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Nokia denies it is looking at Android
Forget it, forget it, forget it. No, no, no! Nokia's Media Relations fellow, Doug Dawson (no, he did not host Family Feud, that was RICHARD Dawson) emphatically put the kibosh on rumors that Nokia was taking a look at building hardware for the Android OS. What started the gossip was a job post in LinkedIn by the Finnish based handset manufacturer, seeking a "Principal Software Engineer, Embedded Linux Middleware," hiring someone to oversee "embedded Linux device software and hardware drivers for our exciting new products". Considering that the only Linux based major operating systems are Android and webOS, you can see how it would appear that Nokia had taken a sudden interest in the green robot.

Dawson puts the No in Nokia

Dawson puts the No in Nokia

On the other hand, we did point out that the listing could be for software engineers to help build a version of Nokia's HERE mapping app to Android. And as it turns out, that is exactly what Mr. Dawson revealed in a tweet that he send out on Sunday. Dawson said that the job listing is related to HERE Maps support for both Android and iOS and other platforms.

So all of you who had been hoping for an Android powered Nokia phone, forget it, at least for now. Nokia seems pretty content with Windows Phone, especially in light of the reception that the Nokia Lumia 920 has received so far.

source: @DougDawson via WMPoweruser

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posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:02 42

1. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


so keep going down

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 18:11 11

52. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


lol... android is not the world!! i will never live the world with all android!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 20:15 1

59. MeoCao (unregistered)


Android is different from other OSes, it can be forked. One quite successful example is Amazon.

That means Android will never be a closed and monopolistic force and any1 can "stand on the giant's shoulder" and make an even better thing.

SS is moving in that direction and we can see they have a lot of interesting features for their own versions of Android. Many more are trying to do the same but the results are not as good as SS.

Android = Freedom + Creativity
Not just for only Google, it's for every1.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 00:00 2

67. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


yeah, but still!!! i dont want to use android even a "forked" one!!!

and besides, linux is free... and technically android is not the only linux!! MeeGo is a linux and a PURE ONE!!! android isnt since it is just linux-base! i'll choose MeeGo anytime!! thats why i consider the decision of nokia about MeeGo a huge loss!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 22:14

62. Dr.Phil (Posts: 914; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


And Windows Phone is not the world either. Any phone manufacturer that is smart knows you should want to offer a variety of devices with different designs, hardware, and software. Nokia has made some success with WP8, but imagine how much more successful they would be if they offered Android devices as well.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 00:05 2

68. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


lol..did i say WP is the world?

all i want is choices!! and android is not the real choice for manufacturer!!

do you think other manufacturer that makes android as popular as samsung, sony etc?!

they are even stuggling!

even the "forked" android if kindle will die eventually after the 7" android of these companies will take off!

if they want linux, they better buy that jolla! since meego is there software!!! and meego is linux!

and im not rooting for WP actually..since the only differentiation of nokia is its apps and hardware! but i dont want them to go android!

and the very reason why i choose to continue my support over RIM and BlackBerry since they are giving choices fo people!

not everone will love android as you love it!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 02:19

73. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


you are clearly contradicting yourself... since when does rim offer choices?
nokia will be the one offering choices if they offer both wp8 and android. The only oem doing that is samsung

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 02:32 1

74. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


because most people want RIM to go android as well...that why i support them that they continue their own software! that all company should do!!!

just accept the fact that nokia will never go android!!!

it is stated there "Principal Software Engineer, Embedded Linux Middleware"

LINUX!!! and linux is not only android! again, its not even a pure one!!! linux is broad!! there's ubuntu, webOS, linux mint etc etc!!

and meego is linux!! a pure one! so if i where nokia, i'll take back meego and continue meego!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 04:00

80. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


no one cares whether android is pure linux. it's about the possibility of nokia going android.
also, you said you like rim because it provides choices. next you said that it's good for rim to stick with one os. please get your points coherent. you make a terrible debater.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 19:34 1

94. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


lol..people does care!!!

coz pure linux apps can run on any linuux OS! while android, you cant even run it on ubuntu!

