Samsung denies cheating on benchmark tests
1. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Just like former world class atheletes., I didn't dope!
49. Commentator (Posts: 3701; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Ryan Braun would fit in just fine as their spokesman.
55. LG_is_the_best (unregistered)
Cheaters never lose, and losers never cheat
71. JC557 (Posts: 1540; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Take a look at the Anandtech article on this. It's pretty evident that all OEMs have some cheats up their sleeves so Samsung shouldn't be so quick to deny it.
74. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
At the Anandtech article “ONLY” Samsung, Asus, LG, and HTC is proven of cheating in android benchmarks.
76. joey_sfb (Posts: 5809; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
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83. JC557 (Posts: 1540; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
That leaves only Motorola and Nexus branded phones... though one could argue that it's just Google that's not cheating as Moto belonogs to them now.
No Sonys on the chart so it remains to be seen, but pretty much all major OEMs "optimize" a bit while some go too far.
86. JC557 (Posts: 1540; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
About the Note 3, I'm curious if the increase in thermal headroom has anything to do with better benchmark scores. The CPU and GPU might be able to run a bit less restricted.
90. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
*Motorola, Nexus, and NVIDIA.
*“ALMOST” all Android OEMs.
80. blazee (Posts: 409; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
This just further solidifies my choice in only getting nexus devices. Google seems to be trying to create a great user experience rather than try to deceive and cheat to sell their devices. Sad that there might be time wasted before rolling out a system update because of optimization and tweaking solely to achieve higher benchmark scores by some manufacturers.
85. JC557 (Posts: 1540; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
There's an alarming amount of Samsung apologists... seems like they're on their way to becoming what they accuse Apple users of.
Every OEM needs to be scrutinized since consumers and not bah bahs should control the market trends.
2. Ninetysix (Posts: 2445; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
BS again. If that was the case, the gpu/cpu speeds should be the same EVEN if you rename the application.
3. datsyuk (Posts: 179; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
In other words they only "maximize" the CPU/GPU on benchmark tests.
41. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Agree, Samsung didn't fake benchmark results, only "boosts" the CPU/GPU on benchmark tests. So on the one hand it is not cheating because results are real. But on the other hand it still tricks user to think that CPU/GPU always runs with high performance but it is not true, CPU/GPU runs full power only with benchmark apps.
50. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
This is like Intels turbo boost. It is not cheating it just boost performance when needed if the chip is at good temperatures. Samsung could shut everyone up if they added to the specs sheet with "SBoost" up to 2.5ghz in applications that need it or whatever.
60. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Samsung could shut everyone up if they added to the specs sheet with "SBoost" up to 2.5ghz in applications that need it or whatever."
Actually Samsung already made such list, but the problem is that on this list is only benchmark applications and that's why now we see such scandal about cheating.
73. tedkord (Posts: 11888; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's not what happens. They don't overclock, they just ramp the CPU/GPU to max for the test, rather than letting the app load determine the speed. It's not technically a cheat, a cheat would be giving a false number that it didn't achieve. It's more of a best case scenario.
But it's misleading, so I have no problem with the word cheat.
52. HansGoneInsane (unregistered)
But you said yourself that Samsung tricks his customers by creating the illusion that they could get the same performance when not running benchmarks. The word "trick" is a synonym for the word "cheat". In other words: Samsung cheats on his customers by purposely creating wrong impressions of its products.
61. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
They trick their customers with ads and everybody fakes benchmarks because idiots believe phones are only as good as their benchmarks show. The only benchmarks should be real world performance ones like how much FPS a game gets or how fast a zip files compresses or how quick it can encode a video. Artificial benchmarks like antutu give you a false idea of how powerful a device is. Some roms have the Samsung cpu auto overclock crap deleted and it makes benchmark scores drop but the device will be much more smooth/efficient with all the optimization and such. There are also roms that target benchmarks to give you higher scores so you can feel better about yourself if your one of those people.
66. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Samsung didn't fake benchmark results, CPU/GPU really achieves such results. The problem is that user by default can't achieve such CPU/GPU power while using other games and applications. CPU/GPU runs full powe only with benchmark applications which are specified on the list.
It is like a cars engine with limiter which restrict engine's maximum rotational speed. Car really can go faster just need to remove limiter.
Anyway, I agree that such things sucks! :(
75. tedkord (Posts: 11888; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
They don't only run full tilt then. Any good benchmark should taboo them to full anyway. If an app or game doesn't, it's because it doesn't need it.
7. Ninetysix (Posts: 2445; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Yes. Just wait a little longer for the Samsung herd to post. It'll come....trust me :)
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