Almost half of US mobile subscribers have smartphones, iOS closes the gap on Android
1. windowsRocks (Posts: 147; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)
After seeing the charts i must salute Android.
19. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Well hold those salutes for the iOS, because the new batches of Androids are being built just like an iPhone, with no removable battery, no expansion slots. Main reason why Android is king of the hill right now. But not for long. I know for me I love my Android because I hated iPhone with no expansion slot or removable battery. But I hate to say this if this is the new trend for Android. Well it's a no brainer, I will go onto the better ecosystem Apple. As a Mac owner as many other Android user that own Macs, will be doing the same if this is going to be the only option in smartphone with no expansion slots or removable battery.
23. rallyguy (Posts: 364; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
I haven't noticed a trend of no micro sd card though. Battery might be, but as long as it lasts as the Razr Maxx does I'm ok with that.
27. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Well then you have been reading up on most of the upcoming phone then. It's a TREND, that I am HATING! If you love it great, you walk around with your plus, But for me I want to just have in my pocket an extra battery. I travel very very lite. No hand bag for me, no backpack for me no nothing. Super Lite..
25. jroc74 (Posts: 3462; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Thats the thing. How many Android users are Mac users? I think Windows PC's are dominating in marketshare.
Ecosystem does play a part. For those who dont have a mac and have an Android phone...I cant see too many switching. Those heavy in the Apple or Android ecosystems right now will more than likely stay there.
And I dont think removable batteries and sd cards are the main why Android is doing so well...lol Main reason is choice, and a decent product.
31. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Choice other than a iPhone and better price than iPhone, so yes I agree. But now those choice are going by the waste side. Because the Android are becoming like iCrap iPhone in price and choice in specs.
29. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I agree, I only talking about Mac user with Android, not Window, If I had window, Yeah I would stay with Android. So you are right, But a wave will change up to iCrap iPhone is they were force to chose same device with same specs. Will at that point be to chose an ecosystem that make sense for a Mac user.
41. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Nothing personal, but I don't think having a removable battery is high on the list of most consumers out there, iPhone or Android. Expansion slots may be higher, but they're still very prevalent anyways.
42. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I agree, seem to me most consumers really enjoy running around like headless chicken looking for an outlet. I'm sure that is 1 on their list of requirement when looking for a new phone.
44. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
No need to get sarcastic, sir. Also, how does having a removable battery prevent people from, as you bluntly put it, "running around like headless chicken looking for an outlet?" I'm pretty sure most people would rather plug their phone in every once in a while than carry an extra battery around with them wherever they go.
47. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Extra when on the go, Plug in oulet when I going to bed. I am sorry about my sarcastic remark... I do plug my phone nightly to an outlet. Only when I am out and about I have the extra battery as not to stop my day to look for an outlet. I have to say I do hear and see many iPhone user hating the fact they have to go through this daily. Look around if you live in a big city. Any starbucks will do. Take notice of all the phone plug into a wall, mostly iPhone. Plus ontop of that an extra $5.50 for the coffee daily. LOL! it all adds up...
49. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I'm not saying that having an extra battery doesn't have its advantages, but Android users I know, including myself, don't really care about this (and I'm using an Evo 4g, so if anyone should care, it would be me.)
Whether it's better to have an extra battery or not isn't the issue, it's whether having a removable battery is a real-world advantage that tens of millions of American Android users currently consider a deal-breaker. Obviously my observations could be skewed by the types of people I associate with, economic conditions, etc., but I just don't think having a removable battery is that big of an issue for the vast majority of people at this point.
48. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
@Commentor: Seems to me after looking at your profile, you and I have lots in common as far as gadgets are concern. Everything on your list, I to like, want or had. So you have great taste.
50. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Thanks, and I do agree with you that Android manufacturers should be looking to differentiate their features from the iPhone, not compete directly. I think the ASUS PadFone is the best thing to happen to Android in quite some time, simply because it's so different from the iPhone and markets to a completely different segment. That's what companies should be doing, in my opinion.
53. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I was really hoping the padfone would be a big seller. Has it even come out yet? The concept is so easy, yet genius. Its basically just like an HDMI out to a portable screen that holds the device for you. With phones getting so powerful, it really does make sense.
57. Commentator (Posts: 1874; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
ASUS is planning to release the PadFone sometime in April, and is expected to release it first in Taiwan, then elsewhere. I hope, and this is just speculation, that it hits the States sometime in May/June, like they did with the Transformer last year. I also hope it comes to Sprint. Given Sprint's track-record with unconventional devices, such as the Kyocera Echo, Evo 3D, and Samsung Replenish, they might spring for the PadFone. However, none of those devices really lived up to expectations, so Sprint may unfortunately have reservations about picking up the PadFone (once bitten, twice shy, after all.) T-Mobile would also be a good option, though, as it already supports their bands (I believe), and T-Mo hasn't really announced anything big this year, other than the One S, even though it literally has the exact same specifications that the PadFone has, sans tablet dock. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Verizon won't pick it up, as they seem to be the most mainstream carrier there is. I wouldn't bet on AT&T either.
63. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, the assumptions you made are probably pretty true.
what i want is an SGS3 "padphone" that hooks into a 11 inch SA+ 1080p screen. bonerifick. :)
52. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
AMERICAN citazen's are loyal to APPLE but,
APPLE is perfidious to AMERICANS!!!!!
2. sheepygalaxy (Posts: 68; Member since: 10 Mar 2012)
So in other the words the USA is breeding more 'sheep than the rest of the world
62. andro. (Posts: 1890; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
It does seem that way as we have seen Apple sales dwindle an awful lot in our stores over last few years to where we have android hansets now outselling iphone handsets at least 5:1. It seems alot of people are becoming pro-choice instead of being spoon fed what they are told they want by apple.
Unfortunately in America maybe influenced by patriotic values or perhaps due to the more mass pr advertising and mass targetting by apple alot more Americans fall for apples this is cool,this is what you need strategy.
3. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
that many people are still buying blackberry? bet 11 of the 12% are business.
So if half the american population has a smartphone, and half of those phones are android, that means 25% of everyone in the US is rockin an android set of some sort.
iOS's growth is good, but androids is still stronger. Many android people are holding off on upgrades right now with the OneS/OneX/SGS3 right around the corner. Because of that, I'd expect a paradigm shift back to heavier android adoption after their launches. I'd also expect WP7 to be out of the "other" category and be classified on its own by christmas with the high profile nokia launches.
11. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
The same can be said when the iPhone 5 comes out as well. Their are newer android devices out the the newest iOS device the 4S.
15. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup. its a continual paradigm shift. When the spring rolls out the new hit android devices, there is a heavy shift to android market share, when the new iphone launches, it shifts towards apple. The only 2 consistants are that, and that android has been still beating iOS in total sales, even when the new iphones come out. iphones sell a ton, but the value of choice still rules the roost.
i know some think im nutty, but i still think WP7 is going to cut into future iOS sales more than android sales. Its going after gamer teens and those that want an easy curated experience because they are not tech savy, which are 2 of apple's biggest segments.
20. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I would say wp7 sales are tough to predict but its not like market share really matters anyway. I don't buy a phone based on what others are getting I get whats best suited for my needs. I think the whole debate is silly. But if you did want to have the debate then yes android is ahead of iOS. Numbers are easily skewed though because if you wan't to look an individual phone sales it goes to the iPhone. Or you could go by region which some android some iOS others bada is a relevant player as well. Its not like numbers hold much significance anyway.
35. Lucas777 (Posts: 2115; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
no... wp7 will gain traction, but it is going straight for android not ios... as android fans love to say, ios is part of an ecosystem that really doesnt change... if u want to call it sheep then sure-- android fans are not that loyal.. many have android simply because they dont like ios and there are no other options-- and thats where wp7 comes in... it isnt very different from either one, but offers some goods and bads from both sides...
i feel the lumia 900 will be successful (not breakout successful) and that it will be a slow march, not a rapid takeover
54. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Android users might be more willing to try WP7 than an apple user, sure. Android users like choice.
