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Next Apple iPhone once again said to drop 3.5mm headphone jack for thinner forms

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Look ma, no headphone jack!

Look ma, no headphone jack!


The next Apple iPhone might indeed drop the ubiquitous 3.5mm headphone jack and give consumers the option to use the Lightning port for their head gear, or use wireless headphones. We've been hearing this rumor over and over again, first from Japanese blog Mac Otakara, seconded by 9to5Mac, and now FastCompany's Mark Sullivan says it has inside sources that also confirm this.

Skipping the 3.5mm headphone jack in the new iPhone (allegedly, the iPhone 7) will make it possible for Apple to make the device even thinner and sleeker looking. The company is also reported to be adding wireless, magnetic charging capabilities to its next iPhone, and it could also make it waterproof.

So how credible is this particular rumor? Daring Fireball's John Gruber was quick to dissect it and point out that despite FastCompany's respected name as a source, Sullivan himself has a spotty record with Apple. The journalist wrongly said that Apple was working with Swatch to release its smartwatch, a partnership that seems to have never taken place.

Thinner, waterproof, with wireless charging

There are also a few strange predictions in this particular report. Firstly, the report claims that Apple will most likely not include any headphones with the new iPhone and sell Lightning port-connected headphones separately. So far, every iPhone has been sold with a pair of earbuds, so that would be a very atypical move for Apple.

The second alarming suggestion that deviates from Apple's typical style is about the possibility of the company bundling a 3.5mm headset adapter in the box of the new iPhone. Apple is known for being the first to make radical changes like dropping CD/DVD players, but at the same time, the company has so far never provided adapters to the old standard in the box. Instead, it is selling such adapters separately (and usually for a considerable price).

With these red flags in mind, one should take this report - or at least some parts of it - with a grain of salt. With so much smoke about Apple dropping the 3.5mm headphone jack, though, there might be actual fire and what is considered a wild proposition might actually become a reality this fall. The motivation for Apple would certainly be improved audio quality, as well as less of an entanglement with wires and an incentive to switch to a truly wireless future. That's something the company has pushed with its new, 12" Macbook (it does have a 3.5mm jack, though), and it seems logical for the company to continue with this in 2016.

Would the lack of a 3.5mm headset jack in a phone be a dealbreaker for you? Let us know your thoughts about all this in the comments section.

source: FastCompany

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posted on 08 Jan 2016, 03:55 34

1. EcoCare (Posts: 357; Member since: 30 Jul 2014)


Dumb Apple.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:02 2

23. KyleRiemen (Posts: 112; Member since: 29 Oct 2014)


Actually not a big issue. Just put that adapter on your headphone jack and leave it there.
But i dont see the benefit of going thinner and thinner, and more lightweight. The bigger a phone is, the harder it is to encompass it and you start to balance the phone on your hand, but for balancing you need a certain amount of weight and grip.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:39 1

37. Ahovking (Posts: 628; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


There is nothing dumb about ditching the headphone jack.. it is a industry standard, yes but so was CD/DVD players.

Current headphone jack are analog and have their limitations.. having a digital headphone jack would not only allow the potential of handling larger amounts of information faster but also allow information to travel both ways leading to potentially a interesting opportunity for headphone makers

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:56 29

45. razraptre (Posts: 168; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


Dude, what do you even smoke? Audio files are stored in digital, and converted to analogue. Every device needs a digital-to-analogue converter, or at least the headset needs one inbuilt.
We can't 'hear' digital signals bruh xD

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 06:42 7

59. Switch00 (Posts: 368; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


001110011000? 0111? 011101011!!!

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 07:26 2

63. HASHTAG (unregistered)


Industry standard? How so? What other phones do you see that doesn't have a headphone jack?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 12:02

102. azimesmail (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Nov 2014)


He meant that headphone jacks are industry standard, but so were CD/DVD players/drives and now they're not.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 12:18

107. frydaexiii (Posts: 1425; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


They were an industry standard like 6-7 years ago, way before the smartphone era. I remember using a Sony Ericsson W850 and having to use a stupid converter to use my own headphones instead of the ones provided. And chargers had an extra slot at the bottom of the charging port just in case you wanna listen to music while the phone was charging.

Nice to see Apple trying to bring technology back 7 years.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 13:25 3

109. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


I hope they fail this time.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 16:00

136. BradyCrack (Posts: 451; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Every comment is pure hate on Apple lol

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 16:47

139. Diezparda (Posts: 824; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)


Pure hate? are you simply justifying their decission?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 21:55

143. BradyCrack (Posts: 451; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


Sorry was talking about hexa-core.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 17:14

141. Mr.Z. (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 08 Jan 2016)


I hope it goes bankruptcy.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 10:22 6

82. tedkord (Posts: 9949; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It absolutely is dumb. It's going backwards. Smartphones used to use the power port as an all inclusive port. My Samsung Omnia did. It sucked then, it sucks now.

