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Motorola chief: Samsung could follow Nokia and BlackBerry to become less relevant in the smartphone market

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Motorola chief: Samsung could follow Nokia and BlackBerry to become less relevant in the smartphone market

Last quarter (its first as a Lenovo company), Motorola sold more than 10 million smartphones - an impressive 118% increase year-on-year. Lenovo is confident that Motorola can return to profitability in 4 to 6 quarters, and, for this to happen, it needs to re-expand its global presence. One of the important steps that Motorola is taking in this regard is a return to the Chinese market. As we already told you, Motorola is launching the Moto G, Moto X and Moto X Pro in China, and there are already signs that the Moto X will be successful there.

Of course, Motorola will face fierce competition from Apple, Samsung, and local players like Xiaomi. But Motorola COO Rick Osterloh believes that the company has a chance at becoming as relevant as the industry's largest players.

Forbes recently interviewed Rick Osterloh, who said that his company's strength lies in the fact that it offers "an alternative to other premium brands at a much better value."

“Every seven years, the person who’s been on top of the market has gone away. We are going through one of those fascinating shifts where people are starting to realize that you don’t need to pay $600 for a top-tier phone to get a top-tier experience,” said Rick Osterloh.

According to Forbes, Osterloh implied that, after Nokia and BlackBerry lost their top positions in the global smartphone market, Samsung might be next.

While being owned by Google, Motorola restricted its smartphone business to only 10 markets. Now it's active in about 50 countries, and plans to re-enter other 10 or 15 this year. Speaking of this year, Motorola should soon introduce a Snapdragon 810-powered flagship handset that's reportedly smarter than smartphones. Successors to the Moto G and Moto E are expected to arrive in the near future as well.

What do you think, is Motorola's future a bright one?

source: Forbes

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posted on 07 Feb 2015, 00:02 23

1. wildhammer (Posts: 56; Member since: 16 Mar 2014)


Damn it seems possible to me. But i dont samsung to go away. They always brought something to the table........

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 00:32 19

7. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)


Sure, Samsung used to brought something exciting to the table, but their mobile devices are starting to lack the wow factor. They did change, but not much. Judging from the leaks of the S6, it just doesn't live up to their so-called "designed from scratch".

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 00:59 33

14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Pretty sure the same can apply to the company behind your avatar.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 01:28 29

23. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)


Yeah, you're right. But what's your point? The "company behind my avatar" didn't say they will "design from scratch".

So basically, you made a point that wasn't nessecary but to drag "the company behind my avatar" to my point, so Sammy won't feel lonely. Pretty funny and useless I gotta say.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 05:14 10

59. Kumar123 (Posts: 447; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)


There is no point of his comment it's just that PapaSmurf didn't get his bonus from samsung because of S5 sells lower than expected. And since S5 and Z2 announced at the same time he blames Z2 and Sony for all the bad press Samsung get for S5 and that lead him believe that Sony/Sony fans are to blame for not getting his bonus. He used to troll on Sony articles because of his job but after he did not get his bonus he made it personal. Expect more cheap shoot from him directed towards Sony/Sony's phones in the following months.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:14 13

65. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


You're dense. The Z2 with a more premium design, he'll even the Z3 didn't even sell 1/5 of what the S5 did. Studies from last year showed Samsung ranked #1 ahead of Apple for customer satisfaction. Where was Sony? Let me know. Don't let your anger out on me because you're beloved company is struggling to get known and make profit each quarter.

Btw, if I work for Samsung, explain how I'm using an iPhone 6 Plus. I'll wait.

I'll see you trolls at the S6 and Z4 announcement and I'll see what kind of fanboy comments you'll post.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:50 8

80. Kumar123 (Posts: 447; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)


1. "Don't let your anger out on me because you're beloved company is struggling to get known and make profit each quarter." - LOL, the company's phone i'm using (iphone 5s) right now beats world record in quarterly profits. The last Sony phone i used was Xperia P.

2. "The Z2 with a more premium design, he'll even the Z3 didn't even sell 1/5 of what the S5 did" - no one said Z2 or Z3 outsold S5 but surely Z2 and Z3 eat a lots of S5 providential sell.

3. "Studies from last year showed Samsung ranked #1 ahead of Apple for customer satisfaction. Where was Sony? Let me know" - So basically American customer satisfaction now equals to the whole worlds customer satisfaction. Wow, you're analytic skill is amazing, you're very smart. (i'm being sarcastic in case you dumb brain can't pick up what i'm saying.)

4. " Btw, if I work for Samsung, explain how I'm using an iPhone 6 Plus. I'll wait." - There is absolutely no way to confirm that you're using a iPhone, You're using this phase "i'm using iphone" as a Camouflage for your paid troll ( Don't try to post a iPhone screenshot to prove you're using an iphone, it's fairly easy to post someone else iphone while claiming that it's your phone.)

