HTC M8 coming with a high-powered Snapdragon 800 and a 4MP UltraPixel camera
As educated as these guesses were, we'll never say no to some more evidence that supports our theory. Luckily for you and us both, the folks behind the AnTuTu benchmark blogged on this very same topic, and it seems that we had this one right.
For starters, our guess that this is likely the HTC M8 checks out, as the benchmarked phone runs on software dubbed htc_m8-userdebug|4.4|KRT160 (based on Android 4.4 KitKat). What's more, our genius insight into AnTuTu scores and corresponding hardware was also spot on, as it turns out that the HTC M8 sports Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 MSM8974AB. That mumbo-jumbo of a model number at the end signifies that this is the high-powered version of Qualcomm's mightiest, featuring slightly higher clocks than the conventional Snapdragon 800.
Details, like the rumored bump in real estate, have also been confirmed from AnTuTu's dig – we're indeed getting a 5-inch 1080p display, along with 2GB of RAM and 32GB of internal space. But, perhaps most important of all, it would appear that the HTC M8 is on path to continue the disappointing legacy of the company's proprietary UltraPixel technology, as it sports the very same 4MP snapper on its rear plus a 2.1MP shooter front-side.
12. Captain_Doug (Posts: 749; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Snapdragon 800 with adreno 330, 2GB ram, 1080P display, and Android 4.4 are all fails too? Come on. Use your words. Yes there are some dissatisfying specs like the camera and storage but this is not a crap device. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
17. emadshiny (Posts: 1127; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I don't say they are "crap", but if we consider the time of its release and its probable rivals (S5, Z2, G3, iP6), then we can conclude that this device can't help HTC to get out of its current situation.
Just 1080P display and android 4.4 are good choices.
27. Captain_Doug (Posts: 749; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
fail and crap are kind of synonyms... Pardon me for interpreting.
39. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
You are moron. The S5 in the US will have the same processor. The 805 is not being released until mid summer 2014. And Samsung's crappy processors cannot handle LTE well. The camera is amazing and doesn't need to change. The specs are awesome and specs don't matter you are simply a spec whore.
61. papss (unregistered)
Camera is amazing??? Say what?
69. ilani (Posts: 50; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
when you're sitting in class taking pictures of teachers notes on the board, only to realize after when you zoom in on the picture, it becomes useless and blurry because of the low resolution. it may be a great nighttime camera, but its a bad overall camera. I hate it!
65. Dr.Phil (Posts: 897; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
According to Qualcomm's own website:
"The Snapdragon 805 processor is sampling now and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2014."
That doesn't sound like "mid-summer" to me.
21. Dr.Phil (Posts: 897; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I don't necessarily think he was saying that it is a bad device in terms of specifications but rather that there is a higher possibility of it lagging behind the competition in terms of it's specifications depending on when the device is released. If the device is released by, say, March or April of next year then it will be going up against devices that could very well have the new Snapdragon 805 or Tegra 5 processor (or if any new Exynos is introduced), a 2560x1440 resolution display, better camera sensors and camera technology, newer RAM technology or size, and so on. While a Snapdragon 800 processor and 1080p screen are high-end enough for even the heaviest of power users, consumers will still tend to gravitate towards the device that offers the latest in technology (as I have noted earlier). Not to mention they could set themselves up for failure if HTC tries to sell such a device at a similar price point as another device with better specifications (i.e. the HTC One Max being the same price as the Note 3).
24. Hyperreal (Posts: 126; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)
The price of htc one max was lower then note 3 so its not true. In Poland it was 2649 vs. 2999 PLN when it was introduced so the difference is quite big. Anyway I think this leak maybe true but I dont beleive its HTC's next flagship. It would be a minor update from HTC One. Only Soc would change, creen size and probably battery. Maybe they want to release an updated one (like one+) and HTC one succesor (htc two or whatever). Regarding Full HD resolution I think for 5 inch its completely enough.
64. Dr.Phil (Posts: 897; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I was talking about here in the US. The HTC One Max is $299 on contract with Verizon which is the same price as the Note 3 on contract. However, by bringing up your country, I should note that the Galaxy S4 is around 1900 PLN which is significantly cheaper than the HTC One Max while also offering the same specifications (minus the screen size).
50. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The camera will be amazing. It is amazing and got rave reviews on the One. So it will again. It even beat the S4 in a comparison. Megapixels don't matter.
62. papss (unregistered)
Dude I'm not sure what you are smoking but the camera is crap. I love HTC but to say it's amazing is a lie.
76. FaisalWibowo11 (Posts: 95; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Even though i'm not a photographer, I know several things about what make good image quality.
