Motorola might look into all that Windows Phone thing, if it proves successful
The issue is that Motorola would like a buddy-buddy status with Microsoft, similar to what Redmond is giving Nokia. Also, Motorola's CEO pointed out that the company is waiting it out to see which will be the number three mobile OS after the juggernauts Android and iOS.
He commented that only one out of WP, webOS and BlackBerry OS will survive and occupy the third place, since the market is becoming overly fragmented. Sanjay Jha also noted that patentwise Motorola is pretty much covered since it has been in the cell phone business for so long, and this can be a good advantage over the other Android manufacturers, which are being sued left and right for patent infringements.
1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
"Motorola's CEO pointed out that the company is waiting it out to see which will be the number three mobile OS after the juggernauts Android and iOS.
He commented that only one out of WP, webOS and BlackBerry OS will survive and occupy the third place, since the market is becoming overly fragmented"
Hang on a second, he forgot about bada and MeeGo.
My predictions are that bada will take the third place.
2. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
Only if Samsung decides to expand it and license it out to other devalopers.
5. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I agree that Samsung needs to come with more high en phones with bada, but license it to others ?
No dont think they will need to do that. If samsung only selle bada phones and sell like 19 million of them every quarter, that would take the third spot.
14. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
nope, they have increase their market share since last year.
In france they have 9.6 % market share right now.
12. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I totally respect your support to Bada. Worldwide, it may be in the running for for being a solid OS. But I doubt Bada competes in the US or some of the other international markets. W7 is in a much better position to compete in the US and North American market where Microsoft is based. It has a strong money-stream from Android devices due to it's patent settlements. It is also going to have a worldwide name advantage as soon as Nokia starts pumping out W7 devices where Nokia has been king for so long.
Plus, even though Samsung is a giant, that whole idea of maintaining software and hardware has proven very tough to maintain for a company. Ask Nokia and Blackberry. Even Apple has slowed down to a crawl in updating it's software while trying to improve it's hardware, as there is a longer and longer wait between iPhones. Bada has a long way to go in it's ecosystem. Same problem with WeBOS.
20. dipereira0123 (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Jul 2011)
same problem eith symbian too, i really like it, but it have not enought support and nokia seens to only care about U.S. need and they go for WPMango, i dont mind about android but its not really optimized as should be, i dont recomend android for an ordinary user, but symbian, bada and meego are greatly recomended also WPmango, but Microsoft really need to work on the tiles desing, the solid colors, no background its like a hole on te screen theres just something lacking, i really dont want a phone without a homescreen and some widgets, thats why i like symbian, and bada for me is something between symbian and android
IOS for dummies ^^
3. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I do think that at the moment WP7 is far more stable and intuitive than Android. Their operation is reasonably smooth and I think they deserve more.
4. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Wp7 has advantage over the other OSs because it takes the best out of iOS and Android, that's the reason why WP7 has so much potential.
6. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
uhh no, thats not right. WP7 does not take the best out of IOs and Android.
But if you look at bada, you will see that it has the best from Android and from IOS.
13. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
W7 has a very high standard for universal hardware. As a result, the software can be updated and improvements to flaws in the devices can be sent and created quickly and (usually) efficently. They have very strong security standards for their apps and software, and are on top of any complaints from users. It is also very user friendly, requiring very little instruction to understand. Very similar to Apple.
With Mango, each manufacturer is going to be able to add a little something to make it stand out against other W7 manufacturers. The live tiles are customized to your preference. While there isn't the level to Android yet, there is a movement to allow a personal touch like Google allows.
I have never SEEN a Bada driven device, much less used one. I will take your word it has these type of strengths as well. But I am excited for the direction of W7. It is an easy OS to like.
16. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
You should check som videos of bada, search on youtube for bada 2.0.1 and you can see som videos of the upcoming bada update. It is awesome, i recomend you watch it.
And for security, bada is very secure. You can only download apps from Samsungapps, where they have strict testing of apps.
23. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
Except for the abysmal amount of useful applications
27. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
There is about 6100 Apps available right now, and most of them are very useful and of high quality beacuse Samsung has strict quality controls. Android on the other hand has lots of fart apps and other silly apps. Out of the hundreds of thousands of apps for android only maybe 5000 of them are usefull.
But with bada you get 6000 usefull apps. You have for example Picsel Smart Office, Skymap, sport tracking apps, lots of HD games from Gameloft and EA (like Brothers in arms, sandstorm, Splinter Cell conviction, Gangstar, the settlers, monopoly, the sims 3...) + thousands of more very usefull apps.
I think you should check outwww.samsungapps.com before you say anything.
