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Steve Ballmer on Windows Phone: “We haven’t sold quite as many as I would have liked”

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Steve Ballmer on Windows Phone: “We haven’t sold quite as many as I would have liked”
You’ve heard it before - Steve Ballmer has previously mentioned that Windows Phone sales have gone “from very small to very small,” but now nearly a year has passed since the launch of WP7 and Microsoft’s chief executive officer drew some obvious conclusions. “We haven’t sold quite as many as I would have liked,” Ballmer said. Well, analysts have actually pointed out that after Windows Phone 7, Microsoft’s platform share on the market fell behind that of Samsung’s bada, which is plain bad. 

But the outspoken CEO remained optimistic about the future. With DirectX graphics and better mobile version of Internet Explorer, Windows Phone will aim to take that magical third ecosystem position. “I’m not saying I love where we are but I am very optimistic on where we can be,” Ballmer added. “We’ve just got to kick this thing to the next level.”

It seems, though, kicking things to the next level is what Microsoft’s mobile platforms have been trying to do in the last couple of years. The one major thing that’s changed now is not only the new, reworked WP7 with Mango, but also the support of Nokia, which has put all its horses on Windows Phone. So far, that has only contributed to Espoo’s market share slumping down at an alarming rate as it wrote off Symbian as a burning platform. But for Microsoft it seems that it has only brought benefits: “With Nokia we have a dedicated hardware partner that is all-in on Windows Phones,” Ballmer noted. “They are not doing something on Android or [any other operating system].”

The Mango update has reached its peak and the first Mango phones like the Samsung Focus S and Focus Flash are rumored to roll out on AT&T on September 18th, so we’ll soon know for sure whether Redmond has kicked it off to the next level. Patience is all it takes.


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posted on 15 Sep 2011, 04:51 2

1. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


" fell behind that of Samsung’s bada, which is plain bad"
that's not bad, that is expected. bada is a much better OS than WP7, so that's nothing surprising.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:02 13

2. Bob (unregistered)


LOL! Stop trolling man, we all know that's not true.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:10 4

3. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


We all know that bada is better than WP7,it is a fact that bada has more functions than WP7, you can't deny it. And in my opinion bada has a much better UI too, but other people have different taste, so some people might actually like the metro UI on WP7 better than bada's UI.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:11 2

4. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


People vote with their wallets. If they like WP7, then they buy WP7. If they like bada, they buy bada. More people buy bada, means more people like bada better.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:35 11

7. droidnator (Posts: 87; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)


How many times can you write "bada" in a f**n sentence? Seriously, stop trolling.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:45 1

8. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


how many times can you mention android in an article ?
As long as i'm on topic i can mention bada as many times as i like !

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:01 8

9. droidnator (Posts: 87; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)


Lame argument. Articles are something different, besides no author uses "Android" as often as you use "bada". And in this case it's comments we are talking about. Your annoying bada-infested comments. I get it - you like that OS, but you are getting overboard with it!

And you are offtopic - the article is about WP7, while you turn the attention to another OS that was barely mentioned, and turn this discussion thread into a bada discussion. Troll.

Oh, and you can stop thumbing your posts up.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:07 1

10. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I'm not off topic. They mentioned bada, and my comment was about their mention of bada.

I'm not using the word bada, more than any of you are using the word android or iphone.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:20 6

12. droidnator (Posts: 87; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)


See? I told you you are getting overboard, and that you are annoying!

In a short comment of two sentences you used "the B word" 3 times! Ever heard of synonyms? You can substitute that damn word with "it", "OS", "platform", whatever!!!

And bada was mentioned EXACTLY once in the article, and look at you - clogging the thread with offtopics because of one simple mention. How old are you anyway?

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:17 1

11. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Who says i'm thumbing my own posts up when i'm not ?

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 18:39 2

56. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Stop, brother.

Just...stop.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:24 4

14. daniel_bargs (Posts: 325; Member since: 27 Nov 2010)


i do believe much in Microsoft when it comes to softwares but hey, Samsung with their bada? that is a great mistake samsung did.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 07:19 2

19. BadaCurious (unregistered)


Is the Wave the only Bada phone so far? Is it available in the States? If so, is there a CDMA version? I know its selling like hot cakes some places and I'm curious to try it and see what its like.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 08:59 1

27. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


There are more phones with bada than just the wave. There is also the Wave 2 and the recently announced Wave 3 (with awesome specifications). There are also quite alot of cheap phones with bada as well.
I don't think bada phones are available in the US with any carrier (yet), but you should be able to buy from online stores like amazon or ebay.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 18:46 1

58. BaduCurious (unregistered)


Yes, I've seen them but I've never seen a CDMA Wave. I don't want GSM.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 11:00 2

39. THEJET88 (Posts: 18; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)


Aye peter Why don't you just go to the bada section of this website???..... Oh yeah i forgot.......

