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Report: Microsoft running behind on finishing WP8

Report: Microsoft running behind on finishing WP8
Nokia, Samsung, and HTC have a problem: They are scheduled to ship Windows Phone 8 devices in the coming weeks, but Microsoft hasn’t finished the eponymous operating system yet. This is according to The Verge, who confirms from unnamed sources that Microsoft has significantly missed their original time frame, which was supposed to involve WP8 launching in early October, ahead of the Windows 8/RT launch later that month. Now Microsoft has tentatively targeting October 29th as the software launch of WP8, with handsets set to go on sale in November.

The original timeline was apparently scuttled by a series of bugs and feature delays – apparently HTC in particular has had a difficult time eliminating the bugs from WP8 builds, and this was explicitly cited as the reason why HTC had to schedule a much later announcement of its WP8. While Samsung and Nokia have made announcements, it’s worth noting that neither launch event allowed journalists to spend any time with the devices, and subsequent PR events have either involved the handling of dummy phones, or putting live phones behind glass.

Microsoft is said to be working at a feverish pace to take WP8 gold later this week or early next. Even if they hit that date though, it puts carriers and OEMs in a bit of a bind. We analyzed this problem a bit when discussing the putative November 2nd launch date for the Nokia 920 – оnce Nokia (or other OEMs) get the final gold version from Microsoft (presumably mid-September at the earliest) they will have six weeks at best to finishing integrating and trouble-shooting the final software onto their handsets, get them to carriers, and have the carriers successfully test and certify them for launch. Verizon routinely pushed back launches by that much when they don’t like the initial round of testing (See: Verizon Galaxy Nexus), so despite Microsoft’s efforts to reduced testing time this is an exceptionally compressed timeline.

Report: Microsoft running behind on finishing WP8
According to The Verge, some carriers may go without the usual bloatware for the initial launch to help shorten the testing period (any additional software has to be tested) and it’s easy to imagine that some OEM customizations may get squeezed out as well in an attempt to meet deadlines. But those deadlines are important – an early November launch coupled with a strong Windows RT marketing push (possibly helping to drive up interest in the new UI) would still allow the bulk of holiday shoppers to take a serious look at WP8 this year. Pushing the launch dates back by 3-4 weeks would end with December launches (possibly mid-December for Samsung or HTC), and would really gut the roll out of WP8.

Even a small delay of a week or two could place the launch of WP8 devices behind the expected onslaught of multiple Android Nexus devices this fall, making it that much harder to make a splash. We’re sure everyone is working as hard as they can, but such rush jobs also invite the risk of significant bugs slipping through – which could also hurt word of mouth. In short, the teams at Microsoft, Nokia, Samsung, and HTC need to hurry up but not do a rush job, and the initial success or failure of WP8 may depend on how well they can balance those opposing needs.

It will be a huge engineering challenge, and we certainly wish them all the best of luck. How do you see this playing out? Let us know in the comments section below!

source: The Verge

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posted on 11 Sep 2012, 14:47 19

1. arsenaljimenez (Posts: 178; Member since: 03 May 2012)


I just want it in my hands already :P

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 17:21

27. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


WP8 is still in the lab.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 19:28 2

37. MeoCao (unregistered)


That's is the main reason why you should never rely on MS exclusively. Years of monopoly have taken creativity and professionalism from MS.

posted on 12 Sep 2012, 06:32 1

56. cdgoin (Posts: 538; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


Right because Apple isn't trying to be a monopoly and iOS is so innovative.. oh wait.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 22:27 1

43. RobotMan (Posts: 145; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Another beta tester for micro soft.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 14:48 6

2. bbonline (Posts: 38; Member since: 24 Feb 2011)


Microsoft needs to get it together and release this in no time or they risk losing marketshare for another year. Not good...

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 18:11

32. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Exactly!!! If Micro"soft" had any backbone Windows 8 would have came out a month ago. And your going to release it after a major iPhone redesign (in Appleland 0.5 inch is major for them, not Android). Just plan stupid.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 19:27 2

36. Alistaire (Posts: 132; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I rather they get it right. Not in a rush. Still very happy with my WP7.5. Will definitely upgrade to WP8 when it's ready.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 14:54 9

3. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Update: Microsoft still running behind on finishing Windows Mobile 7.5!

