Android L vs iOS 8 vs Windows Phone 8.1: which of the three will be the most consequential update?
3. Jinto (Posts: 414; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
iOS 8 cause that's who copied from other platforms the most
8. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9722; Member since: 14 May 2012)
That's a bait comment just letting you know before other people attack you for it.
9. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yes it's bait & the truth all at the same time. Get ready, cause the attacks like PapaSmurf said will be coming!
58. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Ios copycats, Xerox
70. Churchkey32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Wait, when did android first release? 2008? HTC Dream? anyone remember that?..and it eerily resembled the windows 5 mobile platform? I'd say android/google guesses more than innovates...I just wanted to set the record straight. Cudos to windows*
But if that example didn't do that for you, lets visit their app stores, apple app store released JULY 2008, android SEPTEMBER 2008 and BB app world, 2009...how are you basing your "copycat" claim? i just want to know? Give us some context, specifics..not just basic programming features like notifications/widgets..etc..because..you wouldn't have ground to stand on, because they ALL do those..
we can talk about palm, moto Qs and so on if you want to continue about how the smartphone evolved...
78. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Android is Linux family
83. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9722; Member since: 14 May 2012)
How can widgets be excluded? I mean seriously?
88. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 723; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Android "Guessed" its way to the top
iOS "innovated" its way to the bottom...
90. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1058; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)
But the thing is, with Android, you can easily make it look however you want.
93. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
And command script, and you can even make your own Android Kk
Power and openness of Linux Android
96. alaw.14 (Posts: 214; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
Android was founded in 2003. Android is way older.
167. Churchkey32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
So where was this "innovation" for the 5 years it sat on the shelves?... And it was a copycat of windows 5-6 mobile regardless..so let's not forget to add our context to our arguments.. Go windows! ...but great info, doesn't do much other than add more to the case of android copycating..Andriod still looks like a copcat("copycat" a copyright of andriod) andriod icons looked and moved like windows-esque platform...then what happened! Hmm I wonder...software and design
99. Nabil2511 (Posts: 151; Member since: 27 Jan 2014)
bro just becos apple starts it first does not make them the father of innovation for each year.. obviously somehow someone is going to surpass them.. and obviously that someone is android OS.
170. raghu67 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
issue is not about who came to the market first...
its about WHO in 2014..
and its clear for the past 2years apple is blantly copying features from android..
comeon, a smartphone is all about programming features.
if not y is it called SMART & how is it different from, say nokia 1100
176. bob_monkeywarts (Posts: 236; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)
Android first got POPULAR in 2008. Android's old.
111. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Since when does iOS 'copycat'? And since when does Android 'innovate'? Whenever Apple comes out with a new feature, Google sticks a disturbingly similar feature into Android with the next release. Look at the history. And whenever Apple comes out with a feature that another OS already has, at least it's quite different and it ends up being better than the one that it allegedly copied. All of the features that Android has that iOS doesn't are all obtainable through jailbreaking, and most of them are just customization anyway, along with some that pretty much just lower your level of security. Have fun getting malware on your 'innovation'.
117. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1057; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
How can you fit so much BS in one comment?
143. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
i bet you were born during 9/11. coz your IQ became ground zero...
172. TheGenius (Posts: 339; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)
Yeah right.. google copyied the concept of '3rd party keyboards' from google in 2014 I guess.!
91. Neo_Huang (Posts: 1058; Member since: 06 Dec 2013)
iOS 8 because thats what got to many new features by copying an OS from 2009, and will make all the fanboys go crazy.
4. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3427; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Needless to talk about Android L but WP 8.1 is going great.
And iOS, hope they improve colors first.
113. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
WP 8.1 isn't going anywhere. Honestly, not that I'm against it, but I have a feeling that not a lot of people are gonna buy it, just from the history of the last two WPs. A lot of the new features on WP 8.1 have been on iOS for a while though, like allowing apps to record video or audio from themselves, location-based app suggestions, data backup, Facebook integration (though they did it differently), manual app updates, burst mode, native podcast app, etc.
