Acer: No Windows Phone without larger market share
Despite having a robust line of Windows based tablets (and of course PCs), Acer has kept its distance from Windows Phone for a couple years now. From the looks of things, that is not going to change anytime soon.
Saying that it “can’t take the risk” on Windows Phone, Acer cites a lack of consumer demand and a poor selection of applications. “The Windows Phone Store is improving. But if there are 350,000 apps and it doesn’t include the top 100, then it’s no good for consumers. For example, if you don’t have the local banking aps, then it is a naught to certain people.”
Another area that Acer is not keen on Windows Phone is with regards to market share. Despite the growth, the current share in Europe for example, about 7%, is not enough for Acer to commit. “We are having conversations with Microsoft, and if they index Windows Phone to 10 to 15%, we are interested.”
While Acer’s pensiveness is understandable to a point, the company runs the risk of losing out on the groundswell that is Windows Phone’s current growth rate. Assuming that Microsoft meets its goals of seeing its mobile OS exceed 15% market share by 2017, the growth rate will have slowed considerably by then and with all the new players entering the market with their own Windows Phone devices, Acer may have trouble finding a seat at the table.
sources: The Inquirer via Neowin
1. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Oh well.. Their loss.. Besides, I'd rather have Lenovo, and all the other companies who have committed to producing WP devices in the near future..
A Sony WP device... Wow, that would be awesome..
41. Skoms (Posts: 118; Member since: 03 Feb 2014)
Now that nokia microsoft have started with Android.
Then I can not see any reason for WP !
I had a WP earlier but is inferor.
It is not but a Beta OS, Ecosystem
This is very strange Acer have to pay licence to microsoft
and nokia dont have to pay licens. This is not fair!!
53. Liveitup (Posts: 1793; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
The only thing that is in Beta is your common sense.
WP is awesome.
47. sgodsell (Posts: 2392; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Its nice that Google owns a percentage of lenovo now. And all Motorola phones will be made by them.
60. MySchizoBuddy (Posts: 107; Member since: 23 Aug 2011)
when did google buy a percentage of lenovo and how much?
62. sgodsell (Posts: 2392; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Just recently when they sold off Motorola to lenovo. Part of that deal was to have shares in lenovo. Just Google it.
63. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
What does that have to do with anything?
15. elitewolverine (Posts: 3481; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I wouldn't mine a Lenovo myself, currently using their 11.6in Lynx Tablet and loving it.
32. ihavenoname (Posts: 1605; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
Yeah, Lenovo can make solid hardware, though phones are bit "meh". I'm really waiting for the Kutcher/Kelso designed line-up
30. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
They are better off from wp. Because annoying wp fans like you will never buy anything other than nokia.
36. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
All annoying Android fans like you want Nokia to make a high end phone. So see you have something in common.
43. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3682; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Who wants a crappy nokia with forked android. No play store, no chrome, no gmail, no google+ then its not of my taste.
54. tigermcm (Posts: 832; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
i dont think he said android fans want a forked high end andriod phone but honestly for the past year every nokia article has had a few android fans pleading for nokia to make android well now they made somewhat of an android phone and still fans are crying
51. sgodsell (Posts: 2392; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Its one thing to make an Android phone. Its another thing to use the Android name to push the sales of WP. What Google Apps and services are on these phones. Oh wait. None. So Microsoft and Nokia are riding the coattails of Googles Android to generate numbers and revenue. Revenue that WP cannot generate. Look at the numbers. It takes about 6 months of WP sales to generate what Android sells in about a week.
65. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
So, what are you going to do?? Cry about it??... I swear you Android fans are the biggest bunch of cry babies I've ever seen.
You see a WP related article just stay off it unless you have something to contribute beside BS!
55. Liveitup (Posts: 1793; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
We are tech fans, we are the minority of smartphone users, the majority purchase from other OEM's and judging by the millions of WP that was sold last year that was not from Nokia, there is a market out there, Acer is shooting themselves in the foot.
64. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Lol!!! Troll.. Stay off of WP related articles and you will see less of my annoying a$$
And, if Nokia provides the best smartphone experience, of any platform, then why would I buy anything else?... Ha! How smart are you?... Obviously not very... Sad.