CD/DVD didn't disappear, they were replaced with an updated version, bluray, which is not only the same form factor, but is totally backwards compatible.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:02

113. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Your second paragraph is very true. But no one has created such while the standard headphone jack exists. If they really wanted to make audio better, they could have still came up with the concept already.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 09:28

75. medtxa (Posts: 1105; Member since: 02 Jun 2014)


Non standard thing and adapters is hassle and a big issue. Thin and lightweight is preferable for smatphone. And your talking BS about balancing phone on hand.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 09:40 1

76. tokuzumi (Posts: 880; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


Why is thin preferable for a smartphone? Thin just makes the phone harder to hold onto. Also, a device with a little weight to it actually feels like it has higher quality.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 11:05 5

94. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


And thin phones are prone to bend more easily.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:03 1

114. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


No Samsung phones. Only those iPhones. lol

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:35 15

35. AnTuTu (Posts: 1575; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


And they will then sell a headphone adapter for $99

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 12:03 1

104. azimesmail (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Nov 2014)


The rumours suggest that it'll be included with the phone. They're gonna give the same earpods as they do now, but with a lighting to 3.5mm adapter included in the box.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:04

115. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Which would be stupid because the digital signal is being turned into an analog one. May as well leave it the same. Right?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 22:09

148. azimesmail (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Nov 2014)


Depends what they're trying to do. I'll hold off condemning them until we actually see the device.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:24

124. marorun (Posts: 2930; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Thats would be a good move but they need to include free of charge an adaptor thats permit charging at the same time as using headphone.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 22:09

147. azimesmail (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Nov 2014)


I agree, maybe they'll add wireless charging?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 06:40

58. Switch00 (Posts: 368; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


It's like going back to the caves. AAAAAArgh!!!

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 09:56 1

78. cncrim (Posts: 791; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Hey moving forward, it could be good feature haven't prove itself. History have prove us change is good so need to think outside of the box.

Take a look at BB dis original iphone than what happen to them? another one is Nokia.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 10:23 3

83. tedkord (Posts: 9949; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


History had proven that change can be either good or bad. In this case, it's bad.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:24

125. marorun (Posts: 2930; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Apple been dissing android and the oem thats make them for years now.

See where i am going with this?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 03:56 33

2. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1030; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Seriously Apple, STOP THIS STUPID THINNESS TREND NONSENSE.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:42 2

14. techperson211 (Posts: 1163; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


This is not going to be good for fruity. Oh well they're a billion dollar company.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:00 7

21. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


This will cause more fragility in their iPhone, hence quicker consumers' uprage cycle.

The limnest trend is crappy.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:51 9

18. shahrooz (Posts: 702; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


we all know why they are doing this, don't be naive.
PS: there are already thinner smartphones than iPhones with 3.5mm jack.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:07 7

24. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Yeah, but iPhans can't see why.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 17:15

142. Mr.Z. (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 08 Jan 2016)


Beca6they are dump.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:39

38. Ahovking (Posts: 628; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)


Its not just Apple, and i totally agree... it has to stop.. i don't want to be walking around with a "smart paper"

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 07:59

66. xondk (Posts: 1141; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Other companies seem to have stopped if rumour about this years phones are correct, so lets hope this whole "thinner thinner thinner" thing stops. Use the extra space for bigger battery or whatnot, add more features, phones are fine in terms of thickness, heck I would say they are getting too thin to grip properly at this rate.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:05 25

3. Dr.SamX (Posts: 152; Member since: 19 Jan 2015)


Yes, please make it thinner so it will have an even smaller battery and will bend more easily!

The sad thing is, people will be stupid enough to by it...

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:16 2

5. Saioofi (Posts: 237; Member since: 23 May 2014)


Smaller battery does not mean worse battery life. Take the 6S as an example. It's all about the OS optimization

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:23 4

9. Iodine (Posts: 1285; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Yeah exactly, the 6S went thicker with smaller battery.
#3
So why couldn't also go thinner with bigger battery ? It already happened.

Also why it couldn't get thinner and stronger ?
iPhone 6S brought up custom 7000 series aluminium, iPhone 7 can bring an alien alloy turning bending into gesture commands and battery charge.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:28

128. marorun (Posts: 2930; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Why not dont make it thinner and use bigger battery ?
Why make it thinner and use better alloy when you can keep it same thickness and use better alloy to make it even stronger?