And while some people don't like Jony Ive's new iOS design, you must agree that it's still prettier than Android. I, for one, do like it, but it took a couple weeks to get used to. Besides, you can always change the icons with a simple jailbreak, takes 5 - 10 minutes. And iOS 8's new features are VERY nice too. They help catch up in customization (for the keyboard) and pull iOS ahead in many different areas. Oh, and Apple did widgets right, rather than those big boxes taking up homescreen real estate, it's in the Notification Center. Then there's Continuity, which allows your iDevice to tie in with your Mac way more, and Extensibility, which allows apps to work together for the best experience. There are many, many more wonderful features, but I don't want to talk about all of them, because this post would become too long. I will admit, some of these features (like Hey, Siri) are reminiscent of Android/WP, but not all, and the ones that are have been done a lot better than Android did (not sure about WP, I haven't used it much for a while).
Third, for Android, it's just sort of flattening the (still ugly) design but not that much, notifications (which are still ugly) on the lock screen and other improvements (which iOS has had for a year now), new multitasking cards (MobileSafari, anyone?), smartwatch unlocking, 64bit support (iPhone 5s, anyone?), and the battery performance thing, which is possible on iOS in the Usage settings. So all of the main features are also available on either WP, iOS or both. Nice. Nothing very new here.
116. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Symbian and Web o's had these features, before ios Wp.
118. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
All Apple products are not good looking
They all have curve designs
Curve TV looks ugly then edge to edge no bezel TV.
The Nokia L925 and Nokia iCon and other oblong phones looks nice. Even every tech websites and editorials agree, accept you.
Your an iBoy
Your an Apple fan
You are not giving where credit is dued
135. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
All new Apple devices are good looking, it's a common opinion of most people on the Internet. The OS is a different story. Some people like the new design, others don't.
When did I mention a curved design? Besides, what do you thing the GS5 is? Curved. Nexus 5? Curved. Maybe a different curve, but the iPhone's curve is better, it just looks better.
So you're saying that a TV without a bezel looks better? That's not always the case. Sometimes, it is, but sometimes, it's not. Besides, a TV is not a smartphone. Smartphones look better with a normal bezel than with none, or a small one.
Both of the Nokia phones you cited are ugly, even the iCon, that runs WP. If Apple pushed an iPhone that was squared off like that, it would probably be ugly too.
Besides, you can find opinions saying that those two phones are beautiful, and that they're ugly. Show me one saying that iPhone is ugly, ok?
I may be a an Apple Fanboy, but you're just anti-Apple. You're also a Google fanboy, so now you're just being hypocritical. Just stop trying.
144. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
I'm no fanboy of Google, but love Linux and Android .
145. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
I didn't say iPhones are ugly.
I said any phones with curves
No electronic devices looks nice with curves.
147. eldyagustius (Posts: 167; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)
Crap. How could you say even the phone curve made to follow the iphone?
So far, people loved the phone with thin bezel. I'm sure that people love ipad air design rather than the previous ipads. I has thinner bezel.
And you say that the 64bit smartphone tries to copycat the iphone? It's just the evolution of smartphone. Sooner or later, all of the OEMs try to make the 64bit smartphone.
Just simply admit that the ios 8 features is no more than anything but a copycat.
119. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1057; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Stop spreading your Apple elitist BS. It stinks of fanboy in here.
136. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Stop complaining because you're too cheap to buy an iPhone. It stinks of anti-Apple in here.
169. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1057; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I'm too cheap to buy an iPhone yet i own an One M8, try harder.