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 07:06 6

84. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


1. I use a 6 Plus. Last Samsung phone I owned was a Note 4.

2. Sales of the Z2 and Z3 didn't even make a dent in the S5 alone so stop lying to yourself. Potential isn't the same as actually did. I thought you'd be smart enough to know that.

3. You might want to go check the data again because I'm pretty sure Samsung is above Sony in customer satisfaction across the globe.

4. LOL paid troll that's creative. Check out how much jeans go for at my job on my avatar. Still have another one on top of that.

Here since you Want a screenshot so bad, check the dimensions. What other iPhone has a 1920x1080p screen? Let me know.

http://tinypic.com/r/2hpkfpl/8

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 08:58

98. j2001m (Posts: 2758; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


The problem is this year, with Samsung using there cpu thats way better then the 810 (think 600 to 800) and also making the speed of there software faster, if you do not like there hardware or software look, you can not just move to like htc and Sony and so on and get the same thing, 1st thing all games will be made with Samsung cpu and 2nd your phone will not even come close to the speed of the s6, why last year they was all close if not faster then the s5, I.e. When the lg G4 turns up it be doa right from the go, unlike last year, I.e. Samsung this year as got back what they had in the s2 and s3 at the time they came out

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 17:00 1

154. chromoid (Posts: 19; Member since: 03 Oct 2013)


If his claim of using iPhone 6 is not credited then what makes your I use an iPhone 5s means anything? Actually why would I take anything you say in your comment if your comment contradicts it self. let alone some self proclaimed facts that had no authentic source lime the zg and 2 took some if samsungs sales.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:10 2

63. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Let me make it clear for you since you obviously want to read what you want to read and leave out the main point:

[Sony] used to [bring]* something exciting to the table, but their mobile devices are starting [to]* the lack the "wow" factor. They did change, but not much.

Sony hasn't changed their UI since early 2012. It's 2015 now - three years later. Recycled designs from the Xperia Z. Limited global launch = failure to sell as many phones as possible. Horrible update schedule (flagship release and software updates) is the reason Sony is ok the mess they're in right now. You can try to refute any of it with the typical "you're a fanboy and just hate Sony" comments instead of actually proving me wrong, but that's all facts. :)

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 07:21 1

86. bucky (Posts: 2448; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Papasmurf, you mentioned you were thinking about switching back to the note 4 in a previous thread. Mind if I ask what made you keep the 6 plus? I'm not trolling either, just actually curious.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 16:32

150. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Mostly everyone in my family has iPhones to Facetiming is one of the biggest advantages I had. Two I actually did miss the quality of the apps (Snapchat and Facebook are completely different on iOS). I never said I was switching back to the Note 4. Had it for about a month and began using my Plus again. There's other reasons too but those are all personal.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 08:49 2

93. skyline88 (Posts: 437; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)


The overhyped Z3's camera performance is not even close to Note 4 or older Nokia Lumia.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 04:29

52. sgodsell (Posts: 3085; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The thing is Samsung has been loosing ground in the 2 largest markets both China and India. Just recently in India Samsung was over taken by a native Indian brand, now Samsung sits at number 2 position. Samsung has grown in other markets, but when China sells 100 smartphones in the last quarter alone in its own market. Then that is huge for anyone. Everyone was taking about how Apple did great with 74 million smart phones last quarter. Yet you hardly hear anything about how China sold 103 million smartphones to its own people last quarter.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 01:19 5

19. wildhammer (Posts: 56; Member since: 16 Mar 2014)


Yea...where i live people used to buy samsung no matter what and now recently lenovo entered and my god i could not believe, those who i thought would never leave their samsung bought budget lenovo smartphones...what i mean is theres been a shift and not just where i live but in the whole world.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:15 1

66. Neros (Posts: 1016; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)


Keyword "budget". When it come to high-end devices sammy wins hands down.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 09:02

101. j2001m (Posts: 2758; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


I am going to paste in my above post-----------The problem is this year, with Samsung using there cpu thats way better then the 810 (think 600 to 800) and also making the speed of there software faster, if you do not like there hardware or software look, you can not just move to like htc and Sony and so on and get the same thing, 1st thing all games will be made with Samsung cpu and 2nd your phone will not even come close to the speed of the s6, why last year they was all close if not faster then the s5, I.e. When the lg G4 turns up it be doa right from the go, unlike last year, I.e. Samsung this year as got back what they had in the s2 and s3 at the time they came out

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 03:18 12

39. tedkord (Posts: 9952; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Their latest flagship is the Note 4,and that's the best phone in its size/class. Plenty of wow there.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 10:03

107. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10652; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


It's ok. Could be a lot better.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 11:00

116. tedkord (Posts: 9952; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Then OK could be better tops anything else or there.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 12:09

124. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Note 4 is a beautiful device to hold. Specially the white one. I feel love for it whenever I look at it. It is pretty fast, fluid and buttery smooth(go away laggy haters). It is my first samsung phone after 5 years. The most important thing which I didnt find in any phone yet is finally cured by note 4 i.e. every phone slows down and lag when the memory is full above 70% or 80%. I filled note 4's 24.57gb memory above 23gb and it is still running buttery smooth.

