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Munster: Apple will phase out iPhone in favor of a 'mixed reality' headset in 15 years

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Munster: Apple will phase out iPhone in favor of a 'mixed reality' headset in 15 years
Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster has sent out a research note to clients, saying that Apple is working on AR/VR systems that will lead to the eventual phasing out of the iPhone. Replacing the iconic handset would be a mixed reality device, or something similar to that. But the analyst doesn't see this happening for at least 15 years.

Mixed reality devices are wearables that use a series of embedded sensors and cameras that combine holographic images with real life. Munster sees smartphones eventually progressing into these AR/VR devices. Even with all of its patents and the R&D Apple is doing in this space, the analyst doesn't expect the company to release any AR/VR hardware for some time. Instead, next year he expects to see third party outfits experimenting with AR/VR products based on the iPhone and iPad.

That would be followed in 2018 with Apple offering a way to allow developers to offer AR/VR devices that would be certified for the iPhone, under the "Made for iPhone" program that Apple currently has in place for accessory manufacturers. Munster told his clients, "We believe 10 years from now Generation Z will find reality inefficient. We believe the concept of an 'inefficient reality' is evident through smartphone use today — the precursor to mixed reality — offering users the ability to find more information as needed." 

source: AppleInsider

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posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:05 12

1. bradley8795 (Posts: 61; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


I seriously just looked at the calendar 3 times to make sure it wasn't April 1st.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:44 6

6. sgodsell (Posts: 3358; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


"Mixed realitly headset". Is Apple going to make their own Project Ara, after Google's?

Or is Apple going to finally increase the iPhones resolution. Everyone knows that an iPhone 6/6s gives you the worse experience for VR. The resolution is a joke on those phones. You only get a maximum resolution of 667x750 pixels per eye for VR. Talk about pixelated.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 05:16 1

14. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Only for Vrs that use the screen, for other the resolution will be higher as the device can render.
You are not going to play games in resolution higher than 1080p on phone in the next 5 years the GPUs of ALL manufactures are just to week

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 07:35

19. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Vainglory, released 2014 December. 1080p Full HD @ 60FPS. This is automatic on iOS devices. On Android you need to switch on full graphics performance and hope to God your Droid can handle it.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:22 1

31. Shocky (unregistered)


The iPhone 6/s only have a 1334 x 750 display yet they run Vainglory at 1080p

Sure.

Also it runs at the native resolution, so for my PIxel C that's 2560*1600

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:27

33. Shocky (unregistered)


2560*1800, when set to full quality.

It runs fantastic btw.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 01:46

38. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Run it on a 6 or 6s plus,,, an iPad Air, Air 2, Mini 2,3, or 4,,, or better yet, an iPad Pro (even though it's not yet optimized for the pro it's still glorious). ONLY the Nvidia shield can compete. Not many people like playing VG on the small 6S screen. even though any iPhone (including the 5s) runs it flawlessly thanks to metal. And the point behind it all is that dev's were making use of FHD graphics in mobile games for a while, and to assume that they would stagnate and not improve is just silly.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:59

34. downphoenix (Posts: 3155; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


any idea if an S810 equipped GFlex 2 can handle it?

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 02:14

43. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Even if it could it would be horrible playing on a curved display.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 17:55

48. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Games with very bad graphics like angry birds might start to come out with higher resolution but for high quality games with good graphics it will take time... Just look what video cards you need to play on high settings and 1440/2160 beast like R9 390 and GTX 970... mobile gpus are joke, for now developers will do stuffs like better textures and use more polygons but will not increase resolution on high demanding games.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 08:08

24. French_Toast (Posts: 83; Member since: 02 Sep 2015)


Much hope before the fall of the new BlackBerry 2010s

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:12

28. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


first they will have to wait 3 years to copy samsungs vr setup then a year later then can get there hands on windows ar and backward engineer it to find out what they can use and upgrade on the 3 year old tech.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:06 3

2. kajam (Posts: 203; Member since: 24 Jun 2015)


Are you kidding in 15 year AR/VR will be history

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:10

3. AlikMalix (Posts: 5238; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Probably contact lense type of thing - like in continuum tv series.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:16

29. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


thats based on the google contact lense that monitors blood glucose levels.
did not get into continuum but i see it like the syfy show the EXPANSE with the spy that has the contact or eye implant that connects to networks and takes pics and video and also does a engineering spec look up for repairs and other phone things, they have a holographic phone on clear acrylic

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:27 6

4. Wiencon (Posts: 1818; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


In 15 years it will be Apple that phases out

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:55 1

8. cnour (Posts: 589; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)


In your dream baby

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:32

5. Martineverest (Posts: 252; Member since: 27 Oct 2015)


iEYE or ilens? Loading..... Microsoft is far ahead of anybody.. Another pc-like dominance is loading

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 02:35

10. Deca-core (Posts: 75; Member since: 20 Nov 2015)


loading failed

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 02:38

11. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


You do know Steve Jobs and the "i" era are dead right? Or is it that your still living in the past with your faith in Microsoft?

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 01:55 4

7. Nallaikumaran (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 14 Sep 2015)


AppleInsider - Dishonest shameless and ruthless business media (Apple fascist). Dishonest Shameless Liars... iPhonearena...? F.. u..