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:25 5

5. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 944; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)


Dude you really need to find a hobby... or a girlfriend.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 05:32 1

6. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I'm just correcting a little misstake that Phonarena did, they forgot to mention what i wrote above.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:21 1

13. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)


Ballmer sure is entertaining to me.

What a character

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:33 2

15. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Yeah, he is entertaining : P

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 06:39

16. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)


How you doing today Pete?

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 08:15 1

23. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I'm fine thanks, and you ?
I'm trying out the win 8 developer preview today : )

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 07:07 3

17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i love the stock picture of balmer that they use whenever he says something. looks like he is in the middle of an "evil laugh" after a long diatribe describing what his evil plan is.. lol.

back to the article

bada is a feature phone OS. no smartphone wants to be behind a featurephone fighting for last place.. lol.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 08:23 1

24. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I too find that picture of ballmer hilarious : P
When it comes to bada, it is not a feature phone OS no matter how many times you say it. It is a smarphone OS. Now, go check it out before you say anyhing like this again. Go and have a look atwww.bada.com

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 09:02

28. hepresearch (unregistered)


... and BREW MP claims to be a "smartphone platform", too...

;-P

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 09:15 1

30. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


brew has nothing to do with bada.
bada has, multitaksing, HTML 5, Flash lite, Voice recognition, samsungapps app store *(with more than 6500 apps for the wave), file manager. And you can personalize bada more than you can with Symbian, WP7 and IOS !

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 11:36 2

40. antifanboy (unregistered)


You must be kidding! almost 3000 of your 6500 "apps" are Themes, what is nothing else than an icon-set and a view more graphics! The appstore is really the biggest crap i have ever seen. This year there have been more themes released than apps! And the quality of these so called apps is unbelievable bad, you don't believe it.
Even the new browser of bada 2.0 is crap. Bada 2.0 has still got the agps bug, which is known since more than a year and samsung is still ignoring it. i'm sure it won't be fixed in the final release.
Nobody should be wondering why bada sold more devices than wp7. it's because they have crappy devices which are sold below 100€. the other devices have a brillant hardware, which attracts many people, and many of them are pissed later by the crappy bada os.
i have already written it somewhere else: i have devices with symbian, bada, android, wp7, and iOS: Bada is definetivley the worst one!

And now please stop trolling!

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 13:34 1

46. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Just to clarify something, i have had Android, WP7 symbian (still have 2 phones with symbian) and bada. And bada definitely is the best ; ) WP7 comes in at second and Android at third, with symbian at last place.

there is not 3000 themes !!!
Of the 6500 apps, about 1000-1500 of them are themes.

with the first Wave s8500, the GPS did not work. However, with the Wave 2 s8530 the GPS is fixed and it works perfectly.

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 17:11 1

53. antifanboy (unregistered)


it's ok to give your opinion. but lying isn't fair.
It is proven that Agps is broken on any bada device so far. even with bada 2.0. search the web. and remember, there is a difference between gps and agps, what means the internet part isn't working.
and yes there are almost 3000 themes, you can find exactly 2882 themes for wave 1 or 2. check samsungapps.com! and most of them were released this year. by the end of the year 2010 there were about 3000 apps. this means there was a growth of 1000-2000 apps. and almost noone was a major one.
check this site:http://www.krishanadmin.de/samsungapps/
there you can sort between apps and themes. you will find that almost twice as much themes as apps have been the last weeks!
Noone is satisfied with samsungs appstore. even the biggest bada enthusiasts i know are complainging about that und you are trying to tell folks your bada kids crap is the best OS. ridiculous!

posted on 15 Sep 2011, 11:42

41. hepresearch (unregistered)


hmmm... let's see, Flash lite, Voice recognition, apps and app store, file manager, personalization... this sounds a lot like another "OS" that's out there. In fact, their motto even proves that they have "apps"... so here's the million-dollar question: Which platform is marketed under the motto "How the other half apps"?

I'll give you three guesses...

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