Let me tell you a thing or two.
Megapixels DOES matter in some aspect but so do several things such as sensor size, aperture, and post processing.
If you say MP don't matter, can you find good pics captured by a 2MP cameraphone? Fu*k no.
And can you snap amazing pics captured by a 13MP cameraphone with a bad post processing? No of course. But still, a lousy 13MP camera will still be better than say... Average 8MP camera, but not a good one.
And if you say HTC one's image quality is amazing. Let me tell you, I played with HTC one's camera quite a lot. And I often found unsatisfactory amount of detail, occasional pink cast, oversharpening halos, overexposed skies, etc. And I can't say HTC one's ultrapixel quality is good after seeing those bad artifacts.
Don't get me wrong, HTC One is a great phone, near perfect even. It has great ui, the best audio quality in the market, beautiful design, lots of software enhancement, and great display. But it is let down by a mediocre camera and no sd card slot.
10. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
even my n73 has better camera than one :D
31. FaisalWibowo11 (Posts: 95; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
My Sony Ericsson Hazel's 5MP camera performs waayy better than HTC's ultrapixel monkey CR*P!
70. FaisalWibowo11 (Posts: 95; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Who do you mean by liar? I own sony hazel and I tested its camera against htc one's. Sony hazel won by quite a large margin in terms of detail, colour reproduction, contrast, noise levels, and even low light performance.
11. izim1 (Posts: 74; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
To be fair, once I sent my phone back to HTC to fix the ugly tint problems under warranty the camera is as good as any other camera phone with the exception of the 1020 of course. But that's a whole different beast. More pixels don't always mean better camera. I'd figure everyone in 2013 would know that. Now, if your annoyance is merely that they keep marketing it as something special when it clearly isn't then yea. I agree with you.
23. Alex123 (Posts: 210; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Yes, you are right. More pixels don't always mean better camera but keep in mind that more pixels can produces more detailed image quality. I think the ultrapixel camera can only help the One to capture a better low light condition but in term of details image cannot compare with its rivals. To be honest, i love the everything of HTC One except camera which not acceptable and not worth for money
25. izim1 (Posts: 74; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
On that note, you don't really need more than a couple megapixels to take good daytime pics on a phone. so the ultrapixels would give it an edge over the competition in your example right? Same soso daytime pics better low light pics. I mean the 1020 isn't amazing just because of the 40+. It helps a lot but the internals do a whole lot of work also. You need more than just pixels to take good pics. You need certain tech that just isnt as easy to fit into the small thin devices that people demand now. Just to be clear I'm not defending the HTC one. Not just it. I'm also defending the gs4, gs3, iPhones and every other smartphone cam for the simple fact that I'm not a teenager focused on taking selfies or filming dumb vids on my phone therefore camera is the last spec I worry about. I have a dslr that I take anywhere I know I'm going to want pics to remember.
72. almostdone (Posts: 110; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
I was a big fan of HTC phones once but their camera has always been very poor quality.
The problem with HTC they don't produce or partner with someone who produces decent lenses. It is clearly not just about megapixels but on all comparisons to flagship phones the HTC Ultrapixel is terrible. Having too few pixels means lower detailed shot. A pixel is a pixel. It is like saying why not just have 1MPx since megapixel count doesn't matter, it does. One megapixel will not produce enough detail...
86. andlu15 (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
I sit in class and take notes with my phone. to get a clearer image means that I have to go in front of the board to take pictures because the zoom is just too blurry. This is why mega pixels matter.
22. Pancholo (Posts: 377; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Lol. UltraPixel. It now seems that the name's only an excuse to support their cheap camera choice.
Profit, profit, profit (if they sell, that is).
59. LiyanaBG (Posts: 288; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)
if HTC doesn't make there next phone Snapdragon 805, 3gb ram,3300m battery, 13 ultra mp camera, sense 6.0(AD 4.4),improved boom sound
& a 5.2 inch screen with no capacitive buttons then they should not make phones and go home. people don't want old specs when they going to understand this.
75. chocolaking (Posts: 430; Member since: 22 May 2012)
This is obviousely the HTC One+
how dumb can you be to assume this is the next flagship..
2. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 357; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
Please upgrade it to an 8MP Ultrapixel sensor! The chipset should have been Snapdragon 805 and I hope they didn't make the phone any bigger and instead utilised all the bezel on the HTC One.
13. Tomfromsouth (Posts: 50; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
Yeah, I agree. I really like the HTC One this year - I thought was an outstanding phone barring a good- but not great camera. It's a pity cos I was really forward to their next incrementation of the HTC One especially since my contract is up for renewal.