142. marcski07 (Posts: 588; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
BS. BS. BS. BS. the fanboyism on your comment is too damn high.. I already sensed it from the first sentence on your comment. Never ever give your opinion as a "fact" and praise your worshiped "iFruit".
for me, I like the 3 platforms, WP has a promising future, with nadella's visions, I'm excited on what it's gonna offer to us, iOS is pretty, but they look like now a GIRLY OS, (in my POV) but definitely, iOS 8 has good updates, IMO, they are the well polished OS, except they offer little. but good to know, the gap between android and iOS is getting closer, and that'll definitely favor us, the consumer.. Android L as the most matured OS, IMO this is their critical time, going up is hard, but staying 1st is the hardest... indeed android OS is great, almost all features you need is in there, and lots of good apps are free, and i'm not saying android are cheap, but it's more economical than iOS, that's why they are number one, from being lag droid, they are becoming more and more polished OS + the fact they have tons of free apps. as I said, the gap between iOS and android are drawing closer, totally excited on what they can offer next. iOS is luxury, and android is economical, it's like iOS is a fine dining restaurant, they offer you the feeling of prestige and exclusiveness, feeling of being VIP because of the service and the ambiance of the place, but you get little food from the price you spent, and android is like buffet, you get what you pay for... :)
I voted WP, because they are the one who are catching up... IMO WP is the one i'm more excited about. and from the news I've read, they are on the right track to compete. :) i'm excited on what it can offer and their potential.
168. michaelmicro (unregistered)
I've never got this; I don't get any feeling of 'prestige' or 'exclusiveness' from using an iPhone 5S; so so many people have iPhones, it's not possible for it to be viewed as even remotely prestigious or exclusive. Maybe in countries where people are poorer and thus fewer can afford an iPhone it might be seen as prestigious or exclusive? But that's not really Apple's problem if the country isn't as well developed as say, the USA or the UK.
175. bob_monkeywarts (Posts: 236; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)
You know, You are mostly right.
But you make iOS sound like it's twenty times better then Android, which it's not, it's still a good OS(so is iOS, I just hate the iPhone hardware with the small screen, big bezels, bad battery life and 1.3 GHz dual core processor), but I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy.
iOS and Android are good for different things, but personally, I would buy an Android because their cheaper, more customize-able, and hardware. Some people buy an iPhone, and that's fine, they like something easy to use and are probably really rich.
173. torch4x4 (Posts: 10; Member since: 31 Jul 2014)
hey dudes, using your phone search for the Breaking Bad Tour (or any other atracction) on the "Wikitravel" website, the addresses of the places to visit are plain text, but on WP you can tap any address on the web and it opens your navigation app to navigate there, how that SIMPLE THING is not possible on iOS or Android? go to a website and check by yourself, I discovered this on a trip to albuquerque more than 3 months ago, at least for any address anywhere on the web or text messages or wherever it is you can tap and go, same with the dates/days/time, tap and add to calendar...
37. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1127; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Mine is a bit bigger than yours! :);-):)
55. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1127; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
How do you know that? Hmmmmm??? Lol just kidding bytheway
132. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
21. akki20892 (Posts: 3773; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Android is getting smoother n' smoother....... And its already fully features packed....King of Mobile OS.
53. Luismalmeida (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Actually king of os would be ios. I have an LG g2 with Android 4.4. 3 and my girlfriend a iPhone 5. And despite my phone is more recent and have better hardware specs, my girlfriend's phone is actually faster. And she never had a problem with her ios. Never got jammed or whatever. I've been jammed a few times mostly because of Android errors..
62. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Apple only intended the multitasking bar to be a list of recent apps, not apps that are running in the background. It’s not a task manager, no matter how much it looks like one. In fact, almost nothing in the multitasking bar is truly “multitasking.” Apple’s tightly controlled platform instructs most apps to stop running code when the home button is pressed.
There are five states of app activity on iOS, with the least interesting being Not Running, and Inactive. Not Running simply means the app is closed or hasn’t been launched. Inactive is a running app that isn’t running code, for example if the device is asleep. Active is the state of an app when it is in the foreground being used.
That's why ios is smooth. It does not need power and Ram like Android.
Android is diffrent. Android is raw power Ram and Cpu hog, that even the S801 is struggling to push Touchwiz.
