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Apple Q&A on tracking location data: “we don't do it,” not exactly

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Apple Q&A on tracking location data: “we don't do it,” not exactly

Did you know that your iPhone 4 is tracking your location data? You might not have been informed up until a week ago when what seems to have been quietly discovered months ago by a research group finally made it to the headlines. But is it true? Apple claims that it's not. Not exactly.


“1. Why is Apple tracking the location of my iPhone?

Apple is not tracking the location of your iPhone. Apple has never done so and has no plans to ever do so.”


Wait, you must be slightly confused after it was confirmed that it not only tracks the position of your iPhone, but it does so in an unencrypted file, which is also backed up to your PC everytime you back up your handset. This means that everyone in the know looking for it, might have a personal record of your travels for a whole year. The ability to have a complete record of your location might sound cool at first, but having it unencrypted should make it slightly disturbing even for the most liberal of users out there.


“3. Why is my iPhone logging my location?

The iPhone is not logging your location. Rather, it’s maintaining a database of Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers around your current location, some of which may be located more than one hundred miles away from your iPhone”


Is Apple saying here that it's not recording your location with absolute precision? Technically Cupertino is right – it only tracks the position of cell towers, but the final result is arguably the same as you get a rather accurate estimate of your location through cell tower triangulation.


Apple Q&A on tracking location data: âwe don't do it,â not exactly

While knowing your position in environments where GPS would have taken a lot of time is undoubtedly beneficial, the security issue remains unaddressed. Cupertino was actually surprised to find out it's collecting a year worth of your iPhone's location, while it was only supposed to gather information about a week. Luckily, that's going to change in an upcoming update:


“The reason the iPhone stores so much data is a bug we uncovered and plan to fix shortly ... We don’t think the iPhone needs to store more than seven days of this data.”


The irony of it all is that Steve Jobs himself stood up to quite convincingly make the point that iOS is absolutely secure. We would hate to blow this out of proportion, but it seems that with all privacy measures, the amount of data collected could be endangered. Bugs are inevitable, but the bottom line is that it's honorable that Apple came up with an official statement and an update is now pending. And being reassured about security is a nice prelude to the white iPhone 4, isn't it? Check out the full Q&A at the link below and don't hesitate to let us know your thoughts on the matter in the comments section.


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1. iwebdroidberry7 posted on 27 Apr 2011, 10:38 4 11

Steve Jobs never said iOS was bug free PhoneArena. And do you guys understand how far away from a cell tower you can be? It's virtually useless to track somebody through cell towers. And if thats such a big deal then people should start suing cell phone companies as well becasue they do virtually the same thing!

2. msa1988 posted on 27 Apr 2011, 10:45 12 5

Do you have any idea what triangulation is? If you have 3 distances from 3 different cell towers, you can track exactly where the person was at any given time. Id explain more, but you are probably too stupid to understand.

Android phones track your location as well, but that's with your own consent. Apple has been tracking AND saving your locations without them knowing. Whether its for studies of where hot spots should be installed, they are still doing it. I don't see it as a big deal, but it is a big deal how they wont own up to their mistakes.

4. PhoneLuver posted on 27 Apr 2011, 10:56 5 4

Totally agree with you! They should just apologize so we can all move on with our lives!

13. 530gemini posted on 27 Apr 2011, 13:34 4 6

Apologize for what? For providing better and faster service to their users? This has caused no inconvenience to users at all. Phones will never be bug free.

12. 530gemini posted on 27 Apr 2011, 13:32 5 5

Apple does not track their users. Didn't you read that part? They already explained how that log can help give faster results for users when using an iphone to locate something.

They already said that there's a bug that needs to be fixed. So what's not owning up to it?

