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EU is about to slap Google with €1+ billion fine for abusing search practices

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Margrethe Vestager, the European Union's competition commissioner

Margrethe Vestager, the European Union's competition commissioner


In the next few weeks, the EU is expected to come out with a decision on an investigation probing Google’s business practices, and the tech giant is facing a fine that may exceed €1 billion euro, according to Financial Times’ sources familiar with the matter. The European Commission and Google have not commented yet, but if the information is correct, it may be an indicator that a multi-year antitrust case is coming to a closure.

The European Commission accuses Google of abusing its dominant position in the European search engine market. The service in sight is Google Shopping, which allows users to compare prices of products between different vendors, and the investigators claim that the tech giant is using its own search algorithms to over-represent its service in the search results. If the giant is found guilty, the Commission could impose a fine of up to 10% of the company’s revenues totalling to $90 billion last year, according to Financial Times.

It is not the only investigation that puts Google under the European Commission’s magnifying glass, though. The EU regulator is also looking whether the company's insistence on pre-loading its apps on mobile devices actually prevents competing apps from reaching customers.

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posted on 16 Jun 2017, 08:40 8

1. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 1345; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


EU's dictatorship will soon to be collapsed, Google did nothing wrong on this tbh

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 13:22 5

13. zacsaturday (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 May 2014)


I guess the EU are trying to fix their 200 billion budget hole that has partly occurred from the UK leaving.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 08:56

21. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


UK had massive rebates and unfair budget position in the EU, them leaving is actually very good on many levels.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 22:04

16. joey_sfb (Posts: 6507; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Free money why not!

1 Billion dollars fine is pure greed.

If they ask for 100 million maybe Google could still accommodate.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 08:57

22. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


It's a fine for Google's greed.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 08:55

20. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Google did nothign wrong? Fixing search results is very wrong. Forcing OEMs to install useless apps is very wrong.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 08:41 7

2. Phonehex (Posts: 306; Member since: 16 Feb 2016)


So Google should develop Android ,give it away for free and not even pre load its own services?

EU : Yeah sure. Why not?

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 08:51

3. trojan_horse (Posts: 4167; Member since: 06 May 2016)


EU's argument is that Google should provide access to the Play Store to forked Android, those Android versions which do not have Google's services pre-installed. Ridiculous.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 08:54

4. ibend (Posts: 6549; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


android versions without google's service?
did you mean "chinese version" of android?

vanilla android always come with google services..
if someone decided to make his own custom android without google services (like chinese did for their own region) it's not google's fault

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 09:02

6. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3418; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


There are other non-chinese versions of Android without GAPPS, Amazon had it on their Kindle. The problem with forked versions of Android (which are allowed), they are not allowed to pre-install the Play store (and the Google Play services) without installing a bunch of other Google Apps. And let's face it, Android without Google Play services is seriously crippled, so companies are forced into pre-installing a bunch of apps.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 11:29 1

11. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4730; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


The main argument I've seen is that not allowing the Playstore on forked Android versions is perceived as an unfair advantage. If you suggest that companies putting out these forked Android versions create their own app store, they say that it's too costly and wouldn't catch on. What they fail to realize is that the Playstore didn't just magically happen overnight. It took Google time and money to grow it to what it is today. But these other companies don't want to put in the work, they want it right now and for nothing.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 22:08

17. joey_sfb (Posts: 6507; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Oh please! Since when did Google sue anyone that self pre-load play store.

Everyone that use custom ROM has to pre-load play store without Google permission.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 02:32

18. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3418; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Hey I can't blame Google for pushing their own apps if you want to install the Play store. Just the EU wasn't happy about it nor brands who make phones

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 09:09

29. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


No, Play Store's success is based on Android's popularity. Popularity which comes from the fact that it's an open source code and OEMs can implement a lot of changes. there's no reason to waste space on Chrome or rubbish Google Music when OEMs have their own apps that are miles better. And all reviewers bragging about "bloatware" - yes, Google is a bloatware.

posted on 18 Jun 2017, 00:12

31. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4730; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Yes it is. So why is it that other companies should be able to reap the rewards of Google work?