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:42 11

16. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


"windows mobile" is dead.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 22:28

44. RobotMan (Posts: 145; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


That one will never finish.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 14:57 5

4. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Nokia needs to release the f**king 920 on all carriers except sprint of course. Polish the os and take your time. Please the 920-Verizon, ATT, Tmo!. Everyone know why ios always stable and ready for update and release after announcement? Because the os hasn't changed much since launch! Its just that every year they make little addictions to keep, you know who coming back.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:02 3

6. rsiders (Posts: 976; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


They do need to release on all carriers cause as a T-Mobile I'm really tired of the little brother affect and that's not just with Nokia but Samsung and HTC as well. ATT got the best of all Windows Phones while T-Mobile got the midrange offerings. And if T-Mobile is solely to blame for this trend, they need to get it together.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:19

10. Rydsmith (Posts: 538; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


Your last sentence hit it on the head. T-Mobile is the one to blame as they did not want the Lumia 900, they want the "little brother" phones on their line up and do not want to the higher quality experience.

For example:
- HTX One X vs One S

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:37

13. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


How do you explain GS3 and their short stint with GS note? Tmo is just a 4th place carrier that will never move forward or back.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 18:04

30. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


Yeah, G-Note about a week or two before the new G-Note is announced. Tmo needs to kick it in gear, the SIII is the only thing they've really grabbed that's good.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:37

14. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Maybe AT&T is outbidding T-Mo for the phones?

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:43

17. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


They must of all won gs3 and iPhone on the same bid.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 17:39

28. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


why except for sprint?

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 22:10

40. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Sprint is too heavily invested in the iFail, their current network is minimally effective at structure penetration, the only part of their current network that will still be running in 3-5 years is the new LTE that they just started rolling out, and their current business plan is unsustainable unless they have the customer base of AT&T or Verizon and customers that use their phones like they were in the late "oughts".

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 14:59 1

5. rsiders (Posts: 976; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


I'll wait it out and see what happens. I'm counting on Microsoft to get it right though. With the new iPhone set to release and already be in the hands of consumers and the relentless releases of Android devices, Microsoft cannot afford to sit on the sidelines and watch the market share continue to be eaten up.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:03 3

7. BigSupes (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


"some carriers may go without the usual bloatware for the initial launch to help shorten the testing period" - You do realise that WP doesn't suffer from bloatware? All OEM apps are 'optional' and can be uninstalled on WP.

Microsoft know better than anyone not to rush out software. WP is a solid and reliable platform and it's obvious Microsoft want to keep it that way.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:42 1

15. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


They may be uninstallable (yay!) but I know that my Lumia came preinstalled with AT&T Navigator, AT&T Radio, Slacker Radio, MyAT&T Account Manager, AT&T Code Scanner (even though the Bing search app does code reading), ESPN (Nokia's, not AT&T's, I"ll grant), and I think a couple others. Not bad, but I could have downloaded them if I'd wanted them. Wound up uninstalling all of the above and the first stuff I was downloading came from the Nokia Collection. The N-named apps are my most populated section, with Nokia's City Lens, Drive, Maps, Music, Pulse, and Transit

posted on 12 Sep 2012, 06:18

55. BigSupes (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Attempting to down-play the importance of being able to uninstall these apps is weak. Try uninstalling some of the carrier/OEM bloatware on Android without rooting. . . now, that's bloatware.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:04 3

8. darkvadervip (Posts: 365; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


I rather them get it right than have force closed issues like most Android phones. Don't get me wrong I own a sg3 but hate when it freezes or goes to force close on an app.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 22:33

45. RobotMan (Posts: 145; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Yeh, we believe you own sg3. The KIRF version. Do you think we are all small kid here ?

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:08 3

9. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Take your time Microsoft. A Verizon Galaxy Note 2 is calling my name.

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 15:21 2

11. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Microsoft will outsell the Galaxy Note 2; they will sell 100,000 units (of the 10,000,000 they ship).

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 16:16 1

22. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


fans of high quality flimsy plastic are we? doesnt anyone care about quality any more?

posted on 11 Sep 2012, 17:00

26. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


Nokia is also plastic.
Dude STFU about WP8, I agree it will be good, but it won't beat Android, maybe iOS

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