36. applesauce (unregistered) posted on 27 Apr 2011, 15:20 3 3

you're blind. They clearly stated that they do track it, but deny that they are being bad about it, even when they are. It's confusing for an immature kid like you to understand, but I"m sure that if you pull your head out of your pokemon book I'm sure you might realize just how contradictory and dishonest your glorified company is being

37. queen (unregistered) posted on 27 Apr 2011, 15:35 4 3

Lol applesauce, well-said. Gemini: Every smartphone with GPS and location capabilities tracks user location. Tracking users, and user location is the same, is it not? Besides that, as others have already stated, that isn't really the issue. The issue, is that they were doing it without informing people, which is why there is a lawsuit pending. Not to mention that, A. the data is not encrypted, and B. they've been saving a year's worth of data. If Google were doing this, I'm sure people would be upset just the same. Funny though, it seems to be only Apple that ever does these things and then tries to sugarcoat it. They count on the fact that beloved followers like you are going to believe whatever they say, and still continue to use your iPhone while simultaneously sending them your every move. Nice.

44. 530gemini posted on 27 Apr 2011, 18:24 3 2

I know that silly. But what you fandroids are trying to insinuate is, that Apple is actually following users around with bad intentions like exposing where they were last night. Apple does not care about anyone's whereabouts. What they care about is providing better and improved services to their users. As far as informing users and getting users consent on everything that's happening every time a task is executed on a phone, you are out of your mind. What next? Apple and google needing to submit OS algorithms to all users and then get their consent for it before going forward? You're nuts.

54. vishu9 posted on 30 Apr 2011, 10:56 1

really 530gemini?? thats wat u think ppl are upset abt with this issue? that they're upset apple's following them everywhr?! Seriously man, take stock of the whole scenario for once. People are upset bcoz their beloved iPhone's been tracking their location in an UNENCRYPTED file that any other person who has knowledge abt it can easily re-trace their every move!!..and this is being done without even INFORMING or taking the user's PERMISSION as should the normal courtesy! this is what everyone's angry about. if a huge respectable bigwig like Apple is gonna store the users' sensitive data like location then they do need to let tem know they're doing so

45. 530gemini posted on 27 Apr 2011, 18:27 2 3

Not sugarcoating anything. Let Apple and google do whatever they need to do to provide better services to their users, as long as users are protected and not invaded.

What next? Are you going to sue doctors for keeping records of your xray results? Or sue credit card companies for reporting your credit history to credit bureaus w/out your consent. Geez louisse.

43. 530gemini posted on 27 Apr 2011, 18:18 2 2

You are not reading Apple's statements carefully. They do not track any specific user. If they do need data sent back to them, it is anonymized. They do collect some data, but not all of it, only those serving its purpose, and again, when they do, it gets anonymized. Read it again and stop twisting things around or taking their statements out of context.

53. nimo posted on 29 Apr 2011, 06:15

Triangulation is only acuarate to about 50 meters, thats hardly "exactly where the person is"

7. 3MTA3 (unregistered) posted on 27 Apr 2011, 11:24 8 6

Spoken like a true sheep

51. Lucas777 posted on 28 Apr 2011, 00:50 1

haha ur so funnnyyyyyyyyy.. not...

3. PhoneLuver posted on 27 Apr 2011, 10:53 5 4

I have an iPhone and generally I'm very happy with it, but Apple is really starting to irk me with how they address these type of things!

They should move some of the marketing guys to the P.R. department to address issues head on, thus preventing bugs from becoming headline news or people having to file lawsuits to get a response!!

6. 3MTA3 (unregistered) posted on 27 Apr 2011, 11:22 3 4

Instead of moving PR guys to address the issues apple should fire their CEO and get a new one. Good idea, no?

9. doubler86 posted on 27 Apr 2011, 13:09 2 1

Not really no, As arrogant as Steve Jobs is and as much as I don't like him, without him right now, Apple will plummet in sales. He is every apple's fanboy leader, and represents them well. He could however step down from being CEO and just be their spokesman, and I think they'd be just fine.

5. Droid_X_Doug posted on 27 Apr 2011, 11:03 2 2

"They should move some of the marketing guys to the P.R. department..." That won't help until Steve learns not to be defensive and lie when caught red-handed.

8. gomez (unregistered) posted on 27 Apr 2011, 11:24 1 1

are they tracking ipod touch to or not?

18. iHateCrapple posted on 27 Apr 2011, 14:00 1 1

Most likely not if it's only logging cell towers. But who knows what the fruity software is doing.

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