iPhone 4S coming to Cricket in June
1. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Crickets gets both the 4S and the 4 while Tmobile continues to be left out in the cold? If you are going to spend $400 for the 4, you might as well spend the extra $100 for 8 more GB, a faster processor, a better camera, and the ability to make fun of Siri.
3. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
T-Mobile uses different networks and bandwidths, is a GSM carrier, and its only compatible bands with the iphone (for now) are the 2G ones. Personally I don't mind T-Mobile not having it, seeing as what's happened to other carriers that spent so much to get it and haven't had the expected returns yet.
This is the CDMA version, and I think probably the same as Sprint's.
4. darkkjedii (Posts: 11454; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Having it would generate big business for Tmobile
Look at how many people unlock it and take there.
5. moofoodooloo (Posts: 137; Member since: 04 Jan 2011)
AT&T is also uses GSM. I don't forsee T-Mobile making any huge iPhone deals, since they are obviously looking for someone to merge with/buy them out.
9. tedkord (Posts: 4810; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
T-Mo customers, pray daily that your carrier never gets the iPhone. Since Verizon got it, we've lost one year contracts, new every two bonuses, unlimited data, early upgrades. New phone subsidized prices have gone up by about 33%, and they've added a $30 per line upgrade fee. Next, they're going to force us into data pools, where we pay more to share the same data. I don't even have an iPhone, and my costs are skyrocketing so Verizon can pay Apple's subsidy. I'm subsidizing others iPhones.
Just look at the hell Sprint is going through, where they can't possibly turn a profit until 2014 or so because of the heavy subsidy they must pay Apple.
Be very glad T-Mo doesn't have the iPhone, and hope it never does.
10. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Exactly. Sprint has lost money on the deal and won't break even on it for years, if then. T-Mo can keep bringing quality Androids and Windows Phones and data devices and be just fine with me
16. greathero1 (Posts: 483; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
T-Mobile can in fact get the iPhone and still do just fine. Sprint's issue is they pretty much bet the house and purchased a very large quantity of iPhones over a long term. That's why the number looks so large. T-Mobile could easily offer the device and not bet the house on it like Sprint did and do just fine with it. Also, I reason your fees are going up probably has little to do with the iPhone and more to do with carriers trying to squeeze more money out of the consumers. If Android users use more data than the iPhone users and they collectively sell more than the iPhone, how does that equate to the iPhone causing your unlimited data plan to evaporate? As for the prices of phones, you are also a little off. Carriers love the ideas of subsidizing phones and that is the model they have pushed for years and it was great for them when those flip phones only cost them about $200 to $250. With the explosion of smartphone sales which have a price tag of $400 to $600, it is making the old model they loved so much not look so enticing. The profitability on smartphone purchases are now a long term gain while they use to realize profits a lot faster. So to help them realize profits faster, what do they do? They increase fees on everything else (messaging and data). As for unlimited data, that is not a sustainable model for the carriers. Most carriers are already strained whether by network issues or spectrum issues and many of them have less than 50% of all users on smartphones. Imagine once its around 80% and everybody is streaming Netflix, Pandora, Hulu, and many other data hungry applications. You are paying more because of the prices of the phones that have to be subsidized and the strain that they put on the network not because of one device.
22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Ted please try to stay in touch with reality. The iPhone is very profitable for carriers. That's why they do business with Apple.
T-Mobile has publicly stated several times they want an iPhone and the ball is in Apple's court. Box is right the issue is bands.
30. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
verizon actually loses a dollar everytime an iphone is bought. may not sound like much but considering how many people want an iphone, it adds up.
32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
They lose a dollar anytime they sell any phone
33. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
depends on how much the phone has been subsidized. i stay in touch with corperate verizon and i know they make money off every phone with the exception of the iphone.
34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
youre a Verizon rep obviously however they lose money on every phone they sell and make it up on the plans.
35. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
what i was saying is yeah the lose money because they discount the phones so much, but even if someone buys an iphone compared to any other phone they still lose out.
29. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
unlimited data went away because 95% of people using data dont go over 2GB.
36. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
i know people that rock an iphone on tmo. im sure they really want it if theyre willing to shell out 600+ just to turn around and jailbreak it and put it on tmo.
38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
its called a used phone you don't have to shell out that much. Its also unlock not jailbreak
39. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
eh. i guess thats true and if youre going to unlock it might as well jailbreak it too.