2. Johnnokia (Posts: 760; Member since: 27 May 2012)
If WP market share exceed 15%, who would care and buy Acer phone?!
3. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
First WP will break 15% by 17.. And, a lot of people would buy a Acer device if the price is right... But, these devices probably wouldn't be for markets like the US,, except if they were pre paid devices..
4. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Acer phones are quite cheap, most of them are low end and mid end devices, the high end one is only the Liquid S2 which is their current flagship, and it's the first phone to have the 4K video recording feature. But I don't really like Acer phones, their phones have boring looking and nothing to wow about, they should improve their design.
8. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yeah, they won't be missed.. But, the more WP OEM's the better...
49. sgodsell (Posts: 2392; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
I remember back in 2011 reports back then were telling everyone that WP was going to have 25% by 2015. As it stands today WP barely has 3% of the market. During all of 2013 Android and iOS made up 94% of all the smartphone sales, leaving only 6% for Blackberry, Symbian, WP, and the rest.
67. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Who cares?.... Why do you even comment on WP articles.. We know you have Zero faith in the platform, you are super biased against it, and that you would never give it a fair assessment.. So, why would we listen to anything you have to say?... Never reply to me ever again...
73. PBXtech (Posts: 1028; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
You should care. If the market share doesn't get into the double digits, MS will make drastic changes, which could end up killing WP as it is today. Every WP user should care.
80. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
What business does a troll like you have telling me how to view my platform?.. Why should I listen to you, or care about your opinion, when all you can input is unconstructive criticism about WP?.. Tell me, how, and why should I think that your points are valid?...... Why should any WP fan?... Who are you?.. Why are you here?
83. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
You got some answers??? You at least owe us that!
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Acer is only being prudent with their investment $. Anyone who went into BB's OS10 has not recovered their investment. Time to wait and see if MS gets to critical mass.
BTW, how are the WP fans responding to posts on PA? I tried clicking on Reply using IE on a L1520, and it was no-go. But no problems at all using my Maxx and Chrome.
9. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I'm on my 1520 right now... Just using the mobile version of PA.. It uses less data as well, and the page loads much faster..
Let me see how well the desktop version works...
10. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Wait.. You're a troll. You've never set your eyes on a real 1520 yet alone ever used one.. Nice try..
12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
In an attempt to get around the failings of IE on the 1520, I tried installing UC browser, but still no joy. Also, the tabs supposrt of IE is at best retarded. There is no support for just clicking on tabs such as is provided in Dolphin on Android or iOS. Still claim I have never used a real 1520? Let alone set eyes on one?
Which mobile version of PA are you using? I tried that too, but no where near the functionality of Chrome or Dolphin on Android or Dolphin on iOS.
16. elitewolverine (Posts: 3481; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Then you are broken Droid, using the app on a 925 gdr3....
18. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Which app are you using? I didn't find an 'official' PA app on the WP app store. There were a bunch of PA apps with other than PA as the developer, but I didn't find an app that showed PA as the developer.
Why won't the IE browser support Reply to posts on PA? Safari and Dolphin on iOS 6+ and Chrome and Dolphin on Android since like 4.1 (maybe lower, I just have forgotten how far back it worked) have supported the Reply to posts on PA.
24. elitewolverine (Posts: 3481; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Why don't you ask PA to clean up their code...........that is the real question.
at any rate Check out "Phone Arena" for Windows Phonehttp://www.windowsphone.com/s?
26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"Why don't you ask PA to clean up their code...........that is the real question."
I do find a certain amount of code bloat and inconsistency in implementation (across iOS, Android and OSX).... ;-)
Your link was to an app published by Miki Systems. Is this the best app of the non-PA published apps?
46. joey_sfb (Posts: 4355; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Not surprisingly, WP 8 scored only 338 on the html 5 compatibility test and secure the second last position in mobile category. 8 out of 9. The last position is MeeGo a defunct mobile OS.
Android Chrome currently at 488 second position while BB10 OS secure the first position.
Well, Congratulations to BB OS for having the most capable mobile browser.
Numbers don't lie WP fans check it out yourself;
61. MySchizoBuddy (Posts: 107; Member since: 23 Aug 2011)
no one gives a damn about HTML5 compatibility test.
