HTC Vigor first press shots spotted, may arrive as HTC Droid Incredible HD
1. asdf (unregistered)
shouldn't it be WXGA?
25. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
I didn't know that Verizon had WXGA? CONFUSED.......
45. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
Do you know what WXGA is? its a resolution...nothing to do with verizon...
WXGA is 1280x800
46. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
WXGA is 1280x800, not 720. So no, it shouldnt be WXGA, why do u say it should be?
48. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
WXGA can be anywhere from 1280x720 to 1366x800. So this could be described as WXGA, but either 720p or half HD is more accurate.
54. asdf (unregistered)
2. Yes (unregistered)
3. samshotdogs (unregistered)
1620 battery---mmmmmm..4.3 screen, LTE, 1.5 ghz...I don't know how long that battery will last...The Bionics has a 1735 mah and I'm already reading bad battery life....HTC should have learned from the Thunderbolts small battery
18. idontknowanything (unregistered)
The processor is said to be a next generation 28nm Snapdragon that uses less power, hopefully that will make up for the smaller battery. Still, I agree with you.
19. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
That would be nice, but the S4 Snapdragons aren't supposed to be available to developers until next quarter. This probably uses the same MSM8660 currently used in the EVO 3D but clocked at 1.5 Ghz.
34. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the MSM8960 is said to launch in devices by the end of 2011, the launch of the Vigor coincides with that and it would make sense because i came to the very same conclusion that samshotdogs did but i was going based off of it's slim frame that it'd have a smaller battery and it seems that i was correct so for this phone to even be usable it would have to have something like the MSM8960 but whether or not the 28nm building process which is said to cut down power consumption by 75% (which sounds like an exaggeration anyway) will actually bury the power consumption of a full HD screen, a 1.5GHz dual-core processor and 4G LTE connectivity enough to put battery life anywhere near what it is on the Bionic which uses a quarter of the pixels and a processor that's clocked down by 1/3 of the clock speed of the 8960 which will STILL be inferior to the OMAP4 remains to be seen but it's doubtful. unless you're just a straight up HTC fan or you're waiting for the Prime then there's really no reason to not consider the Bionic instead. the Bionic will have trade offs for the Vigor putting them at the same level.
39. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
We'll see. I looked into the MSM8960 and it does appear to have been sampled earlier than expected. The Vigor would be an ideal launch device for the S4 Snapdragons.
41. Jamister989 (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Jul 2011)
If this does in fact have the new S4 MSM8960 that has LTE on the chip, this could mean an LTE phone that has a decent battery life.
42. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i haven't heard anywhere that it had a 3G/LTE radio on the board. i was doubting it was even an S4. o:
5. chocolatebear76 (Posts: 122; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
HTC HAS ALWAYS BEEN AWFUL WITH THEIR BATTERIES LIFE'S ANYWAY,TELL ME ONE HTC PHONE THAT GOT IMPRESSIVE BATTERY LIFE GUYS?
11. DoctorD0S (Posts: 15; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS?!?
The Incredible had reasonable battery life, no worse than my Droid 2, and I could get 2 days on that when I wasn't in the basement of my office. The 4G phones all have poor battery life, but the 3G ones are not that bad. I also had two HTC Windows phones, and both were pretty decent. They are all smartphones, so just plan to charge them nightly. Not a big deal.
13. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I have a droid incredible and I only care about MIN battery life. which for the droid incredible is less than 3 hours. not good by any means
14. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I always read the Incredible had lousy battery life. The standby time was something like 150 hours, half that of most other phones. People overlooked it though because the phone was so fast.
Probably a good thing it offers inductive charging out of the box though.
35. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
it's ironic because the Droid Incredible 2/Incredible S has pretty great battery life.
38. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The Incredible 2 just wasn't enough of a leap over the Incredible to really make an impression on people. It's gotten mediocre reviews even though it's a solid phone. Every time I've gone into a Verizon store I end up liking the DInc 2 design, feel and screen quality best. Actually a big reason I want the Incredible HD is because of how much I like the look and feel of the DInc 2.
43. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the Droid Incredible 2 is a fine phone for what it is which is like a Global mid-range offering. my sister got one as a warranty replacement from her original Incredible and it has MUCH better battery life. she hasn't even had to get a second battery which i had to do for my Droid 3 which is a pretty big deal because the Droid 3 has pretty good battery life too. it looks really nice but my Droid 3 does too and i'm spoiled to it's power. the Droid Incredible 2 just feels laggy to me now after having the Droid 3 since it's launch.
40. erisowner (unregistered)
My Eris lasts FOREVER without a charge and the battery is 2 years old already!
55. eris hubby (unregistered)
my wife's eris had great battery life until one month ago when the battery decided it would only hold a charge for 3 hours.
6. dcgore (unregistered)
wow, it's beautiful...and i thought i was getting an iphone.
7. Adi (unregistered)
Surprising that phonearena didnt mention that this phone comes with wireless inductive charging capabilities. I am sure this is the first phone to come with such capability. (....well maybe because it is not an apple product.)
9. Adi (unregistered)
well..my mistake. Thanks for correcting me.
10. DoctorD0S (Posts: 15; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
There are a lot of phones with that option, Palm Pre, Palm Pixi, Incredible, Droid 3, Bionic, Droid Charge, etc. But most require a new back cover. Tempted to get one for my phone, but the charging pads are pricey.
12. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
48 GB built in? Dang. This'll definitely be $300 then.
20. Sethdras (Posts: 61; Member since: 22 Jul 2009)
16gb built in, comes with 32gb micro sd, still nice that it comes with an extra 32 and not 16, this will probably be my next phone, hopefully they include some beats headphones with it too
22. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
48 GB included, that's what I meant. Compare to the Sensation & EVO 3D that have only 1 GB built in and the Thunderbolt with 8 GB.
