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Leaked Samsung docs show Galaxy S7 testing with Snapdragon 820 and Android M

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Leaked Samsung docs show Galaxy S7 testing with Snapdragon 820 and Android M
Remember the rumors that Samsung is testing the next Galaxy S7 with Qualcomm chipsets, as well as with its own custom Exynos chippery? Well, according to a report from a well-versed industry insider who posted some leaked docs on their Weibo account, Samsung is indeed toying around with a Snapdragon 820 variation of the S7.

Codenamed "Jungfrau," the Galaxy S7 might see a month or two faster development schedule than the Galaxy S6, courtesy of an improved project management process, dubbed "Agile." This could very well jibe with the previous rumors that Galaxy S7 will be ready in the second half of the year, though it might not exactly hit the shelves in time for Christmas, but rather be announced earlier than usual when 2016 hits.

In any case, turning back to the leaked Samsung docs below, these are for the internal Android M upgrade schedule, and on one we can clearly see the codename Jungfrau used along with the "hero" device notation, while on the other the Galaxy S7 Jungfrau is listed with a Qualcomm MSM8996 version, which is the internal codename of none other but Snapdragon 820. In a nutshell, Samsung might indeed be testing Galaxy S7 with both a new Exynos, and the upcoming Snapdragon scorcher, while the Android M update work has obviously been greenlit, too, so we might indeed witness a sped-up development scenario for Samsung's next flagship.


source: KJuma (Weibo) via G4Games

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posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:19 4

1. Zomer (Posts: 252; Member since: 31 May 2013)


Yeah, because it's real hard to fake those images.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:24 1

4. neela_akaash (Posts: 1112; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Hope they increase the battery size...

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:26 4

6. BLUEBLASTER (Posts: 267; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)


LOL remember this is Samsung the phone will be slimmer so battery will be the same or less.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:33 14

9. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsungs-new-battery-tech-can-fit-4000-mAh-in-the-size-of-the-Galaxy-S6-juicer_id70882

LOL

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:30 5

22. BLUEBLASTER (Posts: 267; Member since: 23 Feb 2014)


But will it be ready in time?

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:15 4

28. bur60 (Posts: 832; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)


Remember last year they said something about same size 200% more capacity? It takes almost 10years to implement these things, (6 yrs testing for safety etc)

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:29

55. Macready (Posts: 831; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


A) Samsung never said that, developers of battery tech did, probably trying to market it without mentioning the tons of usual caveats. Samsung develops *and* fabricates and they have promised up to 80% increase in the coming 3 years or so. In use, in their phones. And not in one step, but in several steps.

B) Next, look at the leaked Note 5 specs. Up to 27% increase in capacity over the Note 4 in a slightly narrower and considerably thinner body.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:12 1

49. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Maybe not in 2016 but 2017 for sure

posted on 29 Aug 2015, 17:21

74. robertkoa (Posts: 87; Member since: 27 Apr 2014)


Samsung has great R&D and Engineering but the common sense of an Avocado ....

Since they have abandoned Pro Devices after Note 4- I am hoping that they will have
"Pro" Versions of their top Devices:
S7
S7 Pro- thicker by approx. 1 millimeter to enable 3500 Mah Battery SD Card ( to take full advantage of Android M)
Maybe metal back instead of fragile glass. Extra GIG of RAM
$100 more base price.
Note 6
Note 6 Pro ( see above).
IF Samsung can be reasonably
certain to increase Market Share by 10 to 30 % maybe this will happen.

If it has a sealed Battery- make it a large one for Pros and Power Users.
Iphone Users are crying for longer Battery Life also.
The " Thinness Race" with protruding Rear Cameras is creating some oddly handicapped Phones- the Power of a Laptop- for three hours at a time.....
Remember- a slim trim Body may get you more attention- but
No One is looking at your Phone.

The Android "Slimness Race"- where everybody loses.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:19 4

2. phonehome (Posts: 486; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)


The IMPORTANT question; removable battery?

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:23 16

3. neela_akaash (Posts: 1112; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


I don't think that this question is important these days..

posted on 17 Aug 2015, 12:23

73. NeonHD (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Aug 2015)


Well it is important for power users...