My point was that its not going to "take away" a large chunk of current apple users, its going to take away a large chunk of POTENTIAL apple users. Only half of those with cell phones, have a smart phone, so there is a huuuuge chunk of people to go after. WP7 has a very similar curated and easy experience to Apple, with some of the benefits of android like widgets and minor modding. Thus its going to appeal more to the mindset of those that might like apple, than those that might like android for an initial purchase. It WILL take from both sides, I just think its going to hit potential apple customer sales a bit harder.
The ONLY stats that matter are total OS sales. Individual phone sales mean squat except in a fanboy mud fight. Total OS sales drive word of mouth marketing, app development, and all sorts of junk. What do total phone sales drive, except for the manufacturer to want to make a sequel device?
If company A sells 20 million of 1 phone, and company B sells 3 million of each phone, but has 10 different phones to sell (all with the same OS), who is doing better? Individual sales mean nothing.
56. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Well Android has more market share but ios has more app developer support, more effective marketing, and a higher degree of brand recoqnition and subsequently more word of mouthgenerated by new product released. When the 4S came and and new ipad both were talked about on the news/talk shows. Android doesn't usually have that. So what significance does market share really have. If you want tol talk about app devolpment talk about that I don't see why market share is relevant.
64. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
those reports on app developers are crap. If there was really an issue, the android market wouldnt have spiked past 500k apps this year and growing. Its almost completely caught up to iphone's app market... which means its still growing faster than the iphone app market.
65. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I have used both ecosystems and what I found was the apps r good on both but the app store is just better. Apps come quicker to ios like cut the rope, temple run, nba jam. Number of apps doesn't mean much because I feel the quality is better.
66. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it all depends on what apps u want. iOS leads in gaming but u can't beat android for navigation and search integration functions. no one beats Google at information sorting and usage and that is directly reflected in the quality of the Google suite of apps for android. yea other OSs Get a version of the apps but they are always stripped a bit... or a lot.
for me that's more important
70. biophone (Posts: 1877; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Android has built in navigation so its not like an app is really needed anyway. I was thinking about it and I have actually found a reason why individual phones sales are important. Second hand parties are going to make more accessories for phones that sell well. Since the iPhone sells so well its not surprising to see all the accessoiers it has such as cases, speakers, ihomes, screen proctors, and so much more. Even this is minimal though so again I raise the point does sales really matter besides for the company?
24. rallyguy (Posts: 364; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
Yes, but I see a lot of upset people this year who just upgraded to the 4S and are now locked into a two year contract. I don't think they will want to pay $600 for a new phone.
36. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1334; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
They wont care a lot paid the early upgrade charge or just flat out paid full price. If its an Apple product, they wont care
60. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
i would love to get my hands on a Nokia Lumia 800/900 running WP7...but unfortunately i don't think Verizon will take the plunge & pick that device up. i've been there done that w/Android, webOS, iOS & Blackberry. i've never really dove into WP7.
4. redmd (Posts: 761; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I agree with remix on the Android paradigm. The closing in of iOS on the gap was expected with the release of iPhone 4S. We can expect the same when the 2012 Android flagship hit shelves. I'm rather hopeful on the Nokia WP outcome this year.
5. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
Android is so strong that it didnt even budged by iOS' growth..
7. jroc74 (Posts: 3462; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea....Blackberry and Others are suffering from iOS growth. Apple and Google have to be pretty happy these days.
6. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 817; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Its funny how android has like 100 different phones and iOS only has 5 and they are doing more or less the same.
8. jroc74 (Posts: 3462; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Whats even funnier is that before Android even came out Win Mo had 100 different phones...look where they are now.
9. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Why is that amusing? Android is an OS not a phone builder, so a snide comment from your obvious lack of knowledge makes you looks stupid instead of funny.
10. Das70 (Posts: 124; Member since: 05 Jan 2011)
With the increasing popularity of the non-contract carriers which all now have mid range smartphones. I am not too surprised by this. I am assuming a big chunk of the increase is due to the more affordable ways to get a smartphone now. Probably a good thing though. I used to be anti-smartphone (mostly because of the ridiculous plans the big two offer) but with the increasing non-contract smartphones its a good deal for people who dont want to pay more than $50 a month for phone service.