P.S. (the battery sucks in this exynos version, sd805 was great).

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:12

64. Neros (Posts: 1016; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)


It'll still beat jtc and sony by miles. Don't you worry, bro. My money is ready for sammy.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:24 7

68. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Samsung sells more smartphones in one quarter than HTC and Sony combined in a year. Their S5 continues to the the best selling Android flagship on all carriers in the US and around the world.

Global market is being saturated by different brands.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:42 1

75. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


not just different but cheap brands, there is a reason they dont sell them here..

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 09:08

102. j2001m (Posts: 2758; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


As per my above post. That's because they all use the same cpu and have the same type of speed, Samsung now will have the fastest phone due to the cpu even if the China mam all use 4gb, and the s6 uses 3gb as the Samsung phone will use ddr4 it will be faster, I.e. Please do not give them and hard time if it as only 3gb ddr4 it will be faster than any 4gb ddr3 phone

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:45

78. darkkjedii (Posts: 19478; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Bring IJS.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 05:37 3

62. UglyFrank (Posts: 1554; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


The COO is incorrect for this one, the only reason BlackBerry and Nokia went down is because they were behind the times. Nokia/Blackberry on Android from the start and they would most likely still be successful.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:43 1

76. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Not really, there was nothing that was signaling that android was going to be #1. If anything they were like windows their first year. It took off as soon as people left symbian and joined android. There was no other 'real' competitor to the cheap offering.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 16:39 1

151. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


You Microsoft fans are just retarded...

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 07:08 4

85. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Android is not the answer to everyone's smartphone sales woes.

Motorola is not profiting off of Android, currently.
Sony is struggling with its Android only tactics.
HTC is struggling with its Android only tactics.
Even Samsung is losing revenue with its mostly Android only tactics.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 07:23 1

87. datguyglad (Posts: 98; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)


And blackberry is the answer..? Yeah i don't think so...

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 08:50 2

95. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Did you at anytime read that I said BlackBerry is the answer?

Reading comprehension is not one of your skills, I see.

BlackBerry is better off going it alone with their OWN OS for the market which is their primary concern: Enterprise.

In enterprise, BlackBerry has more market share than Android, iOS, Windows Phone, Tizen, Umbuntu, FirefoxOS, Fire OS, Symbian, Maemo, MeeGo, and WebOS COMBINED. They are larger than their nearest 3 competitors, which don't use ANY of the OS's I mentioned, COMBINED. Their homegrown OS, BB10, which is derived from their QNX OS, is THE MOST SECURE on the PLANET. Now, for the market that they compete in primarily, you think ANDROID is the answer?

THINK AGAIN.

Class dismissed.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 08:51 1

96. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


He never said that, he simply stated that on devices, it is hard to make money just by saying...i am android, buy me.

There is a reason why samsung wants ultimately to ditch android. The ecosystem is huge in having your own. There is a reason why amazon does not use googles android (the android most people only know of), and its because they dont make money on googles android services, google does. Do you think samsung gets billions in ad revenue from the play store and apps? No google does.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 08:57 1

97. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Thank you!

Some people just do not comprehend that just because said OEM is using Android, that it does not automatically equal great sales.

+1.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 21:29

159. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10652; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Damage control

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 21:28

158. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10652; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Lol bazinga.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 09:15 2

103. zinger69 (Posts: 85; Member since: 13 Feb 2014)


What OS would they use (Tizen Windows)? Android is open source and can be shaped into anything these companies what or need to use.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 10:04 1

108. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


The use of Android, in ALL of its forms, DOES NOT equate to sales. If that were the case, all of those companies I mentioned, and more, would be profitable. They're not. Samsung is the ONLY Android OEM currently making any money off of Android. Why is this so hard for Android fans to understand? Market share does not equal profit. One needs only to look at Xiaomi to see this. Their profit margin is horrible, even with the millions of Android handsets that they sell.

As far as BlackBerry is concerned:

Android and security are two things that do not go together. Definitely not well enough for world governments and the like. Why do you think Samsung turned to BlackBerry to make Knox secure? Blackphone, the "secure" Android handset with its PrivateOS, was hacked in under 5 minutes.