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:26 13

5. Scott93274 (Posts: 4064; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Yeah man, I know it's important to you... but being realistic about the matter, It looks as though the days of removable batteries on flagship devices is behind us. You just have to hope for larger capacity, faster charging, longer lasting, and more efficient software.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:06 2

37. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


More like 6Gb RAM.
No lags and stutters.
The S6 still lags and stutters, due to inefficient Ram.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 12:03 3

44. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


LOL. really. Inefficient RAM is the last reason a flagship phone will lag.

I own an S6 and yes, it stutters a little after the 5.1.1 update. But it's not due to insufficient RAM. It's the poor implementation of software by them and some bugs which need to be fixed.

Why you ask? The phone had 3 GB RAM when it was at 5.0.2 too and it was smooth as butter. 3 GB RAM is more than enough and 4 GB is an absolute overkill. I'm happy with 2 GB too on a phone. Nexus 5 performs admirably with 2 GB RAM.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 12:50

45. Busyboy (Posts: 534; Member since: 07 Jan 2015)


Did the 5.1.1 update effect battery life? My battery has gotten noticeability worse.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:21

51. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Mine too. Earlier, I almost never got below 6 hours screen-on time. Now, even 5 is a blessing.

Today I got a new 240 MB OTA. I hope it fixes the battery issue. The stutter is still present( although noticeably reduced).

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:20

50. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Obviously a giant processor , and a big Ram handling handful of job will be always more responsive than the processor busy in personalizing with person itself.
Having said that apps response optimization is area for improvement for Samsung. And knowing how to maintain your device is more important, as important as maintenance of your house, vehicle, health/ body etc.
(User of iPhone, HTC & Moto X)

I have so many apps running on my Note4. Inactive ones, active ones, system process, cached process, . which leaves me with 400mb Ram. 1500mb is taken by Android and Samsung. Then when leaving with 300mb Ram, when browsing, lags lags lags. ...

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:23

52. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


android will always gulp up almost all of the RAM. On my S6 too almost all the RAM is filled up but I never get stutter or lag due to it. It manages it really well. The area where I get stutter is while scrolling through multitasking menu. It's a constant and only stutter which means it's a bug.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:29 1

54. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


The problem isn’t with the operating system. Android itself is plenty snappy, but Android does things a bit differently than other mobile operating systems. Android runs tasks all the time, no much unlike most modern desktop computers. The more tasks you’re running, the slower your entire system gets. User interaction tasks, like key presses and mouse clicks, have to get in line just like every other task. Most of the time this approach works great, but sometimes things can get bogged down. When you run a lot of apps with a lot of tasks, lines can get long.

That's why even the E7420 isint powerful enough, along with a BS 3gb Ram, lmfao.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:38 1

58. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Android itself isn’t laggy. OEMs who make cheap and under-powered devices are laggy, but those devices would be laggy regardless of which OS they ran.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:32

56. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Lmfao, what a pathetic useless powerless 2-3gb RAm. Only. 6-8gb Ram for ultra smooth operation. Along with snappy CPU, not smooth or liquid falls, glide. Instant reaction. A72 at 3.0Ghz

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:32

57. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Think of your favorite reseller during a huge shopping day. Lines are long — ridiculously long. It doesn’t matter how smooth the checkout process is, or how friendly the people in line with you are, you’re going to be there a while — just like everyone else.

If someone has a HUGE basket, or they have problems with their payment, or the system can’t find one of the products they’re trying to purchase, that line backs up. People have to either wait, or change to other lines so they can keep moving. That’s the way your desktop and laptop computer work, and it’s pretty much the same for Android. The solution? Open more lanes and optimize the process, right?

posted on 11 Aug 2015, 04:31

68. ibend (Posts: 3503; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


even with heavy multitask, never surpass 3GB on zenfone2 4GB..
and samsung already use LPDDR4 which is significantly faster than LPDDR3 that used by non-SD810 phone

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:28 1

7. Ruturaj (Posts: 1275; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Samsung would end up using exynos if A72 cores and T860/T880 are ready, if not, SD 820 is similar to 7420 in multi core performance and slightly better in single core, also has better GPU. In that case SD 820 is better choice. But that will leave S7 with same SOC as other flagships.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:07 3

14. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


You never used both E7420 and SD820 but already judge who is faster and where.