I don't care so much about fancy headphones, this phone already has it all.
26. yeayea (unregistered)
well it says at the bottom Dr. Dre studio earbuds
15. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
is this going to be omap or snapdragon?I hope it isn't snapdragon
16. superguy (Posts: 293; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I believe it is unfortunately. That's why it's a 1.5 GHz compared to OMAP based phones.
HTC seems to have a love affair with Qualcomm.
17. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
They've been working with Qualcomm processors pretty much exclusively for years. At this point it's probably easiest for them to develop/program for them, even if they're not the best available.
Is it true the current dual core Snapdragons don't really use the 2nd core? Is that likely to change when ICS arrives?
21. Gorilla (unregistered)
Anyone know if HTC uses Gorilla glass?
This is a great looking phone!
I think it will come down to this or the Prime.. gotta have that 1280 resolution!
I'd love a 4.5" screen, but I'm really worried that the Prime will not have a LED notification light being a samsung product.. does the GS2??
23. android1234 (Posts: 137; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
This phone sounds great, but I'm enticed to wait for the Samsung Droid prime for the following: 4.65" super ambled hd display, TI OMAP 1.5Ghz dual-core processor, and ICS. These 3 feature are a better offering than HTCs vigor.
24. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The screen spec depends on what you're looking for. If you're like me and you just want the highest pixel density known to man, a 4.3" SLCD HD display easily tops a 4.65" pentile SAMOLED HD (and the vaunted Retina Display for that matter). I don't need a 4.65" screen.
Otherwise yes, the Droid Prime will top this phone. And I'll still be happy with it.
27. android1234 (Posts: 137; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
Correct, but pixel density over 300 looks pretty much the same to the naked eye. I watch a lot of netflix, so bigger screen and super amoled hd resolution is perfect, only downer is that its pentile arrangement display, but ohh well
28. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
pentile can be fine when the base resolution is high. The 800x480 pentile screens were like 400x200 or something similar, don't quote me on that though.
29. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
It's somewhere in between the stated resolution and subpixel-based resolution. A 300 ppi PenTile screen will look more like 250 ppi, which is still good. But 4"+ WVGA screens start to show jaggies much more readily, as the stated 230 ppi drops to like 190.
Even at 4.65", SAMOLED PenTile 720p will only drop from ~320 ppi to ~280. It'll still look stunning.
30. android1234 (Posts: 137; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
I dont why Samsung chose to use pentile, or anyone one for that matter, unless they had to use it to achieve Hd resolution for super amoled.
31. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
When they started with AMOLED, Samsung used PenTile RGBG because there was no other way to balance the color intensities, and because of limitations on subpixel size. It wasn't a big deal until the screens started pushing 4". At that level the subpixel arrangement becomes clearer. My Rogue has a 3.1" WVGA screen, and I didn't even know it was PenTile until I'd owned it for over a year.
What I don't get is why Motorola went with Pentile RGBW for its qHD screens. It makes the screen look no better than an equivalent size WVGA screen. HTC uses a regular RGB LCD for their qHD, and the difference is definitely noticeable.
32. sooo (unregistered)
so if you had to pick a screen which one would you go with the Samsung for the HTC?
33. sooo (unregistered)
my guess would be that the samsung would have a better screen
36. android1234 (Posts: 137; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
Htc will look sharper because its a smaller screen and rgbg, Samsung colors will look better due to it being super amoled....but screen aside, I wonder what the thickness of the 2 phones will be? Because I have thunderbolt and its just too thick. I know its because of he 4g radio, but theyvcould make it thinner if they wanted. Like the Droid bionic.
37. locoboy (unregistered)
Phone looks good I love my HTC more pixels better gaming better graphics than the samsung and the Samsung will lack on features the htc would have more features to play with so if you're a tech guy like me with the htc I don't like the way htc incredible 1 incredibles 2 camera runs blurry shots when you take pictures but is the camera on this 1 is good I'm gonna definitely buy this phone if they can get real full gaming on this then it will be sweet LOL they are also coming out with a 3 d HTC phone in about 5 months so save your upgrades or if you cant wait get this phone this phone is awesome I got 5lines so I got my upgrades ready LOL I pay $160 a month so to me it's like making a loan what is a cool thing about it the HTC tb has so many things wrong with it they said I can trade my phone in for that 1 free LOL I yea baby sweet and the battery sucks on all android cell phones not just htc so get it right but with the dual core technology it's gonna last 2 times longer so let me see how's the camera before I buy
44. yeayeayea (unregistered)
hmmmmm this is interersint article here..... says radio shack is expected to get this phone oct. 20
47. sooooooooooooo (unregistered)
So either the HTC Vigor or the Droid Prime.................... what is everyone else going for? Which screen will be better?
49. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I'd have to see them side by side to say which screen is better. AMOLED in general is brighter & more vivid, but LCD is more natural looking. Both screens will be a big improvement over what's available today. I'm looking forward to the Vigor/Inc HD more because it will be smaller overall.
50. Vigor_fan (unregistered)
So im actually a bit confused. Between the rumors of it being the Thunderbolt replacement and the Droid Inc HD, if it truly is the later, when should we expect a second version of the Thunderbolt and what would we be likely to see on it??
53. roldefol (Posts: 4108; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Well, it is replacing the Thunderbolt in the sense that it'll be HTC's flagship LTE phone on Verizon, but they chose to go with the Incredible design language (and no kickstand) instead. I happen to like the Incredible and Incredible 2, so an Incredible HD sounds great to me.
As for a Thunderbolt 2, there may not be one. For me the Thunderbolt name is associated with bugs and poor battery life, so I say they make it a one-off. Who knows though?