71. Churchkey32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
great info. explains why the androids feel like they are going to spontaneously combust in your hand/pocket then?
79. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
There is materials that can be used to justify the solution
Side air vents is one of them
89. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9722; Member since: 14 May 2012)
The S801 is NOT struggling to push TouchWiz. What a lie that is.
120. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Then why the lags on the S5, when Touchwiz all functions are active?
It's all over Android Central and Gsmarena, Phonedog, Bgr, Techno buffalo, know your mobile, CNET and even my brothers S5.....
115. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Actually, with iOS 7&8, Apple has included 'true' multitasking, just watch the WWDC13 keynote from last year.
64. blingblingthing (Posts: 494; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Processing an HD screen? No
Live wallpapers? No.
An actual home screen? no
Swipe enabled keyboard? no
Intelligent quick toggles? No
Q slide apps? No
Slide aside? No
Quick memo? No
Knock on? No.
Quick Remote? No.
There is a reason an iPhone SHOULD be faster. It's never really processing much at a single time.
I'm on a rooted G2 running 2 apps same time. 4k recording etc. They all take processing power.
My sister had a S3 and tried a iPhone 5s and now she's selling the 5s. Everything takes a few steps more. Why spend flagship phone money and not have the features? You don't spend Mercedes Benz money on a Hyundai and rant how simple and easy it is to use.
65. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
But Apple users don't give a rats about that, cause it has a Apple logo on it.
They also believe, that Iphones have features that no other phones have.
121. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
iOS has Retina Display. You can't see the pixels. That's good enough.
Live Wallpapers? Yes. I see you haven't used iOS 7.
An actual homescreen? Yes. I see you haven't used any iOS since 2007.
Swipe enabled keyboard? Yes. I see you haven't used iOS 8.
Intelligent quick toggles? Yes. You obviously haven't used iOS 7.
Q slide apps? No, but the code is there in iOS 8.
Quick memo? Who uses that? Anyway, jailbreak.
Knock on? Jailbreak. But why would anyone want that?
NFC? No! AirDrop *kills* NFC. Much faster and more convenient.
Quick remote? If I'm thinking of the same thing as you (using the phone as a universal TV remote), then yes, there's an app for that. There are actually many apps for that.
iOS uses it's resources much better. It doesn't process much at once, because it doesn't need to. Android just hogs all the power of your phone. When iOS needs more power, it takes it. And is still faster than Android.
So you're saying that recording 4K takes power when the camera is closed? Or are you saying that you're recording while doing something else at once? If it's the latter, why?
Rooting doesn't affect your speed. It gives you root access. That's like saying that jailbreak affects your iPhone's speed. It doesn't, until you install a faulty tweak that makes it slower. Then you uninstall that tweak. I was jailbroken, with many tweaks and apps running. My iPod touch was still faster than my friend's Nexus 5. Explain that to me, ok?
Everything does not take a few steps more on iPhone 5s. If it does, then you're not using your iPhone to it's full potential, or you really like Android's ugly, overcrowded notification center.
158. blingblingthing (Posts: 494; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Let's review. AGAIN
iOS has Retina Display. You can't see the pixels. That's good enough. (still is sub HD)
Live Wallpapers? Yes. I see you haven't used iOS 7.(you aren't calling that parallax effect live are you? It doesn't scroll and respond to touches)
An actual homescreen? Yes. I see you haven't used any iOS since 2007.(it's either an app draw or a home screen, because if it's both, define android's home screen then it's app drawers)
Swipe enabled keyboard? Yes. I see you haven't used iOS 8. (Pretty desperate, a preview build)
Intelligent quick toggles? Yes. You obviously haven't used iOS 7. ( intelligent meaning long press, and you go to the toggle in settings, e.g long press Wi-Fi and you go to Wi-Fi is settings?)