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 02:34 1

9. Planterz (Posts: 2038; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Like the EyePhone in Futurama?

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 02:39

12. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Dear droid boys, please try to remember that this article does not state that Apple will only enter the AR/VR game in 15 years. They will join the race much sooner than that. We all know that they don't need to be the first to come out with something, to be the best.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 03:22 2

13. cnour (Posts: 589; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)


To be the leader not only the best.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 07:36

20. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Correct you are sir.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:19

30. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


its not a race, the race is over almost everyone one out there has had vr for years even youtube, and my gear vr milk vr got a update that allows me to change vr 3d type in the video between 5 types.
apple is so far behind just now thinking about it after cook said its silly
its like the note/phablet all over again.
apple will come in 2 years from now and release a gear vr look alike

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 01:50

39. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Apple was the last to join the smartwatch market. The rest all had a few years advantage,,, BUT,,, One guess as to who owns that market now? Yup, it's Apple. And right you are, it will take about 2 years or so. Then they will take the market, and make it, it's own. They will show the industry, how it should have been done all along. And the industry will follow suit, as per normal. The iPhone did it, the iPad did it, The Watch did it, The TV did it... This too is no exception.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 02:03

42. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Another thing, You think the VR Race is over? When the world's first REAL consumer ready VR device the Rift is yet to launch? With it's only real competition being the Vive, which btw is also not yet available. How thick are you? That crap made by Samsung, and even that one designed for iPhone, are mere tastes of what real VR is. Pathetic comparisons to REAL VR actually. The race barely started! Lastly, mixed reality, is something special. Not requiring glasses or goggles of any kind. Kind of like hololens on steroids without that lense.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 05:26

15. darkkjedii (Posts: 20113; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


When I was a kid, I always heard cars would be flying by the year 2000. Hmmm...

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 05:51 2

16. Michael.Parker (Posts: 273; Member since: 22 Aug 2015)


Can't wait for 15 years to see distracted hipsters with their headsets falling off cliffs like Lemmings as Apple maps is still badly inaccurate.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 06:14

17. darkkjedii (Posts: 20113; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You actually typed and posted that!?!

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 06:58 1

18. Michael.Parker (Posts: 273; Member since: 22 Aug 2015)


Sorry I'll follow your example and stick to dull and factual from now on.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 07:39 1

21. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


@MikeParker Hi Mike, is it fine if I call you Mike? Half witted and in-accurate doesn't exactly do wonders for your appearance. Unless court jester is your desired title some day.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 08:01 1

23. Michael.Parker (Posts: 273; Member since: 22 Aug 2015)


What lovely people we have here, unless judgemental ass is your desired title for today.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 08:24 1

25. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


I'm usually a judgemental ass everyday, occasionally a shallow judgemental ass. Sometimes I'm just an ass in general :)

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 08:39

27. darkkjedii (Posts: 20113; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Good post.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 09:23

32. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3272; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


realist get real, apples maps is still a joke and i do not jest.
just listen to one of your own brian tong on apple byte cnet
last video he said it still sucks.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 01:53

40. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Who gives a s**t? Apple maps has never failed me personally. So the impact to my life? Zero. Brian tong can suck on a tong for all I care.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 07:39

22. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


So....they are saying Apple is going to phase out the biggest money maker for the company, the product that basically saved them....in favor of a technology that has a 50/50 chance of being niche, a flop or a success.

Alrighty then.

If you can use a VR headset to answer, talk on the phone, at best I see it being used in the home alot to replace talking on the phone. But out n about? Phones still have that on lock.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 08:26

26. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


VR/AR is still in it's infancy.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 12:38

36. jsobotka (Posts: 40; Member since: 21 Aug 2009)


The fact that:
a) you think a company should stick with it's biggest money maker forever, and
b) you are not forward thinking enough to recognize the unbelievably huge potential that AR/VR has (e.g. you think VR is only good for replacing talking on the phone? lol)

...explains why you are not a successful CEO like Steve Jobs.

Remember this article and your post when you are "out n about" with your AR glasses in 10 years.

Alrighty then?

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 01:53

41. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Exactly! Also does he think that the iPhone will forever and a day be their main cash cow? It's already reaching the stages of flattening out. Progress requires innovation not stagnation.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 06:58

45. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I suggest you guys read my post a lil more carefully, ok?

....for using it to replace the iPhone....is why I mentioned it for talking on the phone.

What is this article about? Apple phasing out the iPhone for VR.

If you phase out a mobile phone for VR, whats Apple, iPhone users going to use to talk on the phone? That VR device. Or the competition. You decide whats the best move for Apple in that scenario.

Steve Jobs isnt running Apple anymore....

A smarter business move...IMO.... is to not phase out the iPhone but have it live on until its no longer selling. If 15 years from now its still selling like hotcakes....why phase it out?

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 08:16

46. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Ok. i re read it, veeeerrrry slooooowly, then I read your most recent post again, and again. And yup. You're still an idiot. I dont mean to be rude so please dont take it as such. It's just very hard to believe you STILL dont get it.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 12:04

35. Bernoulli (Posts: 3808; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


15 years from now the iPhone will finally ge ois and be 15" tall.

posted on 09 Feb 2016, 18:10

37. 0kax0el0 (Posts: 153; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


Of course is easy to make that bold statement, given the world is gonna end in 14 years.

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 03:02

44. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)


Really? Like it ended in y2k? Or wait, like it ended in 2012?

posted on 10 Feb 2016, 10:32

47. 0kax0el0 (Posts: 153; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


Exactly! But even if the world doesn't end, nobody will remember Piper's prediction.

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