Funny.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:46 2

24. Ruturaj (Posts: 1275; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


That's true, never used them but saw leaks. But we can speculate depending on things we already know, right? I missed some important parts in my comment though. I will try again.

Samsung might end up using exynos if A72 cores and T860/T880 are ready, if not, as per the leaks SD 820 performed similar to 7420 in multi core performance and slightly better in single core, also it might have better GPU, given Qualcomm top SOC always had better GPU performance in flagships every year and Exynos would be using same T760MP8 if T860/T880 are not ready. In that case SD 820 will be better choice. But that will leave S7 with same SOC as other flagships.

posted on 11 Aug 2015, 18:19

71. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


"Qcom always uses better GPUs"

Is that a joke? Or maybe you compare them in paid benchmarks?

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:36

35. Shocky (Posts: 2232; Member since: 16 May 2012)


You can only go by the information that's available and based on that Ruturaj is correct.

posted on 11 Aug 2015, 18:20

72. alex3run (Posts: 710; Member since: 18 May 2014)


Who knows...

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:23

53. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


0  | 
DEVON2000
9 MONTHS 7 DAYS AGO
So I have read each and everyones comment and I have noticed a trend and I’m surprised i’m the only one that has notice this, it seems to me that most of the commenters that says this article is bull has the Exynos edition of the phone, the Exynos has 8 cores and the performance is way better than the snapdragon 4 cores. So for the commenters that have the Exynos processor congratulations you have the perfect phone, this article is not for you, this article is for the people that has to deal with the crappy snapdragon or maybe the snapdragon chip isn’t to blame, maybe sammy didn’t do a good enough job optimizing the UI for the snapdragon like they did the Exynos, hopefully they come out with updates to fix this but who know, I’m keeping my fingers cross. But to me this Article hit the nail on the head, I agree with everything the author has said, I’ve experienced everything he has said and this is coming Samsung fanboy, with all the gripes I have with this phone I can’t see myself using any other phone but they really need to do a better job at optimizing the UI for the Snapdragon or just get rid of Snapdragon all together and focus all their energy on the Exynos chip, I would love to get my hands on a T-Mobile Exynos edition Note 4.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:28 4

8. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Exynos will curb stomp again. If Samsung keeps making better SoC than Qualcomm every OEM will have Exynos in the future.

posted on 11 Aug 2015, 04:34 1

69. ibend (Posts: 3503; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


not if snapdragon have cheaper price than exynos

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:55 1

10. sycosos (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Aug 2015)


i don't understand isn't the exynos 7420 is equal to the snapdragon 820 when it comes to specifications?

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:59 6

12. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


820 is better in single core and 7420 is better in multi-core but till S7 new exynos is supposed to have 40% higher single core than the one in S6 so if thats true exynos will again be better in both multi and single core.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:07 4

13. joeytaylor (Posts: 410; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


Just a question. ...can you actually say the single core in the 820 is better when it hasn't been put in a phone to test....like i said just asking a question

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:14 1

19. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Well I dont know if they tested it with a phone or without but I think in the end it single core will be better than exynos 7420

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:47

25. Ruturaj (Posts: 1275; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Where did you see 40% higher single core score?

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:57 2

26. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


From herehttp://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-already-testing-Exynos-chipset-with-custom-CPU-cores-for-the-Galaxy-S7_id68705

45% actually I was wrong

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:21 1

30. Ruturaj (Posts: 1275; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Looks promising, then exynos will certainly beat SD if both leaks are correct.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:08 2

38. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Snapdragon were always the underdog of Exynos.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:10 2

48. Ordinary (Posts: 2177; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Well not always but from last year and this year yea. I am not surprised since Samsung has much more money to put this into the play.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:59 1

27. may_czos (Posts: 712; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Exynos 7430 scores 1500/5000 (average score is 4600) while 3-core prototype variation of 820 scored 1800/4500

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:37

36. Shocky (Posts: 2232; Member since: 16 May 2012)


No, it's not.