"also, you said you like rim because it provides choices. next you said that it's good for rim to stick with one os."

by what i mean choice is that they stick to their own software..and that is the choice for people!! they give a choice that is not android! and that is BB10!

you just dont get it!!!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 01:53 3

72. Glim12808 (Posts: 393; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


yeah right, like motorola, LG, Sony are making tons of money from Android LOL! Even HTC is now scraping the bottom with their Android offerings! LOL!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 02:35 1

75. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


ikr!!!

these companies dont make much on android! even samsung will bet on WP as well since apple wont stop sung them!

about HTC... you know what they say, everything that on top will soon fall down...

but i'll add, the world is round! so its just rise and fall... if you're down, there's always a possibility that you'll rise back!

still hoping the major revamp of HTC will work!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 02:40

76. Dr.Phil (Posts: 914; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324556304578118360942919142.html

It seems like you are mistaken. Even HTC ranked better than Nokia in Q3 sales.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2012/10/03/nokia-may-sell-its-headquarters-to-raise-cash/

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 02:45

77. Dr.Phil (Posts: 914; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


Also, I never said they should go completely Android. I said they should offer their customers choices. Please read my comments twice before commenting because it appears you have an inability to comprehend what I am saying.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 18:16 5

54. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


Yea..they should at least release one or two android models to satisfy their fans who like android. Betting all of it on windows 8 is really risky, no?

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 19:02

56. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


IMO it was risky. But...if it pays off it will be better for them. I still say if other Android manufactures can do an Android and WP phone, so can they.

Its odd that Motorola and Nokia.....2 companies that really poineered phones, are not doing a phone for the other company. Moto has yet to do a WP phone and Nokia has no Android phones. Interesting...

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 20:05 1

58. raphz (Posts: 35; Member since: 22 Oct 2012)


yeah it's risky, but then again if you wanted to success you must escape from your safety zone, if you fail you dead, if you success it will be a big winner

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 03:41

78. Tones (Posts: 52; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


Very risky. Although i think MS are probably pushing them not to go Android. Big mistake imo. Android could really have turned Nokia around. Still very uncertain that windows phone will succeed.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 04:01

81. someones4 (Posts: 619; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


yeah..an os that's bound to succeed despite all of its critics. nokia didn't even give it a try.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 20:02

57. metalpoet (unregistered)


Damn if there was a Nokia Lumia Android id pay top bucks for that! :)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 20:28

60. MeoCao (unregistered)


I think Nokia can't afford to make WP8 look like a failed experiment, they have too much stake in it.

Nokia already has Android, it's Jolla. I believe Sail Fish is forked Android.

I think Nokia has to make Jolla independent to avoid violating the agreement with MS.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 06:00 1

86. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


Sailfish = based on Linux kernel
Android = just has a Linux base (modified kernel, the lag is part of this, not optimised 'yet')

Android:

Kernel type => Monolithic (modified Linux kernel)
Package manager => Google Play, APK

Sailfish:

Kernel type => Monolithic (Linux)
Package manager => RPM Package Manager (same as the one seen on Red Hat, Fedora etc.)

Sailfish is NOT Android, Its LINUX...!!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:13

64. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


I feel depressed cuz of my life (cuz of my family, Specifically dad, of course!!)

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 00:10

69. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


Nokia with WP 8 results are going up.....can't you see.....

No need of android .......Nokia is doing good with WP OS...

Nokia Lumia 920 pre-orders are matching up with..Apple iPhone 5...in Netherland

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:04 26

2. kirholstov (Posts: 136; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


:( it would be great to see a nokia android phone

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 22:36 1

63. CellieCell (Posts: 85; Member since: 14 Apr 2010)


blackberry should definitely be the company jumping on the band wagon! they're playbook already runs android apps.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:04 14

3. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Oh but it is expected response they can keep peeing in the pockets to feel the warmth of windows phone:)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:34 3

10. jroc74 (Posts: 4931; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This is why CEO's, execs really need to watch what they say. I dont think they will ever live that comment down.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:07 8

4. husfus (Posts: 62; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)


It's good to focus on a single platform & bring r&d works into the os

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:09 17

5. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


And they will keep going down in flames ......

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:15 10

6. Aeires (unregistered)


Nokia already looked into Android and came to the conclusion WP would be a better fit. I would surmise Samsung's success with Android had a big impact in that decision. Has Nokia forever closed the door to an Android option? I don't think so, just not the right time for them right now.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:10 6

40. Dagonet (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)


It would be better for them to use Sailfish… i don’t want to see a Android OS on Nokia phone.. Nokia is a premium quality product.. Android would ruin it.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:16 7

7. tombcd (Posts: 12; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Too bad for them. Now they have to bow to Microsoft for every single feature they need. With Android they just could build everything in-house. You can't be effective that way. Nokia + WP will fail.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:59 5

26. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Really? Then explain the L920 and its worldwide shortage and popularity.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:45 2

50. Bernoulli (Posts: 1451; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


So was the L900 and we know how pathetic those sales were, their overall sales of the lumia 900, 710, 800, and 610 still stayed behind symbian, at a point where symbian was being phased out, so don't come with the crap that the lumia 920 is on a shortage world wide, I'd personally prefer the original 808 pureview instead of crappy widows OS

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 17:29 2

51. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Hmm ... never read that their servers were also crashing during online ordering.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:17 11

8. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Nokia Nexus sounds pretty exciting...