Need I say more?

Companies need to push and market, and market and push their OS of choice to their chosen demographic. They need to offer competitive features and pricing. They need to send their own reps to carrier stores to push their merchandise if carriers are doing a piss-poor job of it. They need to offer their handsets and other devices online if carriers won't carry them. They need to offer timely OS updates, and they need to be updates that don't CRIPPLE your device.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 11:37 2

121. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


And yet certain things get removed in favor of only being offered in googles version.

This is forcing OEM's to now spend money on OS development when they didnt have to.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 14:04

139. marcski07 (Posts: 598; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)


but still it makes the company afloat, it maybe not an assurance, but actually better option than staying with old operating system

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 15:18

145. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


So who is using an "old" operating system? BB10 is younger than Android, iOS and Windows for mobile. So are those latter 3 I just mentioned the "old" operating system you're referring to? Do you even know the difference between BB10 and legacy BlackBerry devices running BBOS7 and lower?

"but still it makes the company afloat"

Tell that to the Android OEM's besides Samsung. They are operating with either horrific profit margins or are operating at a loss.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 11:55 3

122. GreenZone (Posts: 146; Member since: 04 Mar 2014)


Nobody gives a damn about blackberry

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 12:22

125. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Look who's back! How was your "vacation"?Are you begging for my attention?

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 13:51

136. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1559; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


Nobody mentioned BlackBerry except for another booger-eating troll. Focus!

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 21:30

160. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10652; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


XD +1

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 23:51

165. meanestgenius (Posts: 9326; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Don't be a J.R.

posted on 08 Feb 2015, 13:07

168. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10652; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


No you

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 00:05 17

2. darkkjedii (Posts: 19478; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Samsungs over saturation could lead to it, the Galaxy brand is getting watered down.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 01:00 1

15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


No.

5char

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:45 5

77. darkkjedii (Posts: 19478; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Smurf, I think the Galaxy line has gotten overstuffed bro. There's too many Galaxy phones, and several don't deserve that distinction. Galaxy phones should only be the S, and Note series devices, which would keep the lines prestige. It's like everythings a Galaxy now, next up Galaxy flip phones and toasters.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:53

82. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Which is why there's the A, J and E series.

Galaxy S was reserved for mid-high end and will continue to do so unless they decide to throw a curveball and give thr S6 a completely different name.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 10:54 2

115. darkkjedii (Posts: 19478; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


They shouldn't be Galaxys.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 07:29

89. datguyglad (Posts: 98; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)


I half agree with you on this. Yes they have alot of galaxy phones but here in the U.S only the S line is universally carried by the big four retailers. If samsung fails on the S6 then that might be the last of samsung's reign at the top. Myself I'm optimistic about samsung.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 02:02 6

27. BobbyBuster (banned) (Posts: 854; Member since: 13 Jan 2015)


It's already there: Recently, Sammy IM reported less *revenue* than Apple's *profit*

However, I think MotoLenovo isn't in a position to judge Sammy.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 02:14

29. cripton805 (Posts: 1417; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


I was thinking the same. Motorola had the best selling phone in history right before the iPhone released. I wonder if the iPhone beat that iconic Razr.

(not all iPhones, but one model in specific.)

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 02:33 2

33. rd_nest (Posts: 1578; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Again wrong, Nokia 1100 is the highest selling phone in the world, by a long way. More than 250 million for a particular model. Nothing even come close.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 06:48

79. darkkjedii (Posts: 19478; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


He said "one model in specific ", not the handset makers entire lineup. You're wrong, pay attention.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 10:38

112. cripton805 (Posts: 1417; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


I forgot about Candybars. Either way good point. Nokia is now worse off.

Motorola came close to being run down itself and Nokia was trampled.
Both Motorola and Nokia were top dogs.

I'm starting to see Motorola do an Apple trend. They're marketing their phones properly and the way they Iconize their logo on their backs is genious. I said in a previous comment that Samsung needs to work on their IMAGE first off. To give people a wow factor. Motorola did that with Moto Maker. It was a major hit. It's colorful unique and it makes those users feel more connected to the brand. They also look more premium.

If they start releasing more phones like Sammy, then they will lose that connection. You don't feel personally attached a Samsung phone. You don't feel special holding one. Like you do with a Motorola or Apple phone.

Samsungs image is garbage by giving all of their phones the Galaxy name. They feel generic and definately not special in any way. Although, they are great phones.

posted on 07 Feb 2015, 02:41 4

34. rd_nest (Posts: 1578; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Just Samsung "Electronics" had about 49 billion of revenue last Q. Apple's profit's were about 18 billion.

Learn to read before you comment, you come across as an idiot if you make such glaring mistakes.

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