Android 5.0 Lollipop crashes less than iOS 8, report says
42. Cicero (Posts: 871; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
2% from what? What is the base for it. It is reporting to global user base? Better say the numbers (1000 pcs. for each tested and 2% crashed on Lollipop and 2.2% on iOS8).
45. cdm283813 (Posts: 367; Member since: 10 Jan 2015)
2% I can understand for Android. A OS that caters to many hardware configurations vs a OS that will only go into a handful of devices. Based on Apples tight control iOS should be the most stable out the two but it's not.
51. bucky (Posts: 2608; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
The number of lollipop devices is pretty tight still and probably mostly nexus. I think that number may increase as more devices have it-not justifying either crashing though.
2. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 1155; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)
I hate Apple, I hate American icraps
7. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)
What's the point of your comment? You want people to slap you back with a "I hate Chinese phones, I hate cheap Chinese crap"? Is that fun to you?
IMMATURE AT IT'S BEST.
46. Settings (Posts: 1650; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
What a murky comment. They copy Apple and they hate it? That dude is just a troll.
33. cmpunk (banned) (Posts: 88; Member since: 27 Jan 2015)
your cheap chinese toys also use American's Android OS. u know that, chink moron?
43. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Chink? You do know that is a highly racist comment.
52. MrHate (Posts: 226; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)
You can't help someone who is talking like this.
54. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Indeed, stupidity can't be helped.
57. JMartin22 (Posts: 1982; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
To be fair, he is a moron, but he shouldn't have injected a personal attack at the user.
58. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
True, he is and no problem with that at all.
62. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
You've been programmed by the language police.
63. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
There is a difference in what students may learn, to achieve knowledge and form ideas and opinions. And using words that are known to be racist on purpose. Your sentence shows absolutely no insight whatsoever if you can't tell the difference.
3. addicted2088 (Posts: 53; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
I think the biggest reason why this is the case is that Android has always been more flexible/feaure packed from the beginning, so Lollipop wasn't that major an upgrade as far as flexibility is concerned. But with iOS 8, Apple added a lot of stuff that wasn't there before, like third-party keyboards, advanced sharing options, so it became an issue doing it all well all of a sudden.
I love Android, but I have to say Apple is simply suffering from this because they suddenly went from making an OS that did a few things (but did them well) to an OS that is now trying to be flexible like the competition. Apple will probably get things right in the months to come as it gets used to offering advanced options that it hasn't offered before.
One thing is for certain though: both OS are great right now, though I'll be sticking to Android simply because it does the advanced/flexibility stuff better (like sharing through apps, or sending multiple files through email, which still is kinda limited on iOS).
22. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I partly agree on your arguments. iOS did become more open (like keyboards) and are prone to be less stable (in the beginning) because of this.
But don't forget Android 5 introduced an entirely new run-time. Also the visual overhaul goes way further than new colors/icons (including different api's). Not to mention 64 bits support. All these together I don't see Lollipop as a minor upgrade. But quite a few that can have a big impact on apps.
They are very close in stability. If you look on the source of these reports: crittercism.com, you can see stability fluctuates quite substantially each period.
24. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Lollipop vs Kitkat crash rate:
iOS 8 vs iOS 7 crash rate:
As you can see, Lollipop seems to fluctuate a lot and the latest numbers it's higher than iOS 8
26. Finalflash (Posts: 3128; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
The reason for the Lollipop instability is because the changes they made were very serious. The public only sees their aesthetic changes like material design language and what not, but as a developer, things like renderthread and scene/transitions framework changed everything internally. A lot of those things are borrowed from iOS and windows phone and likewise, Lollipop will be somewhat difficult for a bit.
But IMHO, Lollipop will stabilize faster than iOS because Apple is still making some serious changes to iOS including the need for better backgrounding. That in itself will probably break iOS quite a bit because literally all Apps will have to take that into account. How developers implement it will cause massive headaches as usual in a large number of cases. It is the direction the industry is headed though and so they have little choice but to face those demons asap.
35. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I know Lollipop brought more changes then aesthetics alone (and even those have quite more impact than looks alone). In the end both OS-es are quite stable, I wouldn't say one is significantly more stable than the other. I do think it's somewhat of an accomplishment that Android runs as stable as iOS on a more divers set of hardware.
Saw a chart recently which iOS apps have made the transition to 64 bits already and I was amazed that still so many apps are 32 bit only. Wonder if the transition will bring less or more stability to the Apple platform, since they are demanding devs to make a 64 bit version starting this month.
49. sgodsell (Posts: 3737; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Art has been their since Jelly Bean. However you had to activate it. Now Art is the default. That is the difference. You make it sound like its a totally new thing.
50. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
You mean KitKat, that was the first Android version in which you could activate it in dev options. Which was a preliminary version.
And no it's not totally new, but if you look at the KitKat crash scores, how many of those devices will have ART enabled? Most Android users don't play around in dev. options.
23. kryme (Posts: 367; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)
lol if its the third party keyboard and sharing thats causing ios to crash more than android then that says alot about how crappy ios really is.... wat would happen if ios was to take on custom roms and recovery and those sweet stuff that make android what it is today.... apple need to invest 10 billion from that 18billion profit to fix ios...... phonearena what is the crash rate between ios on ip+ and tw on N4.....
60. jroc74 (Posts: 6013; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Exactly. The next major iOS update is mainly, strictly about stability. That says alot.
I said this over the past few years....if it aint broke.... I like that Apple is trying to keep up with the other OS's but sometimes more isnt better.
5. AlikMalix (Posts: 6018; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Ofcourse it crashes less, Lollipop is only on 1% (+/-) Android Devices while iOS 8 is on 80%... There are just not much variations of installed/running apps, users, and settings among Lollipop vs iOS8...
Also which iOS 8 are we looking at? There was this one that was pretty bad.. the last couple updates are extremely good.
Cudos to Android to finally catch up to iOS stability... 2% is pretty damn good considering how many smartphones with Lollipop or iOS8 - so I think as consumers we are getting quality stuff here...
59. HansGoneInsane (unregistered)
It still depends on how homogenous the user groups are. Lollipop mostly runs on latest hardware right now. iOS 8 runs on latest to 3.5 years old hardware.
I can imagine that a lot of iOS8 crashes happen on older hardware.