Foxconn slashes overtime to 36 hours a month after Apple's FLA report, workers not happy about it
1. ddxmms (Posts: 145; Member since: 09 Feb 2012)
no wounder they wont to work as many hours as they can,, because when the robots take there jobs they will be Unemployed.
2. wendygarett (unregistered)
now i understand why ipad so hot!! From the worker's frustration of course!!!
3. Virile (Posts: 38; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
So they are complaining that they rather work more for the same pay? Stupid much?
5. wendygarett (unregistered)
they might get free iphone though :)
7. tedkord (Posts: 4933; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Maybe they're saying they want the same pay for the 39 hours OT, plus however much they want to work over and above that. Some folks like to earn as much as they can.
My last job was 12-hour shifts, so I was working an average of 84 hours regular every two weeks. It wasn't uncommon for me to also have at least 24 hours OT each two week period, sometimes 36 or more.
There do need to be safety limits - you can't allow people to work 24 hours per day, 7 days a week. Exhausted workers cause accidents and injuries. But, 36 hours per month seems kinda low - it only averages to slightly less than 9 hours per week.
I'd be more worried about forced OT without pay. Voluntary OT, so long as there's some sleep period, doesn't sound like a necessarily bad thing.
6. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Daniel you missed an important part of the story .. the part where apple said they would comply within 15 months... this is in no way an immediate change.
Also they are changing it to the maximum amount of overtime allowed by law which they are currently in major violation of. Basicly they just told Chinese law to f-off and that they will change their labor practices in their own sweet time.
8. tedkord (Posts: 4933; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
15 months seems kind of long, but I would think it'd take at least a month or two to hire so many workers and get them trained. It probably can't be done overnight.
9. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I could see a month or 2 to get peeps in and trained. we are talking a few thousand workers. 15 months however is a middle finger.
10. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)
as usual we have pastor remix here with his nonsense trying to save the world from his computer chair
13. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and like normal we have the chicken headed william shatner wanna-be making no sense at all and advocating for not helping out those slaves one little bit!
how dare they!!!
11. roscuthiii (Posts: 1832; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
I think the workers are still thinking of the whole getting screwed over a half hour of OT for a minute thing. 29 minutes spent working over a shift earned them nothing unless they hit 30 minutes. Working 59 minutes OT only earned them the half hour they got previously.
It is a rational fear in their eyes about losing hours if the mindset is to expect the same conditions.
12. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
It might be small but it's a start. Now I'm waiting to see the moves that other companies will do in the same direction giving that Apple leads the way as stated many times on this forum.
14. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Samsung moved away from these practices for their main devices years ago. Apple isnt leading, its following, and its not doing it by choice, its being forced to since foxconn is becoming a PR nightmare.
When the moves happen, I'll be happy, but lets not pretend they were doing it of their own free will.
15. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
I'm sorry but that's what I remember reading here, if Apple does something to improve working conditions everybody will do the same.
Re Samsung I wow them! But out there there are more, though I'm honestly not aware of their practices.
16. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they manufacture all their chips and high end handsets in house. they dont outsource for those things. The payscale is only a smidge higher, but they offer actual benefits like insurance, max hours, vacation and sick time . A lot of their manufacturing is done in the Philippines
They also make many of their chips here in america, and more specifically in Texas
18. cellphonator (Posts: 298; Member since: 29 Oct 2011)
So if I got it right, the SGII is made entirely in Korea? How do you get all these info?
What do you know about HTC and their practices? Now you got me curious.
19. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I see you contradict yourself as usual. You said you were all over Apple because it would force other companies to change. Now you say they're following. Also Samsung's working conditions are no better in places like India and the Phillipines. Just cause you use a Samsung doesn't mean you have to go into your Fox spin zone.
Oh yes I'm back PA! Just in time to see who wins the bet against remix.
20. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i see your a moron still. who keeps letting you back in?? lol
Taco, youve been banned so many times its not funny. How many screen names are you at now? Besides, the bet was called off because you got banned over n over again. But I'm more than happy to continue to entertain you. Dont worry, Apple is still going to lose. :)
Apple is a leader taco, I never said they were not. However they are not the first one to move to more humane practices. Being the biggest though, they will help force the rest of the industry to move. No one will change until the big guy changes, which is Apple.
Samsung, being MUCH MUCH bigger company over all than apple, changed a while ago. All of your old arse articles are just that.. OLD. And yes, taco, if you compared samsungs factories to apple's foxconn factories, the comparison is night n day and its 100% in samsungs favor. Why dont you ask apple slaves how many sick/vacation days they get, or health benifits.
They do manufacture in Korea, but the bulk of their factories chip/phone are in the Phillipines, India, china, and America. When I said "in house", I meant at samsung factories, not at outsourced factories like Foxconn. They do pretty much everything from inside the samsung internal supply chain. Now, they do outsource other things like some of their TVs and computers. But their bread n butter is their chips and mobile division which is almost completely in house.
How do i find out about this stuff? There is a search bar at the top of my browser window. I research it. :)