Are AT&T and T-Mobile overcharging their pre-paid customers?
The study conducted by the Post found that some carriers are routinely adding time to the length of a call, even after the caller has hung up. In one example, AT&T added as many as 33 seconds to a subscriber's call after he had ended the connection. This allowed the carrier to bill the customer for an additional minute of talk time.
To make sure there is no confusion, it has been traditional for carriers to bill a pre-paid customer for two minutes of usage even for a call that lasts 70 seconds. But the complaint now is that the carriers are billing for two minutes of talk time on calls that last under a minute. Even though the overcharges don't occur with every call, the sheer number of pre-paid subscribers can help the wireless operators jack up their revenue figures. AT&T last year had 7.4 million pre-paid customers (which is now closer to 12 million with the Leap acquisition) and T-Mobile had 15.1 million. If each AT&T customer had just one overcharge, it would have resulted in $740,000 in additional revenue. And while that doesn't sound like a lot of extra revenue for a company the size of AT&T, for T-Mobile, just one overcharge per pre-paid subscriber would add $5 million to the top line.
Don't think that all pre-paid customers have passively sat back and accepted this. Last March, AT&T pre-paid customer William Fogal spotted a difference in the time of calls listed on his phone, and on AT&T's website. In one example, Fogal made a call listed on his phone as lasting 29 seconds. On AT&T's website, the same call shows a connection time of 1 minute, 2 seconds. He calls this "a massive consumer fraud designed by AT&T to steal money from their customers." A test conducted by the Washington Post to recreate Fogal's experience showed that AT&T would consistently count calls lasting between 49 and 59 seconds, as using two minutes of talk time. Fogal has since lodged complaints with the SEC, the California attorney general's office and the House Oversight Committee.
"T-Mobile’s ‘Pay As You Go’ prepaid options provide customers the added flexibility of managing costs and consumption more easily. Customer charges are based on total usage and deducted from their balance. Customers are charged $.33/per minute. If a customer exceeds (1) minute, they will automatically be charged for an additional minute. Total charges are calculated based on the total time of the call, including: set-up, call, and hang-up time. From a billing perspective, a customer is charged from the start of their transaction (hitting send) to the end of their transaction (hanging up), not just the actual talk time."-T-Mobile statement
AT&T and T-Mobile basically offered the same explanation, saying that the timer on a phone measuring the length of a call is not accurate. Both carriers say that talk time starts when the send button is pressed and runs until the end button is deployed. Still, the Washington Post also tested Verizon's pre-paid service and found that the call time as listed on the phone used, matched perfectly with the amount of talk time charged to the Verizon customer.
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AT&T and T-Mobile accused of overcharging pre-paid customers
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1. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
On ting I would always go over my brackets and they wouldnt charge me the higher amount. Good Guy Ting Mobile. Best pre paid company for low uasge.
2. Shatter (Posts: 1967; Member since: 29 May 2013)
$30 a month for 5GB of data and unlimited voice through Google hangouts for free.
3. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
How do you make calls to phone numbers on Android using Hangouts?
10. bigdawg23 (Posts: 344; Member since: 25 May 2011)
With your data package. It part of the app in Android and iOS
11. sprockkets (Posts: 1077; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Missed the point - you can't call others who don't use it via hangouts. That's his point.
You could use skype to do it, but that costs a little.
14. reckless562 (Posts: 617; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
or use google voice with Talktone n call #s for FREEEEEE!!!!!
17. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
I was curious because I do use Skype for international calls, but the sound quality can be pretty bad.
16. Kaiser2007 (Posts: 144; Member since: 16 Nov 2013)
I don't use Hangouts. I install google voice app on my phone and use google voice # to call other # for FREE.
19. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
When using Google Voice to place a call to a phone number, it still uses plan minutes. Just read the app description at bit.ly/1lEbEtS
4. sprockkets (Posts: 1077; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
This makes sense as my minutes are all shorter than I expected. What is dumb is they don't charge for a minute if you don't complete the call, so why count more as far as setup time?
8. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
It's not as dumb as a measure to avoid complaints. Yet, the network is being used, that's why if the call is completed, all the set up time is charged.
5. wolverinexmen9 (Posts: 76; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
T-Mobiles pre paid plans are exactly the same as their simple choice plans. $50 for unlimited call, text, and data(500mb of 4G.) Only difference is you only have to pay state tax and that's it. And also there are no family plans on pre paid. First person is $50 second person is $50 and so on. With T-Mobiles simple choice plans First person is $50, second person is $30, third, forth, and fifth lines are $10 each. Anyone need more data it goes up $10 for another 2GB.
6. HASHTAG (Posts: 117; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)
What's the point of your post? It's irrelevant to this article...
9. wolverinexmen9 (Posts: 76; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
I don't know how they could say T-Mobile is over charging their pre-paid customers when the pre-paid plans have unlimited calling? Then I just stated how the simple choice plans are the same as the pre-paid plans besides the family part and sales tax.
12. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Tmobile has a $30 prepaid plan. 100 minutes, 5gb of data, and unlimited messaging.
I think they should at least offer a reasonable 300 minutes and $10/100minutes after that at least.
22. phonetekmek (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)
T-Mobile offers pay as you go service as well $10- 30 min $30-160min $50-400 min so on. So the plans you are refering to have nothing to do with what is being talked about here.
7. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
There are many other pre-paid plans, even per day ones.
15. Augustine (Posts: 608; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
FYI, here are all the several pre-paid plans from T-mobile:http://t-mo.co/1lE9WZA
20. jackskellington6 (Posts: 6; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)
There are family plans on T-Mobile's prepaid. There is a limit to 4 devices. Line 1 is $50, Line 2 $30, and Lines 3 and 4 are $10.
24. wolverinexmen9 (Posts: 76; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
No there's not. You probably got your plan at Hellmart and they told you it's a prepaid family plan even though it's truly a simple choice family plan.
13. quyenqchau0813 (Posts: 78; Member since: 22 Mar 2013)
$30 a month T-Mobile 5G,
Use an app call Vonage, make free call using your default number as your User ID so people know it's you. I don't have to use a different Google calling app (they have a lot of apps similar to each other using Google Voice services :( )
so basically you have 5G, unlimited text, almost unlimited outbound call, 100 in bound call. I would pretend to hang up on people, then call them to save minutes for others important use :D.
18. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7354; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You have access to 5G? Post some Speedtests please.