12. omarc26 (Posts: 357; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
@ardent must suck for t-mobile good thing im on att which offers the iphone 4s no i dnt have one i have an android phone i will never get an iphone . Sucks for tmo customers ikno a lot of persons on t-mobile that wished t-mobile got the iphone most likely its not gonna happen soon sure these smaller companies get the iphone because they either uses verizons or sprints cdma bands so its not much of a hassle for apple to release the same cdma iphone on those companies t-mobile on the other hand uses the totally different 1700mhz band which i still dnt know the answer to why doesnt apple make an iphone supporting that band? im not on t-mobile like i said but it would be nice if they got an iphone that supports that band for my friends on t-mobile could get one and take advantage of hspa+42 mbps cuz lets face it its fast .
17. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
T-Mobile is moving all their 3G to their 1900MHz band in prep for putting LTE on their 1700MHz band. I believe this is supposed to happen by next summer?
By then, anyone who brings an iPhone will get 3G on the super speedy network.
18. greathero1 (Posts: 483; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
After get this network transition going good, I think TMobile will get the iPhone and market it as a 4G device since the iPhone does go up to 14.4 mbps. Its going to be interesting to see how the network transition goes. Im actually more excited about being able to get other unlocked devices from overseas than the iPhone.
37. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
AT&T and tmo are going to run a dual layered 4g network with HSPA+ and LTE. Im kind of intrigued on how well it will work.
2. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Wow, that's suprisingly low, considering the same models are priced $150 more off-contract on any of the major carriers. Heck, if I remember right, cricket uses sprint's network, so spend an extra $300 to get the phone from cricket off-contract then use it on Sprint without using an upgrade, presuming there's no need to unlock it.
I wonder if this means the prices will drop on other carriers, or if cricket is having the phones locked to their network and are thus eating the $150 dfference?
13. kindlefireowner (Posts: 382; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
You know they are paying the difference. Leap has an investor conference today. I bet they gave away the store.
6. Fallout09 (Posts: 417; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I see a lot of flashed Sprint iPhones moving to Cricket in the near future.......
7. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1006; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
Cricket is going to get the iPhone??? WHY?? last time I checked the iPhone 4S is $199 w/ a 2yr contract SO how much will it be since Cricket doesnt have contracts??
8. skymitch89 (Posts: 1063; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
At least they won't gave to buy an iPhone for $400-$800 and have to pay an additional $50-$100 to have it flashed to Cricket. I knew that once the iPhone started coming to the smaller companies that it would only be a matter of time for it to come to Cricket. Also, although Cricket does have unlimited data, their customers get throttled after 1GB of data use (I know because I've read the fine print on their plan guides).
14. kindlefireowner (Posts: 382; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
On Cricket/Leap Wireless website it says they have a fair uses cap at 2.35gb for the iphone
15. theoak (Posts: 320; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
2.35 before getting throttled, should be plenty.
19. Jyakotu (Posts: 820; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
I did NOT see this coming. That means pretty soon, Metro PCS is going to get the iPhone. And I foresee a lot more people owning iPhones, because I swear, onces Sprint got the iPhone 4, that's all I saw people using.
20. Loafninja (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Jan 2012)
Clarification: Cricket's $55 plan is only 1000 minutes, not unlimited.
24. jamestan23 (Posts: 12; Member since: 31 May 2012)
Wrong. The plan you are referring to is only sold in Best Buy, Walmart, and other big box retailers. That's the the Muve Music PayGo offer...a totally different product.The core $55 smartphone plan (sold in Cricket stores) has unlimited minutes.
21. Jerry209 (Posts: 42; Member since: 17 Sep 2011)
If thie iPhone is going to be for cricket you might as well get an iPod I mean really their network will be really really slow and I use Siri for this comment by the way
26. jamestan23 (Posts: 12; Member since: 31 May 2012)
The 3G network is comparable to Sprint speeds on average (that may not be great but it's certainly not bad). And Cricket has already announced that they will be building out a 4G LTE network...and will have a roaming partnership to share Clear's upcoming 4G LTE network where they don't have native 4G. Dollar for dollar, they're the best value of all the tier 2 carriers.
28. Septembersrain (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 May 2012)
They'll get WiMAX same as we have more likely.
If Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile aren't even getting LTE, Then Cricket likely won't either. Fact is, They tried to sell themselves to Verizon and Verizon declined.
This company is grasping at straws. Even if they did get LTE, I guarantee it won't be $55 dollars a month. If you saw the cost of maintenance for the towers alone, You'd agree.
Sprint is having to shut down all of their Nextel towers just to make the transition to LTE because the signal strength is less prominent. It takes more towers in a smaller area to get the same coverage!