13. good2great (Posts: 953; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
agree 100% and i believe this is why android has such a stronghold in "smartphone operating system share"... there are many different android phones on many different carriers. While people hate contracts they can still get a smartphone(android) from these non-contracted carriers.
17. MobileCaseReview (Posts: 239; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
With the growth of the pre-paid market and with phones from Huawei and ZTE setting a blazing trail, Android's share is only going to increase strongly.
12. shamataa (Posts: 197; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Like i said before Android is number #1 choice in terms of OS platform. :)
73. remixfa (Posts: 13885; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
how is the iphone less availible? Its even on small rural carriers now. If your talking about Tmobile, unlocked iphones are so common on tmobile that they have their own tech support department.
people love choice, and when push comes to shove, they chose the benefits of android over ios.
16. darktranquillity (Posts: 282; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
With Samsung galaxy s3, htc one series, sony xperia, zte and huawei trying to ship more androids. ......android soon will be miles ahead of ios.
18. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
As a Fandroid here that owns everything Apple, but not the iCrap iPhone. I believe I BIG reason Apple is gaining traction over Android. The new Android trend is building them just like iPhone, with no removable battery, no expansion slot. The main reason why people hate the iPhone and buy Androids. So I believe if only having those option in the up coming market selection. Well I hate to state this, but it's a no brainier to just get the iPhone because of the great ecosystem and I already as many Android user own a Mac Computer. So mark my words, this will be the down fall of Android in moving behind iPhones.
21. Whateverman (Posts: 3066; Member since: 17 May 2009)
These aren't sole reasons why people buy Android devices, so the exclusion of them will have minimal effect, IMHO. I definintly thought the lack of a removable battery would be a big issue and I even said I would never own one...few months later, here I am with the Droid Razr. I think it will be the same for expandable memory as well. I hate the idea of no memory card. That's part of the reason why I picked the Razr over the Galaxy Nexus, but if the phone is that good I'll just have to bite the bullet. I honestly don't think Apple has a "Better ecosystem", it's just different. Some parts of it work better, some...not so much. Apple will be the number 1 OS eventually, but not because its better. For years to come ungratful little brats will be b*tchin' on there little facebook and twitter accounts how their parents bought them some stupid car instead of the white iphone because its still just going to be the "Cool" phone to have. I don't care if Android slips to number 2, as long as I know I have the best OS on the market, that's all that matters to me. And for me, Android is simply the best.
22. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Well as an Android owner and iCrap iPhone hater, I will bite the bullet as well, However Apple is the better ecosystem hands down. I am and will never be an easy customer. I want what I want for reason. But if force, it's a no brainier to just move onto the best ecosystem. I hate cloud storage, once again I will if only if I had, I pray that I DON"T have to. But is is best with the cloud. But lord please let the HTC One X have what I want and need. That is all I'm say.
32. hepresearch (unregistered)
I can see it, too. I think there are still quite a-plenty reasons to buy an Android over an iPhone, but it is true... imho... that the newer Androids are trending toward acting more like and looking more like, and taking design cues from, Apple's new iPhone offerings. It is natural for others to follow the trend cues of the clear leader, otherwise they could not truly compete with the leader (in this case now, Apple). I don't think they will really get to the point of being severely identical, but it is enough of a fact that Apple has taken notice and fought back with all that awful patent litigation that we generally all detest. But then again, Apple does expect the truly- and properly-competing Android tablet to very much resemble the LeapFrog LeapPad... =8-P
If you think about it, though, Android follows Apple in what Apple does so well to snag more customers... I mean, who wouldn't want more customers? The bottom line is that devices sell better if the operator/owner doesn't have to think very much when they work their device. Apple's devices take much of that need for thought away from the smooth operation of their products... and while Android owners often enjoy taking the time to think about operations and customization and coding and all sorts of awesome stuff they like to do that iOS users would rather not think about, Google still has to cater to more users in order to maintain their bottom line.