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:10 2

39. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


certainly. just imagine that nokia with own android UI and 920 design it would be fantastic :')

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:24 1

9. JohnnyBravo (Posts: 105; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)


Nokia phones are simply not relevant in the states. They seem to be built pretty nice but a little too chunky for my liking. I believe for them to make a dent in the states that they will have to adopt Android. Can you imaging Jelly Bean on a Nokia phone?! (picture the guy in the samsung iPhone 5 headphone jack commercial...mind blown!)

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 13:56 7

14. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Why cant you android fanboys get it into you skulls that not everyone wants to loose themselves in the grey ocean that is android. Go nokia!

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:05 10

15. Aeires (unregistered)


That's not it at all, we just want some of that quality. If you really believe in Nokia, you wouldn't believe they'd get lost in the sea of Android. I believe in Nokia and think they'd do very well with Android. It's just easier for them to dominate with WP8 right now.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:24 2

19. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


exactly. he knows nokia can't stand out so he's scared.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:32 2

21. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 855; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Not really, Nokia can stand out they have quite a good reputation and their build quality is top notch, i would love to see Nokia Android phones, right now if we want top notch materials and construction and Android under the hood we only have HTC, Motorola (which is only influent in the US) and Sony.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:09 5

38. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


maybe Nokia can stand, but most people when u say Android, Samsung is what goes in their mind. so Nokia will not have cash flowing the moment they adopt the Android OS. WP is the safer choice for Nokia, and lets not forget the cash coming from Microsoft. if i were Nokia -and i think you will also- go for WP, if you have some cash coming, instead of paying to have the OS.

i would go for an Android-Nokia device, but not everyone would.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:22

31. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


What's wrong with Samsung? GS3 and note2 are good ultra popular devices. And the 13 MP GS4 is coming.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:12

42. Dagonet (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)


hahahahaha

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:41

49. -box- (Posts: 3816; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


With that in mind, food for them to make a name for themselves with Windows Phone, then if (though unlikely) they decide to take on Samsung for Android dominance they'll have a steady solid platform and foundation to go off of. Neither Nokia nor Samsung care much about apple, as their focus is on each other, much like how Ford goes against gm, or Honda vs Toyota, or Canon vs Nikon. Everything else battles for the next available position.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:47 3

22. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Making at least one good android device is not "loosing one self in a sea of Android" elop came with that as an excuse for not trying at all. They will just loose themselves in a sea of windows phone, end up competing with even a possible surface phone, being limited to customization they can perform. If something is making others successful is the fact that they are not riding one boat, its Nokia fault for not trying when they had the chance, or for not trying right now, many people would buy a 910 esque phone if it came with Android, they can do so much with the OS without leaving windows phone

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:50

23. xuerantiger (Posts: 10; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


nokia should at least try android to get noticed a little more

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 14:57 3

24. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Better luck next time fan boys.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:20 1

29. networkdood (Posts: 6273; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


A nokia built phone would be awesome - probably the best camera quality in the biz. I sure a WP8 Nokia phone can be hacked to run android.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:21 1

30. networkdood (Posts: 6273; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


As for that idiot who uses BING...I really feel sorry for you.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 15:54 10

34. Jyakotu (Posts: 821; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)


I'm sorry, but from a business standpoint, Android was just not the way for Nokia to go. Sure Windows Phone is young, but at the same time, that gave Nokia an edge. The Lumia devices have recieved critical acclaim from users and critics alike. Nokia is showing other WP OEMs how it's done: great hardware + exclusive apps/features = a unique OEM WP experience.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 23:46

66. MeoCao (unregistered)


WP gives Nokia and edge within WP, yes

But WP sucks and Nokia is like a good sailor in a sinking ship.

Nokia knows that and it has built a life boat from Android, it's called Jolla's Sail Fish.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 06:00

85. bon24x7 (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


Sailfish is NOT Android, Its LINUX...!!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 13:14

90. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


MeeGo is not Android, and its not a fork of Android, they are two different OSes, MeeGo is pure Linux, and Android is a modified Linux

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 13:27

91. asseek (Posts: 164; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


MeeGo is a continuation of Maemo 5, which is a whole newer version of OS2008 (N810) which started in 2005 with OS2005 (Nokia 770) so MeeGo is not Android

and if u want to read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:09 3

37. Dagonet (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)


It would be better for them to use Sailfish… i don’t want to see a Android OS on Nokia phone.. Nokia is a premium quality product.. Android would ruin it.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 16:33 1

47. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1235; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Then I take back what I said about buying a Nokia device if it was running Android.

posted on 02 Dec 2012, 18:12 1

53. MC1123 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


they will not and they will never!!!

but android is not the only linux!! duh!! its not even pure linux!!!

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