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RIM loses 1 million subscribers in the latest quarter while revenue drops 48%

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RIM loses 1 million subscribers in the latest quarter while revenue drops 48%
Shares of Canadian handset manufacturer RIM are down nearly 9% after hours on Thursday after the company reported its third quarter earnings. While a 48% decline in revenue to $2.7 billion from last year's $5.2 billion is enough of a reason for the stock to decline, the major piece of bad news was that 1 million BlackBerry users left the platform during the quarter. That is the first time that BlackBerry lost subscribers over a quarter.

The sleek BlackBerry Z10

The sleek BlackBerry Z10

While the stock recently had showed some strength, after hours on Thursday, shares of RIM were down 8.99% to 12.85 after rising 3.6% during the day. Including a tax break, RIM made $9 million or 2 cents a share versus a profit of $265 million last year, or 51 cents a share. Removing the tax break and other non standard accounting results in RIM showing a $114 million loss for the three month period ended December 1st, which translates into a loss of 22 cents a share. Because analysts were looking for RIM to lose 35 cents a share, the report was considered to be stronger than expected. During the quarter, RIM shipped 6.9 million handsets and 255,000 BlackBerry PlayBook tablets. Company officials stressed that these devices were heavily discounted.

RIM had been able to make up losing customers in the U.S. with gains in other countries like Africa and India where BlackBerry is still considered a major name in smartphones. But the loss of 1 million users is a big negative for RIM as BlackBerry users generate cash flow for RIM each month from carriers. Some analysts seemed to be concerned by a comment made by CEO Thorsten Heins that hinted at changes in the way RIM receives fees from carriers with BlackBerry 10. Currently, these fees make up 36% of the company's revenue. Heins has said that the new phones will not benefit from the web compression technology which is the main thing that RIM provides to BlackBerry users.

BlackBerry fans will be happy to hear that instead of hoarding cash, CEO Heins said that the company will dig deep into its pockets to stockpile large inventories of the new BB10 handsets and will spend on advertising and marketing the new phones. RIM started the year with $2.1 billion in cash and Heins said that the company will have a higher cash balance at the end of the year.

source: NYTimes

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posted on 20 Dec 2012, 21:35 3

1. GoBears (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


They need to get BB10 released already. Can only stoke a fire so long until it dies out. R.I.P.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 21:40 3

2. metalpoet (unregistered)


COME ON RIM!!!!! Kick it into gear and just release some new sh*t already please!!! if Windows, Apple, Android, and Blackberry all bring their A game, then we can true have choices and see whos truly best!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:08 2

4. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


Is that REALLY a surprise?
No, no it's not.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:23

6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5624; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Somehow, I suspect the RIM fire is in the die-out phase already. Claiming to have more cash on hand at the end of the year after spending on advertising, inventory of handsets, etc. is the claim of the deluded. RIM are not Apple or Sammy. They will be lucky to have stopped the erosion in their subscriber base.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 03:32

16. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


the way they're goin I am not sure the company is gonna last till Jan 30th...official BB10 release date!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:04 1

3. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6274; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Yep TOO LITTLE too late RIM they either flock their way to ANDROID/Iphone. I'm going to bet when their BB10 launch next FEB or when ever month next year it will have a very dissappointing sale

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:25 2

7. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


i believe and think, assume Nokia and WP8 might be joining them?

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:37 2

9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5624; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Didn't you get the memo? Nokia has the best smartphone camera in existence with the L920. The L920 is going to single-handedly turn around Nokia's fortunes.

All they have to do is sell more than they can produce....

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 00:13

13. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


A camera can't be the only selling point, but the market for windows phone and Nokia is there. Just not growing rapidly like iPhone and android.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 00:46

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5624; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"Just not growing rapidly like iPhone and android."

That will be the epitaph when the post-mortem for Nokia is written. Same for RIM. iOS is proprietary to Apple, so that leaves Android as the viable option. Nokia thought they could build a niche presence in WP with a special relationship with MS. So far, the special relationship doesn't seem to have materialized. Nokia would have been better served to build on their camera competence within Android, but Elop didn't speak Android. RIM could have leveraged their messaging competence into an Android offering, but they too didn't speak Android. BB10 is facing too heavy a lift, IMO

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:16 1

5. Ramkumar (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


First chage the BB plans i dont know how they charge in other contries, i am from inida the rates are not reasonable for mid range people they r charging full axcess plan for 400 INR but if get android phones the internet plan starts from 101 INR and most of the people migrating to android phones ,so rim has to seriously think abou the BB plan to resonable rates then your device will be the best one..

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:34 2

8. MelvinPainter (Posts: 51; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Who wants to be associated with the phone used by the Kenyan dictator.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:51 2

10. bb.to.late (Posts: 3; Member since: 20 Dec 2012)


RIM is definitely RIP this time.

RIM sales in the U.S.A, Australia, UK, Singapore already almost none.
RIM sales in Korea, HK, China never good.

the sales number that RIM brag about (africa, indonesia, poor country) is the cheap BB, this people were comparing BB with their feature phone. Look at their income. their sales number drop about 10%, but income drop almost 50%?

BB10 WILL NOT be CHEAP.
and targeting the lost market to android.
RIM will have a hard time convincing the lost market to go back from android/iOS back to BB.

and africa, philipine, indonesia, other poor country would only buy BB10 in very small number.

BB is dead.

RIM should just move to android.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 22:55

11. bb.to.late (Posts: 3; Member since: 20 Dec 2012)


Anyone read the full announcement today?

RIM said... they might not get US$ 0 for monthly usage. but if customer want secure, they need to pay more.

translation...
you can use vanilla internet (not BIS - no security) with BB10, AND ALSO BIS (extra security).

good job.
if only RIM did this 5 years ago

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 23:01

12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5624; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Wasn't BB the handset of choice for aspiring terrorists? BBM was so secure that internal security in India, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and a bunch of other countries were going to ban BB sales unless RIM made it less secure. Didn't the Mumbai terrorists use BBM to communicate with their base back in Pakistan?

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 02:52 1

15. Rexperia (Posts: 100; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)


may you ''Rest In Motion''........

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 16:34

17. TangTung (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)


RIM is so 2008.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 03:41

18. bb.to.late (Posts: 3; Member since: 20 Dec 2012)


WRONG!
RIM is so 2005

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