Just checked your profile and see that you have the wave. Have you checked samsungapps lately then, beacuse there are alot of usefull apps, especially if you do some searching.
7. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
I haven't really seen bada, but I can tell that wp7 takes the best out of iOS and Android, I've seen tons of videos on youtube. WP7 has the best application store (Market place), the best multimedia player (zune), the best stock picture gallery, the best Messaging and IM integration, the best game integration (Xobx live), and a lot more stuff. the only problem is the lack of apps but that's ok, the market place is growing faster than any other application store.
I've played with android phones and the iphone 4 and they're really good but WP7 is different and unique.
17. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Then i recomend you search on youtube for bada 2.0.1 and check it out. it is an awesome update coming to bada in september. I recomend you watch it.
21. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
The Bada 2.0.1 looks like pure s**t. I just watched 5 videos and they look like a 90's version of Atari on a phone. It looks almost identical to Android, but Android blends together much better. This is garbage. Sorry, but it SUCKS. You buy a Samsung galaxy phone if you want anything that looks like that.
24. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Haha, how can you say anything like that ?
the videos of bada 2.0.1 is of a beta version, and beta versions are often buggy and slow.
Wait till you see the final version of bada 2.0.1 and you will regret what you said.
30. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Because that is exactly what it looks like. You told us to go to YouTube and check it out and I did. It looks stupid. If it changes I might pay more attention to it, but until then, stop favoring it.
31. corporateJP (Posts: 1205; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Talk about "fanboy".
Brother, the Bada OS isn't even a player in the game.
Might be one day, but right now, it's Single-A baseball, at best.
8. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
MS has a lot going for it, but can it do so when Apple/Android hold 70% of the market?
Its not like Android, times have changed. There was a huge vaccum for touch, consumer focused smartphones.
Now that vaccum is not nearly as large and competition is fierce.
If MS can quickly integrate WP7 into the businesses, they might have a chance at something more then 3rd place... a distant 3rd I might add.
9. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5169; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
MS is going to have to start moving more WP7 handsets. 600,000 in a quarter is not a number to be proud of. And it certainly won't make the business case for Moto, as that was the total for all WP7 handsets from all mfrs.
15. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Very, very true. Even a W7 supporter like me knows 2012 needs to be a breakout year for Microsoft, or the future becomes very dim for them.
26. Eingild (Posts: 203; Member since: 19 Apr 2011)
WP7 fared way much better than Android when the latter is still on it's early years. 2-3 years from now, It will be the most stable and reliable OS ever
28. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
WP7 is actually one of the most buggy and unstable OSes ive ever tried (and ive tried Android, bada, Symbian, WP7. Ive even tried IOS in the shops.)
10. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)
"Sanjay Jha also noted that patentwise Motorola is pretty much covered since it has been in the cell phone business for so long, and this can be a good advantage over the other Android manufacturers, which are being sued left and right for patent infringements."
Uhm, HTC has been making smartphones for a much greater length of time than Apple and that did not stop Apple from sueing them and from being successful so far in thier legal efforts against HTC.
25. jroc74 (Posts: 3647; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I dont think HTC has as many patents as Motorola. After Sense UI and their recent purchase of S3 Graphics....I dont know what else HTC has patents for...
29. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)
I don't know wither, and I doubt that they had foresight to patent everything under the sun, unlike Apple...
32. Forsaken77 (Posts: 542; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
You're forgetting who the very FIRST cell phone was from... Motorola. At least one of the first few, if not the very first. Motorola started the cell phone game back in the day. So I'm pretty sure they have an enormous patent portfolio. Most hardware developers are probably paying royalties to Motorola in some form or another. Moto prolly has the patent for communicating on a portable device... meaning everyone has to pay them lol.
34. corps1089 (Posts: 492; Member since: 20 Jan 2010)
you are correct the first cell phone [not smart phone] was Motorola: DynaTAC 8000X. They do have a ton of patents, but thier patent efforts have been steadily declining for years and anything older than 10 yrs if fair game for all in the market to use.
18. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Would love to see Motorola put out a line of W7 devices. I really like Motorola hardware. I think the last two years have seen some great efforts from them. If we choose to go with Sprint or Verizon when we get new toys in November, I have a Android back-up plan if I do not like the W7 devices on those carriers at the time. The Photon on the Now Network and all the high end Moto's on Big Red are on that short list. I think they could put out fantastic Mango flavored stuff ....
33. lubbalots (unregistered)
You're either in or out. There's no sitting and waiting. That's bad business. Besides how will something grow if you don't support it. That Sanjackass just pisses me off. Will never buy a motorola product ever, nor sony.
35. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 548; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)
it will only benefit Moto to run WP variants... DUH!