I don't mind the s800, (but I'm not crazy getting older tech when there's new tech available- cos it just looks like they're cutting corners on their flagship) but I think they definitely need to improve the camera to remain competitive. Anyone thinking about getting the HTC upgrade next year?
52. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The camera on the One was the best. It was simply amazing. Every review agreed
Yes. I am. I will be trading in the One to get the M8.
3. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Meanwhile Samsung will probably use the Snapdragon 805, 13mp camera or higher, probably more than 2gb of ram...sigh
Every since the GS3, it seems like HTC prefers not to go toe to toe with Samsung
14. Captain_Doug (Posts: 749; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Do people just not remember the Moto X? The spec race is over. Android will run smooth on anything half decent. If they put a little more work into optimizing their skin then it doesn't matter if Samsung hardware is more powerful if it doesn't run as smooth.
19. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
My comment literally flew over your head
26. Captain_Doug (Posts: 749; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I'm just saying that going toe to toe doesn't have to mean with hardware.
32. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Yeah it does, because salesman SALE phones and flaunt specs. Have you never been to an Verizon, AT&T, Sprint or T-Mobile store?
Sure the spec war is over but when you have 2 flagship phones, I.e. the Galaxy S5 and HTC M8, prices being equal, what's the selling point for the M8 over the more than likely, higher spec S5? Highlight? Anything?
HTCs only Hope is to undercut in price
33. tech2 (Posts: 1919; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
'SALE phones' ?! should be 'SELL phones'...x)
41. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The 805 is not being released until Summer 2014. So no they will not. And megapxiel count does not matter. It is moronic to think that it does. Every review gave the One's camera a higher grade than the S4. Samsung needs more than 2gb of ram because of Touchwiz you idiot..
4. Killua (Posts: 262; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Whoa, that specs. For a flagship? They're clearly dying, but they should've gone with a bang, not a dud like this one.
No pun intended.
53. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The camera on the One is amazing. Try actually using it and reading the reviews which praised it.
68. ojdidit84 (Posts: 278; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I have used it. It looks OK on the phone, but once those photos are transferred to a PC and you see the (lack of) detail in the pictures, you realize how bad the pictures really are compared to the competitors.
I'm probably the biggest HTC fan that I know but that camera either needs to go or bump up the megapixels so that the camera can capture more detail. It's pretty sad when my old DNA can take pictures with better detail than the One.
42. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The camera is not crappy you idiot. Every review praised the camera.
80. FaisalWibowo11 (Posts: 95; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Which site? Huh?
Gsmarena said the camera performs poorly in good light
In every camera comparison in phonearena and every site on the net, HTC one always came in the last place.
Photography specific websites said the camera sucked.
Jeez, what a blockhead fanboy
8. ravivarma639 (Posts: 18; Member since: 15 Apr 2013)
Snapdragon 805, 3gb ram,3300m battery, 6 ultra mp camera, sense 6.0(AD 4.4),improved boom sound
& a 5.2 inch screen with no capacitive buttons will be a good improvement
15. Captain_Doug (Posts: 749; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Look at me, I can list the best hardware. Congratulations.
16. droidgoms (Posts: 16; Member since: 26 Oct 2013)
o htc pls dont push your ultra pixel or whatsoever...its still crap ..... havent you learn before its the downside why you still try to bring it up........ smartphone fighting for there megapixel count and function......ois, and bsi.....i like your built quality but not your camera.. and UI... sorry for this but this is my opinion.
54. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
The camera is the best on the One. It takes amazing pictures. Every one who has used it agrees. Every reviewer gave it praise. You are a pathetic twat.
18. mr.techdude (Posts: 542; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Trust me guys I'm a HTC fan but the camera was a fail and that was very true but, 2gb of ram is all it needs my HTC one uses only 450 mb/2gb of ram, Sammys devices need the huge ram to cope with the sci fi mumbo jumbo features and yet they still lag. Now with the sd 800+ is kinda of a fail, what happened to that Andreno 400?. Pls HTC don't use that camera and put on a huge battery with a sd lot.
43. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
You are a dumbass. The camera is amazing. Just look at the reviews.
82. SBL_LNG (Posts: 6; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
u, a**hole, I used it (HTC One) already and now using G2. the Camera of HTC one is s**ck comparing to G2.
28. xperiance (Posts: 44; Member since: 22 Oct 2013)
If this phone is launched in 2013... Then its awesome...but for 2014.....its a fail.....
45. cordawgfrito (Posts: 49; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
Every phone will have these sames specs for at least the first 7 months of 2014.
As the Moto X taught us specs don't mean a damn thing.
The phone will be better than any crappy device released by Samsung, or LG.