82. joey_sfb (Posts: 4355; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
You are right! That's just one of the many flaws of wp8. HTML5 the industry standard well supported by everyone except MS.
Stop being so butt hurt I mere stating a fact. Lol!
20. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
Ughhh this ragging in EVERY WP articles is getting passed annoying already.
45. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Do you not see that fool bringing it up in non wp articles as well??
Wp fan is doing more damage then good for the thought of wp to potential interests.
Frak sakes he critizes an calls names of any derogatory comment made by someone.
He's made more two faced comments then most posters, combined.
And this, is limited to wp articles,.. No it is not.
PA needs to ban the boy.
29. ihavenoname (Posts: 1605; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
PA mobile site? I've never used one, does it even exist?
17. Gemmol (Posts: 658; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
I do not want to call you a fool or anything, because it may be your first time using the Lumia. I say that because I went from the Note 3 to Lumia 1520 and at first I was confuse why I could not reply with the Lumia 1520, but if you read you will learn that if you press down on the comment that you want to respond to the REPLY button will show up, all you do is hold down on the comment that you want to respond and it will pop up then you write your comment and submit to post it......Lumia 1520 IE is way better then Lumia 520 IE, I am not sure if the other Lumia use the same IE as Lumia 520 but if they do the Lumia 1520 have the best browser experience and it is just as good if not faster then the phones you listed, so @rodneyej1 is correct you are being a troll
22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
So, two-fingered requirement to Reply to posts on PA? Where only a single click is required on iOS and Android?
I will check the L1520 at the MS store tomorrow.
We will have to agree to disagree regarding IE being the best browser experience, though. Press-and-hold, then click Reply is anything but intuitive. But it may be a solution.
31. Gemmol (Posts: 658; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
press and hold is not make a big deal, but you right its not simple like other browsers where its one click. I do not know why they do it like that, but regardless Lumia 1520 is a really great phone, top of the line screen, top of the line camera, top of the line quality, and the battery is the best thing about it, for a device with high end parts snapdragon 800, with hd screen being 6 inch you would expect it to last 6 to 7 hours, but the truth is I can go 2 to 4 days without charging, I do not understand how you can go to the Microsoft store and touch that phone and leave without it. I guarantee if you own it and had it for a week where you get use to the size you will find it hard to put down, just like how I felt a year or two ago when the first note came out I could not go back to small phones. All it takes is one week with that bad boy and you hook. I guarantee once 8.1 comes out you will not be able to deny that sexy 1520 no more.
70. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
And, he doesn't have a 1520... Really? Don't fall for that BS. He's a strait troll.
69. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
All you have to do is use the Mobile version of PA.. That's what I'm using right now!! It works great!!! What's this guy talking about?
23. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
And how are you sending your post from your 920? Using IE? Using an app? If using an app, which one?
33. elitewolverine (Posts: 3481; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Why don't you ask PA to clean up their code...........that is the real question. Mainly because their reply requires a mouse over function. They have coded no alternative either. So yes PA is the one that needs to fix their coding. The other browsers are making up for PA's wrong coding and inability to recognize that it is a touch phone picking up the browser without a mouse.
at any rate Check out "Phone Arena" for WindowsPhonehttp://www.windowsphone.c
Also "Surfy Free" browser gives you tabs like you want. Try it out. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/surfy-free/a5820177-5118-4f34-b8c1-6715289fc321
34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Thank you for the response (+1). I will try the two recommendations.
35. Gemmol (Posts: 658; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
the guy who responded to you on post 33 is correct, I am on my PC now and if I do not scroll my mouse on the comment section the word reply would not come up, so this shows its the same as the Lumia 1520 meaning its web browser is exactly like the computer all those other ones are broken I'm joking on the broken part but its not suppose to show like that,
38. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"I'm joking on the broken part but its not suppose to show like that,"
I don't think your (or elitewolverine for that matter) assesssment is too far off. PA hasn't allowed for touch functionality in their code. Android and iOS have made allowance for this code omission while WP apparently has not. Hopefully MS fixes that omission in WP8.1.
48. joey_sfb (Posts: 4355; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
She also has a need to turn on her PC often after moving to a WP phone. Interesting read but only for the open minded.
59. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)