Q slide apps? No, but the code is there in iOS 8. ( desperate)
Quick memo? Who uses that? Anyway, jailbreak. (I use that for screen shots and to highlight things for ppl)
Knock on? Jailbreak. But why would anyone want that? (Because it's neat, we can't limit the need for the power button)
NFC? No! AirDrop *kills* NFC. Much faster and more convenient. (I've used knock on more than NFC. But here you are ranting about air drop killing NFC. I guess since it's a plus for iOS. This feature is now a most?)
Quick remote? If I'm thinking of the same thing as you (using the phone as a universal TV remote), then yes, there's an app for that. There are actually many apps for that. (Please explain to me, with out an IR blaster, how does your app work NEARLY as well as such remote)
iOS uses it's resources much better. It doesn't process much at once, because it doesn't need to. Android just hogs all the power of your phone. When iOS needs more power, it takes it. And is still faster than Android. ( you can be a sales man, because in the tech world, I think iOS simply lacks features)
So you're saying that recording 4K takes power when the camera is closed? Or are you saying that you're recording while doing something else at once? If it's the latter, why? (Wrong on both. I'm saying, the quad core chip set and 2gb allows developers to add 4k rrecording since the phone is capable. If the iPhone could do this, would love to know what bitrate it would use.
Rooting doesn't affect your speed. It gives you root access. That's like saying that jailbreak affects your iPhone's speed. It doesn't, until you install a faulty tweak that makes it slower. Then you uninstall that tweak. I was jailbroken, with many tweaks and apps running. My iPod touch was still faster than my friend's Nexus 5. Explain that to me, ok? (I don't know what your friend is doing, I'm very familiar what I'm doing. Come bring your iPhone beside my G2 and we'll talk to a third party and see what they think.) ( also, no, rooting doesn't make it faster, it's adding a custom recovery and flashing a custom rom and or kernel that will.
161. JustMeNow (Posts: 13; Member since: 28 Jul 2014)
Let's review again.
Still sub-hd? Yeah, but most people don't notice it that much.
No, I'm not talking about parallax, I'm talking about the live wallpapers Apple included. Find them in the settings. They're called "Dynamic Wallpapers".
iOS and Android homescreens work differently. iOS' is an Appdrawer with the first page used as a Home Screen.
It's not 'desperate' to use the newest version of iOS as proof that a feature is there.
Intelligent meaning Control Center. You swipe up on the screen from the bottom and you get toggles. And they look way better than the Android ones.
For QSlide, perhaps this one is a bit desperate, but the code is nevertheless there.
Quick memo, still don't see very much use, especially since there are tons of apps that do it, but there is a free tweak for that (that I didn't get, not a feature I want)
Knock, still seems more inconvenient than power button, but iOS has one through jailbreak that can do more than turn your phone on and off. It can do anything that you can tell Activator to do.
Not really a rant, I'm just emphasizing how much better AirDrop is than NFC. It is a major feature, in my opinion. It is very useful.
There are two ways. One is over Wi-Fi, which I use, and it's actually just as fast as a normal remote. You can also buy a fairly inexpensive IR extension for your headphone jack and use an app with that. I haven't bought an IR extension, but the Wi-Fi way works very well.
In the tech world, iOS really doesn't lack features, it can do most everything the average user wants to do in a day, and then some, and it receives new features every year. Besides, for the power user that wants more, there is the option of jailbreaking.
Wouldn't you need a different camera, which iPhone doesn't have right now? Besides, I'm quite sure iPhone 5s has 2GB of RAM. It does have a dual-core processor, but as I said, iOS uses resources better than Android. Also, most people don't have 4K monitors at the moment, so the average user probably wouldn't want to record in 2160p right now. Maybe in a couple years, but not now.
He is an average user, no root, not many tweaks or themes, really, he just texts and plays games (like Clash of Clans, which my iPod touch loaded faster on the same network). I am also aware of what rooting is, and I stated that rooting doesn't affect speed.
165. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9722; Member since: 14 May 2012)
"Besides, I'm quite sure iPhone 5s has 2GB of RAM."
No, it has 1GB of RAM. You're confusing what it SHOULD have to what it DOES.