the expensive extra $200 for 128GB, but now most of you guys are just fine with shelling out the same $100 or $200 for the S6. And on top of that, you're all fine with paying another $100-$150 for two pretty useless (and ugly in my humble opinion) curves on the S6 Edge. It's like we're living in the twilight zone. iPhone users have had their fair share of hypocrisy (i.e. bigger screen sizes) but you guys definitely take the cake.
I'm just saying, if having a removable battery and affordable expandable storage was never that important, why for all these years pretend that it is??? Just wait, by the end of April we're all getting an earful about how any phone without wireless charging is completely dead and useless.
60. maherk (Posts: 3724; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
It's not just the Note 4, ANY phone will slow down with big micro sd cards.
The base model for the iPhone 6 is 16gb, while the S6's is 32GB. Big difference buddy ;)
70. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
I think you missing what he is saying it slows down the mem controler just having the sd card slot or if he uses sd card, due to it being crap, it's why Apple as faster mem speeds then the not4 it's not because Apple using good mem, it's beacuse they use a mem controler that does not have to deal with sd card support, it's like adding in lower clock ram in to your pc, it all goes down
88. miket1737 (Posts: 2541; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
Lmao "the headphone jack is on the bottom........PPPPPOOOOOOF"
94. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Even the latest iPhones don't offer the fastest emmc 5.1 storage or have 3 GB of the fastest DDR4 ram. But the S6 is giving its users the fastest components on any mobile device. Components like these were only found on desktops.
111. rb1725 (Posts: 3; Member since: 10 Aug 2015)
You are a dumbass!
"claws came out with accusations that Apple was ripping off all their customers with the expensive extra $200 for 128GB, but now most of you guys are just fine with shelling out the same $100 or $200 for the S6"
There is a big difference between $100 and $200. Spending an extra $200 for 128gb is ridiculous!
"And on top of that, you're all fine with paying another $100-$150 for two pretty useless (and ugly in my humble opinion) curves on the S6 Edge"
Really? If all of us are "fine" with paying $100-$150 for the S6 Edge why did Samsung even make the regular S6?
99. KRONeage (Posts: 142; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)
Why even bother to try and make Apple's iDiotic fans understand just how much more advanced Samsung is than Apple? They are all just a bunch of brainless fools, like those stupid girls loving on ISIS to become iJihadists Cult Members. Not realizing they're about to get what little brains they have completely F**** out of 'em! ....which is their MONEY w/ Apple's deluded fools for inferior products now!
You just got to know that they are all brainwashed Applewellian Proles, who need Siri to tell them how to think. Then pay through nose for products best compared to Gypsy Circus Barkers touting of iSnakedU Oil to their Elitist... Holier than Thou... religiously fanatical iDiots!
Truth is simple; Galaxy S6 will PWN to OWN all their competitors combined this year. They own the best, smallest, most energy efficient ARM SoC fabrication process in the World. Exynos 7420 is Killing Apple's A8 comparing total SoC core compute scores, with cooler chips. Then pairing that with new Ultra Fast 3GB of LPDDR4 ram and 32GB base model UFS 2.0 ROM memory. Which is 3 times faster than the eMMC memory in both of these competitor's devices for the Ultimate BEAST set to blow the competition totally out of the water this year.
SD CARDS? lol... It's a DEAD MAN RUNNING IN PLACE..... getting nowhere. The Secure Digital Standard got HACKED day one... in it's release conference. But they decided to just keep their mouths SHUT... about it's Security being Stillborn!!! haha... They are using FAT file system and anyone with any brains so that not only is it not secure, but it's easily corrupted. Although MicroSD cards were fine back in the World of 4GB and 8GB onboard memory, it's a joke running on borrowed time today. Too slow, too easily corrupted... jar your phone and you can dislodge the slot connection and corrupt your files and there are so many far better alternatives available today. #1 With Lollipop
No swappable battery? Are these fools kidding??? Secure Digital Standard has been trying to kill itself off for a decade, with its lack of a modern secure file system, since launched. SD Readers are more secure, because they're mounted as external drives using OTG ports via MicroUSB ports. Plus on SAMSUNG devices they are Auto Mounted and even support full Sata 3.0 external SSD memory drives. But.... MicroSD slots are still a mess on Multiuser functionality. So Insecure, easily corrupted, no real modern file system besides FAT, means it really is a "DEAD MAN RUNNING" Memory Standard, built into devices that SCREAM SPEED.... like Galaxy S6 and Edge Hardware!
101. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
There's nothing impressive about 7420. It was literally a purchased design from ARM. The cores inside 7420 are 100% OFF-THE-SHELF.
14nm is nice and all. But we all know that the Apple will be able to buy 14nm for the A9 with its GDP sized profits.
Ditto for LPDDR4 RAM.
No matter how fast your RAM is: Software makes the RAM do its magic. And Android is the absolute worst OS on the planet at managing device RAM.
And SD Cards are indeed the dinosaurs that need to die that you think they are.
109. KRONeage (Posts: 142; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)
Off the shelf design? haha.... Even if it was, that means it's still far better at running ARMv8 instruction sets..... doesn't it? lol.... Get real Samsung's Exynos chip is not a generic ARM design. It's like an Octopus with 8 asynchronous cores (4 A53 w/ 4 A57 cores). Originally ARM was only focused on running one set of cores at time to reduce energy in their design.
While only going to more powerful A57 cores when they were needed. Leaving the A53 cores sitting idle in Big/Little design philosophy, announced three years ago with Samsung naturally it's first licensee as it's Lead Foundry partner.
So Samsung (before ARM went to AMD's HSA Foundation), went to AMD and helped found the the HSA and to work on porting HSA API's (heterogeneous compute architecture) to their new SoC design called.... yeah Exynos. At first they did just take an off the shelf ARM design and only modify it to suit their needs temporarily. But they convinced ARM to also join HSA and others followed.
Now.... I don't know how much you actually know about chip design or fabrication process design. But the process of turning a chip design into an actual processor is a whole lot more involved and intensive of a task than the initial design. They have place components properly or basically redesign the whole chip (SoC in this case) to fit the process.
Samsung Semiconductor is 2nd only to Intel in revenue earnings and they are NOT even just a design house now like AMD or Apple. Although in ARM chip design they are KING right now, with Exynos SoC design. The cores? Yes... they are ARM, but without the components and firmware embedded in the metal, according to Samsung's Exynos SoC design.... they are nothing. Many others are now using ARM 64bit core designs. But none of them are scoring even close to what Exynos 7420 is doing right now.
Whereas TSMC is fabrication only house and do NOT do any actual chip or SoC designs of their own and they sub license Intel's fabrication process. Yet you're trying to say Samsung is like..... TSMC? lol.... mwahaha Yeah.... right! Go back to school and get an education. Then try to tell me that! :DDD
Apple further more is not a chip designer even. They bought the designs with the purchase of PA Semi. Who were a chip design house until every engineer flew the coop and left them with designs only. They convince some to stay, but once they found out Apple was just going to sit on them, until ARM designed 64bit instruction sets and not challenge Intel like they had thought they would with PWRficient 64bit designs, they left.
Meanwhile who do you think let Apple use their SoC designs (remember a core design is not a SoC design)? Yeah Samsung's SoC designs are what ran on original iPhones all the way through iPhone 4s. If they weren't, then why under an electron microscope do they look exactly the same? :D
Sorry but I already see you know absolutely nothing about semiconductors in the first place. So I'm out of here! ha...
100. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
The S6 will mainly suck more data by having much larger file sizes on all photographs and because of the QHD display that gobbles up that data.
Oh and Samsung AND Google run background processes that parse everything you do.
12. Kumar123 (Posts: 740; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Can you tell me what's the point of record breaking benchmark if the phone still stutter.?The S6 still drop frames occasionally as anandtech pointed out in their hands on of S6. It seems even The superfast processor build on Superior 14nm and Ultra fast SSD class memory card can't cure the stuttering performance of S6. Its a shame really. Good luck Samsung because with the still mediocre looks of S6 and stuttering performance you're gonna need it fighting against Apple iPhones and Chinese Xiaomi phones.
14. ciprian.ruse (Posts: 294; Member since: 13 May 2014)
MBQ, Pocketnow, AA this guys said nothing about frame drops and said that it's super smooth with no more lag.
22. Kumar123 (Posts: 740; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Well, I'm justing stating what I read. Samsung is far from good when it comes to Software optimization. Its a shame that with Such a high end hardware there is still stutter. They remove all the bloatware and still it still drop frame. They still need to work on their software.