Because we dont need thinner we need bigger battery and more durable device thats all.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:06

116. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Or hardware optimization.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:26

126. marorun (Posts: 2930; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


No its not its all about making the best of both hardware and software optimisation.

Bigger battery with same quality optimisation = longer battery life.

we dont need smaller battery EVER.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:28 1

12. rubyonrails3 (Posts: 242; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)


Everyone does this. Samsung also does this iPhone is for iOS users and galaxy for Android. People are not stupid but it's you who think they are stupid.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:17 3

28. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


"Samsung also does this iPhone is for iOS users and galaxy for Android"

Really? Does Samsung make iPhones?
WTH are you talking about!

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 10:10

80. cncrim (Posts: 791; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Why call people stupid? it is their money they buy whatever they want, average people want thin, Apple give them that and that's how she make billion profit.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:08 2

117. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Yes it is their money. Doesn't make it any less stupid how they spend it.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:54 1

133. marorun (Posts: 2930; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Ppl dont want thinner its marketing thats make you want stuff you dont really want.

Just look at publicity and how reviewer are all biased.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 16:55

140. Diezparda (Posts: 824; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)


Must agree with this one, my iPod already so thin and small too what i need is something to grip and i'd be happy if they put bigger batteries inside.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:15

4. Tuga_Peter (Posts: 11; Member since: 27 Oct 2014)


I don't know what is happening with Apple!!! But i think they will lose money with they bad decisions.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:17 1

6. Raito (Posts: 56; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


If you dont like it,dont buy it,nuff said!!seriously,why do you criticise Apple's decision when in reality you're Android/WM user??strange ...

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 15:09 1

118. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7921; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Because then everyone else will do it and we don't want them too. THAT"S WHY!!! Ever thought of that?

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:18 1

7. Iodine (Posts: 1285; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Just wondering how incerdibly thin it's going to be.

Less than 6,9mm for sure. My bet is 6,4 6+4= 10 (the tenth iPhone) but 6,1 would give 6+1=7 and 6,1 looks like their favourite thickness for now (iPod, iPad) it's so exciting to wait. We will see what the future holds in that number.

For a reasonable limit I would put 6,1 mm, but I would be extremely nicely surprised if they could manage to go beyond that and make the thinnest iPhone, iOS device, smartphone, phone, device and thing ever !!!! 5,8 sounds so nice !

Then very important question, if the new Plus iPhone will have the same, or different thickness, seems strange it ended up being thicker than regular iPhone. But iPad Pro is also thicker than regular iPad.

Can't wait to see the thinnest thin and super-est super-phone.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:25 9

10. Feanor (Posts: 663; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


...
For comments like this I wish that Phonearena hadn't cancelled the Thumbs Down button...
So according to you the thickness of the phone should have something to do with its name...?
Also explain the benefit of even thinner device, please.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:31

13. Iodine (Posts: 1285; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Make your own bet if you don't like.

And isn't it obvious ?
A thinner device is better than the regular smartphones others are doing.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:50 9

17. Feanor (Posts: 663; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


It's really not obvious. If you can fit a 2500mAH battery in a thin device, you can fit a 3000 one with 1mm thicker device. Also look at the camera sticking out on your beloved iPhone; you cannot shrink the tech any further without losing in quality or your next iPhone will have the camera hump being as thick as the phone itself.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 10:18

81. medtxa (Posts: 1105; Member since: 02 Jun 2014)


I don't think 1mm is gonna make that much difference. If you like battery so much why don't you buy a Lenovo or those chinesse phone with 5000mAh battery? Well Motorola phone sure have the same high spec but it's thicker as well. The s6+ or note5 are thinner but have better battery life all around better, thats what make the phone impresive.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 04:55 4

19. belovedson (Posts: 975; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


He is entitled to say whatever he pleases. Besides i am a iphone 6 user as well as a nexus.

i am unsure if there are any power users for the iphone. each iphone i have used has atrocious battery life and the lack of background application support is annoying.

posted on 08 Jan 2016, 05:21 7

29. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Atrocious battery life, despite it's much lower screen resolution versue Android competitors.

posted on 09 Jan 2016, 00:47

150. belovedson (Posts: 975; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


i wouldn't say all that. apple is technically better at managing, and throttling performance to save battery life. in fact some things are so annoying most apple users don't take it for granted.

for example samsung phones usually dont turn off while your staring at screen for more than 5 minutes.

apple forces one to interact with the phone to keep it active.

but push come to shove apple is good at managing battery life. despite it the tiny battery has its limits when a power user like myself is interacting with it

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