The Android that most people are familiar with is what I call Google Android. It comes with all of their apps including the Playstore preloaded. AOSP (Android Open Source Project) is just that open source, it doesn't have any G-apps or the Playstore. AOSP is open source, Google's apps including the Playstore are not they're proprietary.

Google's revenue comes from data mining apps for targeted ads. That money is used to develop Android and maintain the Playstore. So they should just lose that revenue stream but still develop Android and maintain the Playstore? No one is forcing any of these OEMs to use Android or from starting their own app store. Some OEMs are working on their own OS's with their own app store (Samsung for example). Google is also not preventing OEMs from installing their own apps or even setting them as the default (look at most any OEM that has access to the Playstore and you'll see their apps front and center).

Now you can say that without the OEMs Android would be nothing. Well I'd counter that without Android, these OEMs would be miles behind Apple (and probably behind WM, BlackBerry, and even Symbian). Google gave OEMs essentially a free OS that they could customize and access to an app store Google hosted and maintained. I'd guarantee that without Android, the number of smartphone OEMs would be a fraction of what it currently is.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 08:58

5. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3418; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


When you have a product that has the dominant market share, the rules change to protect consumers and other companies. If Android is shipped with uninstallable apps, the competition has a harder time getting a chance.
Same back then with Windows and built-in Iexplore. Only after Microsoft were forced to show users a browser choice did the use of other browsers really pick up.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 11:33 2

12. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4730; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


The difference between the Microsoft/IE incident and this is that MS wasn't allowing hardware OEMs to install any other search engines on their PCs. Whereas Google is only saying that they want their apps installed in addition to whatever the OEMs install. There's nothing stopping these OEMs from installing their own competing apps, or even making them the default, they only need to be present. That's the difference.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 02:35

19. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3418; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Not so sure Microsoft didn't allow a different search engine, but getting a PC with not windows was hard back then. And of course you can install the apps. The system ones will be there. Most users are okay with the apps onboard and dont look any further.

posted on 18 Jun 2017, 00:16

32. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4730; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


That was the whole crux of the lawsuit. They were preventing other competing search engines to he preloaded. I argued that Google isn't doing that here, only that their apps be included for Playstore access. But people on the other side of the argument said that no one's going to install apps if they're not already on the phone, so Google has a preferred position.

I always wondered, if end users aren't going to install different apps, then why do they need access to an app store?

posted on 18 Jun 2017, 11:10

33. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3418; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


There are more apps in the playstore than just Google app replacements.

posted on 19 Jun 2017, 08:12

34. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4730; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I know that. But they make it seem like end users either can't be bothered with or don't know how to download apps, yet they want access to an app store.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 10:52

10. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1264; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)


Have you ever used Google search,... it's a tad bogus. You don't get the best price search for product..... just The top highest paid advertiser search. Whoever pays the most gets priority query staging.....you The consumer loses because your search only brings prices of The highest payer to The top of The search results......

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 08:58

23. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


That's the idea of the open source software. Android is so popular because it's an open source code.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 09:07 3

7. Zylam (Posts: 1057; Member since: 20 Oct 2010)


I don't want Google to crumble and allow forked versions access to the play store. This is hurtful, don't know about the shopping service but I hope nothing comes of not allowing forked version access to play services.

We need to clean Android up and get back to the roots of this amazing OS, but can't do that when it's being ruined by Oems.

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 08:59

24. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Android is so big because it's open and has many skins. Your idea would kill it.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 10:01 4

8. TerryD (Posts: 53; Member since: 09 May 2017)


Go on Google, shut down your search engine in the EU for a week and let them rely on Bing

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 09:01 2

27. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


It would hurt Google much more than EU.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 10:44

9. gigicoaste (Posts: 101; Member since: 21 Feb 2016)


I cannot match the comments with the article. What has to do Google Shopping with free android or no Google play?? According to the article Google is influencing shoping searches.. am I right? Do I miss something? THX!

posted on 17 Jun 2017, 09:01 1

26. may_czos (Posts: 842; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


There are couple of charges. Fixing search results is one of them. Forcing OEMs to install Google's bloatware is another.

posted on 16 Jun 2017, 15:52 2

14. jove39 (Posts: 1953; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


This European Union BS has to stop. They are charging ransom from foreign companies operating in Europe.

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