Android 5.1 Lollipop brings non-trivial performance and efficiency improvements to the Nexus 6
1. frustyak (Posts: 205; Member since: 08 Mar 2010)
I hope the improvement in efficiency is real, because when I see "the device is now running full quad-core mode all the time" I think "battery drain". We'll see.
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You forgot to continue reading before posting a comment:
"This is where your performance gain comes from. As for the part about better efficiency, we're told that Google has disabled something called 'built-in thread migration routines' that helps your battery survive for longer."
5. walkman800 (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)
I think he read it, he's just doubting whether improved performance will outweigh every effort taken in improving battery efficiency.
22. ThePython (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 May 2013)
...and this is how you burn an internet smartass.
31. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
And this is how you look stupid. Optimizations = better battery life.
Please log off and educate yourself.
32. ThePython (Posts: 866; Member since: 08 May 2013)
Aw, how adorable. I'm well educated, thank you.
21. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4801; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Waiting for Chroma to update to Android 5.1. The developer said maybe this weekend! YES!!!!!
25. vincelongman (Posts: 4005; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Google has finally add Qualcomm's NEON drivers in 5.1
5.1 with encryption
5.1 without encryption
Before the CPU had to do the encryption/decryption, causing a big performance hit and battery drain
So it will probably have better battery life than before, even with it being quad-core all the time now
27. hung2900 (Posts: 944; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Not only that. By this way, Google bypasses the s**tty CPU hotplugging, which causes lags.
29. vincelongman (Posts: 4005; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Yea, most custom kernels have their own CPU hotplugs
Also there's one called Trinity kernel which also has all 4 cores enabled at once
But in my experience Franco's has the best battery life, it has 2 cores always enabled, with Franco's own hotplug
35. alvinl (Posts: 6; Member since: 28 Dec 2013)
i actually had my phone off the plug at 10:12am and got home at 12:56am not pm with 65% left. I have the nexus 5.
4. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10689; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Well let's hope Google ironed all of the nasty bugs out.
6. DefinitiveKid (Posts: 212; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Damn, just when I had made up my mind about not buying the N6 and waiting for the Galaxy S6...
7. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
The S6 will get the android 5.1 too, so your reason is useless.
8. DefinitiveKid (Posts: 212; Member since: 15 May 2013)
I know I know but still TW on top, which is the reason why I'm hesitating in the first place.
12. Andrew5190 (Posts: 46; Member since: 23 Oct 2014)
I'll admit I miss features of TW sometimes, but usually I remember how often I used them when I had them at my disposal, then I forget it.
But if you like Touchwiz, more power to ya! Choice is the best thing :)
15. Awalker (Posts: 1370; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
...in your opinion. A clean slate that I can add to is better than having a bloated slate in my opinion. It's the reason why I stop buying Samsung devices although I may get the S6 Edge only because I like the look of it.
37. DroidMystic (Posts: 78; Member since: 31 Oct 2014)
It's not useless be cause the Nexus 6 does have it now and I still be in advance on update. All depends on what he really want.
10. seven7dust (unregistered)
So is encryption still on and is it improved ! why can iPhones from 2011 and even Windows work with encryption but it slows down a Nexus ,I still don't get it ?
11. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
Apple used a separate chip for hardware based encryption since the 3Gs. So, the CPU doesn't have to do it.
For Nexus 6, it doesn't have a dedicated hardware to do it. Hence the CPU has to do it making it inefficient. In contrast, Nexus 9 is ARMv8 based and hence has hardware based encryption too.
Nexus 6 is an unfortunate device that got slower due to this.
13. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2650; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
To my understanding, the 805 has a crypt module but Google doesnt use it. Don't know why though.https://www.qualcomm.com/news/
16. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
Yeah, I also heard somewhere about that. But I don't think it's as efficient as ARMv8 one which has it embedded in the architecture itself.
But yeah, shame on google for not implementing it.
24. vincelongman (Posts: 4005; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Actually Google has finally add Qualcomm's NEON drivers in 5.1
5.1 with encryption
5.1 without encryption
There's still a minor performance hit, like you said its not as good as ARMv8
Here's some dicussion from r/nexus6
6/comments/2ytny6/nexus_6_51_i mproved_read_and_write_speeds_ with/
And post about it from the Franco kernel dev
33. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
Thanks for the information.
20. IT-Engineer (Posts: 50; Member since: 26 Feb 2015)
Android is catching up to it's Legend, mean while apple is 3 years behind.
17. yowanvista (Posts: 340; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
It also comes with the new v104 Adreno 420 drivers which bring full OpenGL ES3.1 support.
18. TheGunnyPT (Posts: 252; Member since: 12 Feb 2015)
Always nice to see any phone being boosted in performance, especially the Nexus 6 beast :D!
23. Tuxedo (Posts: 330; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
So Android now "needs 4 cores to run smoothly" ... same BS we get every year. Bet it wouldn't even run smooth on a high end Intel i7. There is just no way around s**tty code.
41. Nobodey (Posts: 75; Member since: 03 Jan 2010)
You are using quotation marks, but you aren't actually quoting any reliable source.
So i ask.. what source are you quoting?
I am only asking because I would hate to imply you are pulling this out of thin air..
26. outlawmold (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Mar 2015)
I think enabling of all 4 cores and disabling 'built-in thread migration routines' are both done to address battery drain. It may contribute to the performance but performance improvement can be result of other changes we are unaware of right now.
28. vincelongman (Posts: 4005; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Yea, there's a custom kernel called Trinity kernel that has been doing this for ages
30. guitarology (Posts: 2; Member since: 21 Feb 2015)
NEXUS 6 TMOBILE NYC- NO UPDATE YET
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN?????
42. TwerkLover84 (Posts: 13; Member since: 12 Jan 2015)
same here. TMOBILE Los angeles no update
44. guitarology (Posts: 2; Member since: 21 Feb 2015)
it's f**king ridiculous from east to west no update on Nexus 6
i think T-Mo is the culprit
45. TwerkLover84 (Posts: 13; Member since: 12 Jan 2015)
my model is refurbished replacement, how about you? (dropped my last nexus 6 one foot without a case, screen went blank)
36. Venan (Posts: 5; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)
Hi all, i have found bug in new 5.1 version. I installed 5.1 two days ago on my N5 and found that bug after 10 mins. When you install app from play store which has widget, it's not int the "widgets menu". It appears only after restart phone. Until then, there are only pre-installed widgets. Same situation after every new app with widgets. Can you please check if you have same problem/bug ? i tried factory reset several times, no difference. Another question is about leak memory bug.. I'm running without reboot about last 30 hours and i have already only 700 MB of ram left (630 system, 520 apps)... 630 MB for system after 30 hours, it sounds very familiar... is memory leak bug really fixed ? btw sorry for my bad english...
39. tokuzumi (Posts: 880; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
I guess the snapdragon 800 doesn't support this threading?
40. isprobi (Posts: 610; Member since: 30 May 2011)
I finally decided to try the latest pure Android experience and my Nexus 6 should arrive today (I hope). So I am looking forward to this update. But I must admit it will take allot to make me not miss my Sony Xperia Z Ultra.
43. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
flashed it last night. i'm using a Verizon SIM in mine and it just flies now.