It's known that Clear has spotty coverage at best. Look at Verizons prices for LTE, their coverage area and that's the true market reflection of the cost. =\
40. jamestan23 (Posts: 12; Member since: 31 May 2012)
Your post is full of conjecture and little facts. Cricket will NEVER use WiMax (unless Sprint buys them out and decides otherwise). LEAP announced that LTE was their future path over 2 years ago. And they recently signed a partnership with CLEAR to utilize their forthcoming LTE network (not their legacy WiMax network). None of this is my opinion, and all of it can be validated with a simple google search.
The only thing expensive about LTE is the buildout. Once the network is there, it is more economical, and more efficient in the long run. It's simple math...you can stream more information and you can serve more customers per channel. And it's not as though new towers are being erected with every site launch. In most cases, existing towers are being retro-fitted. It's possible that the cost to the consumer may change but I doubt it will have to do with the rising cost of maintenance. Cricket will likely offer 4G products alongside their 3G product for years to come. Charging more for 4G will discourage adoption...and at the end of the day, the idea is to get everyone to want to switch as fast as possible. Verizon is so intent on getting everyone to use 4G that they've stopped releasing 3G only phones for the rest of 2012.
Sprint has a vested interest in CLEAR's 4G LTE network, so chances are that CLEAR's LTE network will be far more robust that it's wimpy WiMax campaign. Sprint's original 4G partner was supposed to be LightSquared but we all know how that worked out. Sprint just got a huge cash infusion and some of the money is already earmarked for CLEAR LTE. The idea is to have most of the country blanketed in LTE by the end of 2014. That includes both Sprint native LTE and partner CLEAR LTE coverage. Assuming Cricket isn't sold by then, this is very promising for their future as an independent carrier.
23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
This will lead to increased market share for Apple
27. Septembersrain (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 May 2012)
Ridiculous. My Evo V 4G and even my Evo 4G on Virgin Mobile and Boost Mobile respectively are better than this. $299.99 for the phones, Plus 4G, and not to mention it's not in the land of dropped calls, multi-sent text messages and horrible data speeds. =]
LOL I think the iPhone is overrated. Too pricey and as it's shown itself, It's really not that "Technologically" advanced compared with an Android. Sure, Back in the day it was quite a wonderful brand for advancement. We have to face it; Along with Steve, The company has died in terms of innovation. Apple used to be quite a wonderful company.
41. jamestan23 (Posts: 12; Member since: 31 May 2012)
WiMax is horrible. I use a Samsung Epic. The 4G network speeds are so inconsistent and the 4G signal drops out so much that I am on 3G for the majority of my day. And before you make any geographic assumptions, I am in Baltimore City...the very FIRST city to get WiMax. Even when I have steady 4G, there is barely any noticeable difference in speed. T-Mobile 4G speeds humiliate Sprint. Virgin and Boost will experience initial growth due to being able to market 4G...but it won't change the fact that WiMax is a certified stinker. In another 2 years, Boost and Virgin will be switching to LTE too.
Again, you need to leave your conjecture out of the argument. Your opinions on the iPhone are contrary to reality. Whether you care to admit it or not, Apple rules the wireless world. If you need a reminder, go check out their stock.
43. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
WiMAX has HORRIBLE speeds. 0.41mbps download in Chicsgo? Oh God. T-Mobile puts Sprint to shame with its 42mbps radios. My brother averages 24mbps every single day.
LTE speeds at half the cost. :)
45. Septembersrain (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 May 2012)
The iPhone 4s is really only capable of 3.5 at the highest to be technically correct.
46. Septembersrain (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 May 2012)
Apple is losing it's innovation. I never used to dislike Apple. My major qualm is that they no longer have any customization abilities, their hardware is no longer cutting edge and they are selling these phones (Made in the same country as Androids, China) for triple the price.
I wouldn't put too much faith in the stock market. Some of the largest higher grossing companies have had their stocks plummet in a matter of days.
My real issue here isn't really the phone so much as the carrier they are releasing it to. They won't be getting 4G on this phone. The price as well, it's just insanely ridiculous.
Also, Cricket tried to sell themselves to Verizon. They were actually in talks about filing for bankruptcy.
44. jose702 (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Jun 2012)
I wonder what there gonna do with the sim card tray on the 4s, I wonder if cricket is gonna leave it unlocked for international travel. Or lock it like Verizon and cricket and then unlock it after 90 days or something.
47. bitchPLZ (Posts: 1; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
you guys are nothing but big geeks just get a damn that you can call on! :P