SN 820 will have better performance overall.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 08:58

11. Mreveryphone (Posts: 402; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


It's obvious the exynos wasn't optimized for lolipop on the s6. With all the ram management issues and screen rendering problems when coming out of apps samsung might be going back. My s6 got updated with the latest optimizations and it still has a few issues but nothing crazy. I didn't have any problems with my note 4 doing that so it's got to be the chip. They rushed the exynos due to the 810 issues and didn't have time to get the optimizations 100... Let's hope the 2016 releases are butter!!

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:08 3

15. joeytaylor (Posts: 410; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


Mmmmmmm butter

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:10

17. Scott93274 (Posts: 4064; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Oh yeah!!!

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:16

20. Mreveryphone (Posts: 402; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


Buttery goodness!!!

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:13 1

18. Scott93274 (Posts: 4064; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


It's hard to determine the actual user experience these days based off of user feedback. In regards to the S6, I cannot tell if the people who're critical of its performance are just haters, while the people who say it performs flawlessly are fanboys. No disrespect to your experience, it's just I've heard two very different stories with the S6 phone.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:20 1

21. Mreveryphone (Posts: 402; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


It's probably a mixed bag... You just have to sift through the ridiculous comments and find a good middle ground of the good and bad reviews. But it's obvious something is a miss with the optimization of the s6 with most of the complaints saying the same thing. I've had just about every phone and I haven't experienced the issues I have on the s6 with any other phone.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:34 1

23. Supraman21 (Posts: 307; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)


I think it's quite obvious when people are being "haters" or trolls as they should be labled. There are no chipsets out there that are perfect and that includes the exynos line. My S6 heats up quite oftenrunder light loads but I don't know wheather to pin that on the hardware or software. All I know is that ever since the HTC One M7, I haven't had any problems with speed or fluidness. Okay maybe a little hank here or there but that's purely a software issue. I just want phones to no longer heat up cause that's one of the most annoying issues I've had so far with any modern smartphone I've used.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:20 3

29. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


It's definitely haters. The GS6 performs pretty much like stock but with a heavy skin.

Android does have to redraw sometimes but that's every Android device. It's normal and the people sensitive to certain things over exaggerate it like crazy.

Michael Fisher from pocket now says from their experience the Qualcomm versions lag less than the Exynos versions which is pretty untrue in my case bust he seems perfectly honest and I believe those are his true views.

i think some people are just sensitive to different things and Samsung and Qualcomm just approach them differently with different priorities.

It's just like the AMOLED haters. It just looks different to their eyes and they hate it. Then when you see a Note 4 display or a GS6 display and you get sensitized to how it displays certain colours bam. Way better. I was in the LCD camp before too until recently.

The same thing will happen with the Exynos chips. Once people get used to how it renders there is no going back to Qualcomm.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:33 1

34. Supraman21 (Posts: 307; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)


I currently own an S6 and previously I had a G3 running a stock lollipop rom. In a lot of cases my G3 was faster and less jankier than my S6 so I wouldn't go that far.

Where are the OLED haters you speak of? I've never seen one. OLED is better than any other display tech out there and that's a fact. They would have to be clearly trolling if they said it wasn't good. I mean I didn't like the S5 display because of pen tile at those ppi is still viewable but the S6 screen is near flawless.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:11 2

40. -SIR- (banned) (Posts: 120; Member since: 03 Aug 2015)


Snapdragon, another overhyped Pos. Like Apple.

Exynos Ftw.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 09:09

16. walkman800 (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)


This can't be real: "jungfrau" (young woman), "agile" - so much innuendo

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 10:28 1

32. tango_charlie (Posts: 243; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


"Jungfrau" is german an means Virgine or Maiden. "Young woman" would translate to junge Frau.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:30

43. walkman800 (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Aug 2014)


even worse

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:11 1

41. Trex95 (Posts: 879; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Hope Samsung stays with there own Soc in order to update there softwaer faster. If S7 comes with SD Soc and Exyonse Soc as S5 and note 4 then again you have ro wait for an update for 9 month.

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 11:14

42. nctx77 (Posts: 1697; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


Wow! A 3 month phone cycle. The Note/S6 edge plus hasn't even been announced yet and we are ready talking about the S7. Samsung please take Note! If you build a great phone, you won't have to come out with one every 3 months!

posted on 10 Aug 2015, 13:05 2

46. Ruturaj (Posts: 1275; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


It's not coming out now.

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