Plus the touchwiz looks the same, They remove the bloatware but the looks of touchwiz looks the same as ever.
45. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
No, you're stating part off what you read, in order to push your agenda. What Anandtech said was the phone was extremely smooth, fluid and responsive, but they did notice rare, slight frame drops probably due to prefinal software.
But since you're so worried about frame drops, why don't you address the frame drops that Ars Technica reported on the iPhone 6+?
71. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
There is a new theme tool that changes the looks of the phone, why. Ha he the main look when that what customers buy
95. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Anandtech said an I will quote them "Areas like the multitasking interface were noticeably faster to open and close, but there were still some scenarios where I saw some slight frame drops which is likely due to the pre-release software.". So if you are open up multiple apps. Then this can happen at times, but can your iPhone or some other devices multitask. The answer is NO. Get back to me when the iPhone can offer real multitasking.
17. drunkenjay (Posts: 887; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
lol your just a samsung hater. yes this post makes you sound less like an hater but when i saw your previous posts, you are a hater.
23. peacekeeper05 (Posts: 33; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
All Android phones stutters from time to time. Even the Nexus 6 w/c supposedly the purest android you can buy still lag. The S6 will of course will not be immune to stuttering but lags and overall responsiveness is so much better now based on what I see on hands-on videos. Give me one android phone that doesn't stutter then I'll give you 1 million dollars.
31. Kumar123 (Posts: 740; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
I know that. But my point is this kind of performance benchmark is almost useless in real life especially when the record breaking high performance mark doesn't translate into stutters free experiance. As far as I know only HTC and Xiamoi phones give practically lag and shutters free experience in the android world.
41. drunkenjay (Posts: 887; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
even my iphone 6 lag and it was praised for its no lag experience.
i dont even want to say how many times it took to bring the bottom toggle tray.
every phone lags. try htc and xiaomi it will lag at least once. same goe to samsung. from all the videos i see i saw 1 lag and it was due to the magazine ui.
96. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Kumar anandtech said they saw a few frames drop when they did multitasking. Now try multitasking on your iPhone. Oh wait, sorry you can't do multitasking with iOS. When it offers real multitasking, then we will see how it will work. Until then, if you don't want multitasking and multi-window, then stick to your single tasking iOS devices.
25. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2887; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Please provide a link to this Anandtech article, since I can't find a single article on Anandtech about the S6 that describes any stutter issues
27. Kumar123 (Posts: 740; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Here, carefully read the whole article. You will find it eventually -http://anandtech.com/show/8999/samsung-announces-the-galaxy-s6
30. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2887; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Quote: " Areas like the multitasking interface were noticeably faster to open and close, but there were still some scenarios where I saw some slight frame drops which is likely due to the pre-release software."
Hardly indication this thing lags and stutters. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Only on the final version and with intensive testing, you can tell if this device is any good. Even on the iPhone 6+ there are these minor stutters, especially in the beginning.
36. Kumar123 (Posts: 740; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
I didn't say S6 lags and when I said stuttering I also use the word "occasionally". My point still stand. This recording breaking benchmark means nothing if this score fails to translate into buttery smooth performance. HTC and Xiaomi able to reach the smooth performance with less powerful hardware but for samsung it takes the highest end hardware to achieve a practically lag and stutter free performance. This shows how inefficient Samsung is at optimizing software.
43. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2887; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
When they test the end product with the final software, you can judge if this device stutters (occasionally) or not. Also keep in mind it's pushing quite the pixels. Ofcourse it's their own choice to go for QHD instead of FHD.
51. SamsungEU (Posts: 147; Member since: 29 Dec 2014)
It's a pre-release software what would you expect, they have another 3-4 weeks to iron out the bugs
33. JMartin22 (Posts: 1969; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
You're trying too hard, it's sad lol. Get off PA and sober up you drunk troll.
47. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
The overwhelming positive reaction to the GS6 causes him unbearable pain. To paraphrase the Blues Brothers, "He's on a mission from Jobs. "
76. tredstone (Posts: 2; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)
to be fair anandtech did say the stutter is likely due to the pre-release software . you missed that part out ?
102. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
Honestly the frame drops are because of Lollipop.
Nothing is going to be perfect when the base software is still unfinished. Lollipop needs a lot of work.