As more people stop feeling the need to think much if they don't absolutely have to or want to, Apple will pick up market share, and Google will redesign Android to become more like iOS in order to compete better in a market that has more thought-avoiders, hipsters, and convenience-users than ever before... and less and less thinkers day after day...
34. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I simply don't want to be like those iPhone user, that have to bring their iPhone to a apple genius bar when they have battery issue, or run around like crazy people looking for a plug to juice up, I LOL at those people, Now I will sadly be one of those peeps. LOL! . It's like this, If a shoe store starts telling their customer that the shoelace will now be preeminently attach, However please bring it is for a fee so we can change it for you or any other shoelace related problems. Since when did we need help with our shoelace, So why do we need help changing our own battery?, why do I have to be force to use cloud service? Where is the option? Soon it's just gonna be like you say, everything is going to be like an iCrap iPhone. I love Apple ecosystem, but hate the iPhone.
38. Whateverman (Posts: 3066; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Lol! Few good points there. The fact that my battery could go bad in the 13th month of owning this phone makes me nervous. There is no Motorola store for me to go to and VZW doesn't fix phones in store. And I love my Mac and hate the iPhone as well. The Eco system looks great, but I don't like the "my way or the highway" feeling I get from every other iProduct within the ecosystem. Syncing iProducts take too long, but when I connect my phone to my Mac...it's just drag and drop. And Apple nickel and dimes you more than carriers. The word "free" is usually accompanied by the word "lite" when your looking for apps. People can say that the apps for the iPhone is better, but Bump, Angry Birds, Osmos, World of Goo, Shadow gun and many other games and apps look identical to me on both to me, with a few exceptions. But it's not enough for me to give up what feels like a more complete ecosystem with Google.
39. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I'm am not and will never be an app hoarder. I'll pay for thing that are worth it. My only smartphone has been so far Android, never ever own a iCrap iPhone. But I'll be dammed if I have to hand over my phone Android or iPhone for something we've been doing ourself since the begining of time. OPTION! PLEASE! Not everyone care about the longest battery life in the planet, I get longer battery life hands down with my extra tiny battery in my pocket any day again someone with an iPhone and a BIG plug in their pocket. I don't even have to stop my life to do so. I have to however disagree, I hate saying this but it's true. Apple ecosystem hands down is far better than Android. However Android is try to get it right slowly but surly.
40. phoenixpr (Posts: 157; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Plus Identity Theft has been a big problem, over 70% Identity Theft happens in companies. Why do I want to had over my phone to someone I don't know. So many disgruntle people. The expansion slot will allow me to remove my PRIVATE stuff off the phone, if I did have to hand it over and mail it in for tech support. The Big Picture!!!
26. hepresearch (unregistered)
Well, Nielsen is usually pretty decent with their stats... if this is true, then all the folks who laughed at me when I said Android could get eclipsed by iOS in the next three years here in the states have now lost their #1 reason for calling me out on my analysis... they always laughed at me and told me that Android activations are sooo much more numerous than iPhone activations. Looks like that has been changing quickly in the last three months... they are now closing the gap with Android for new activations. Now whether this is just because of the iPhone 4S/"the New iPad" releases has yet to be seen, but if this trajectory pattern holds, I just may yet prove to have been right-on in my analysis last summer... even as much as I hope I'm not right after all. Personally, I'd much rather be wrong on this one.
30. jroc74 (Posts: 3462; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I dont really care who has more marketshare or more profit. IMO there is enough pie for at least 3 mobile platforms to survive.
I wanna see Android, iOS and WP7. Maybe cuz those are the only ones I'm interested in....lol. I really wanna see Blackberry merge with Android or iOS.
33. hepresearch (unregistered)
Last I ran the current stat numbers through my Markov-chain model, I got iOS at 76% marketshare, Android at 16% marketshare, Windows Phone at 7% marketshare, and feature phones still clinging to 1% by the year 2018. Doesn't take into account major market disruptions, though, since it cannot predict when a newer product release could occur or even how successful it might be until it is fairly imminent.
Personally, I'd rather see BlackBerry 10 take off well and keep them in the game... the more choices, the better! Three ecosystems alone are just not enough to satisfy my need to feel that I have many choices.