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A breakdown of the best-selling devices at AT&T and Verizon
We suppose this wasn't much of a mystery. BTIG Research determined that the iPhone 4 is the best-selling device at Verizon and AT&T retail locations.

They conducted the survey by contacting 250 retail stores, and asking them which devices were selling better than others. They didn't ask for specific numbers, so we can only see the percentage of stores at which a device is dominant.

At AT&T, the iPhone 4 has a commanding lead as the top device at 65% of AT&T's locations. Android devices were the top sellers at 31% of stores. At Verizon, the iPhone 4 is the top seller at 51% of stores, and 4G LTE Android handsets are the top sellers at 11% of stores. In case you didn't catch that, BTIG made the odd choice to compare the iPhone 4 with 4G LTE Android handsets at Verizon, rather than Android handsets overall.

The real shocker is that 2% of AT&T stores reported BlackBerry as the top seller, and 1% of stores reported Windows Phone 7 as the top seller. We think it would be interesting to see where those locations are (geographically, demographically), to see why those stores are defying the odds.

source: BTIG via Boy Genius Report
A breakdown of the best-selling devices at AT&T and Verizon
A breakdown of the best-selling devices at AT&T and Verizon

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posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:16

1. therygy (Posts: 94; Member since: 24 May 2010)


Is it a shocker that 2% of the stores said that blackberry was the top seller because is it a low number or a high number?

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 21:11

46. TheBrizz (Posts: 18; Member since: 24 Sep 2010)


Because it's a high number. I'd love to know how that happens at ANY store when you consider how hot the iPhone, Atrix and Inspire are.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:18 4

2. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 409; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


I have to comment.... 4G LTE phones with Verizon are the Thunderbolt by HTC, Samsung Charge and LG Revolution. (Why didn't they compare all Android phones vice only 4G/LTE devices)----which aren't selling that great due to the fact that they are overpriced with horrible battery life and LTE not everywhere, which make people opt for the Droid X2, DroidX, Incredible2, Droid Global, Samsung Fascinate...why didn't the survey include these devices....they are Android....don't just limit to 4G LTE devices.......I'm am sure the iphone would not have had this high number of sales.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:19 2

15. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


What kinda of math did you learn? I'm not trying to be insulting im just wondering what formula you would use to come to that conclusion? Apple(A) has 51% at Verizon stores, LTE android(L) has 11%. The variables are all other android devices(x) and all other devices(y). If the whole is 100%, and Apple has 51%, then the equation goes like this: A+L+X+Y=100%
Now we know the value of X is the total amount of android devices minus L, which itself cannot be more than 38%.
38% must be the limit for X. It cannot be bigger than that because A is not a variable. It is a fixed 51%. That doesn't change no matter what other number you throw on or "Hide".
This is basic algebra.
I'm not being an Apple fan or an android hater. These are numbers that's all.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:24 1

28. hepresearch (unregistered)


Unfortunately, even the known quantities in this so-called "data" are ambiguous at best... because of the labels, we actually cannot tell if they included other Android handsets in the mixed category for Verizon. "4G LTE" got 11%, and "iPhone" got 51%, but this does NOT mean that the other 38% is something else... the third label is "Same"? I am tempted to think this means that 38% of Verizon stores in the "sample" expressed that "iPhone" and "4G LTE" categories were nearly equal "in their opinion", though I should not assume such a meaning. If it does not mean that, then BTIG Research picked a very poor name for the category that could represent any or all other devices... and if it does mean what I think it does, then BTIG failed to get meaningful readings because it is impossible for 38% of Verizon stores in their "sample" to have sold exactly equal numbers of "iPhone" and "4G LTE".

As for the AT&T chart, there are so many problems that it would be a waste of my time to talk about it... and with such a mess of mixed signals, poorly handled "data", and ambiguous labels in this so-called "survey", I really don't feel like picking it all apart. Suffice it to say that "basic algebra" is not even helpful with trying to understand these shoddy pie charts...

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:58 2

33. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Its a poll of how well phones are selling in stores that were polled. So it does mean that the other 38% consists of non lte android phones and non Apple devices. Its using a pie chart. A pie chart should tell u this is based off a 100% pool model. Meaning if 62% is accounted for then 38% must be the remaining and cannot consist of items from the 62%. Its very straight forward. To think that just because non lte Android devices weren't mentioned they aren't considered is naive at best. They were considered, that's evident by the use of percentages of all phones sold. You can't have percentages of 2 types of phones sold and not account the others if the 2 don't equal 100%. The problem here is that only lte Android devices were compared. That's what is tripping people up. But by no means does it mean they were the only ones looked at. So the other 38% of Verizon stores not mentioned sold more devices that were not lte or Apple. That might mean the other 38% sold more android than anything else. Or that could be 37% and 1% sold more blackberry. Or however you wanna add it up but the numbers remain to say no more than 49% of stores sold more android than anything else.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:22 1

37. hepresearch (unregistered)


In that case then, you have assumed that the 38% consists of some other option that is neither "4G LTE" or "iPhone". There is absolutely no basis for this assumption, and just because a pie chart "adds up" to 100% does not mean that it represents all of the phones sold by the "sample" store locations. BTIG Research has couched their words and displays quite carefully to show favor to a certain handset maker, and in the process they have opened the door to extreme misinterpretation and assumptions as well... this "survey" was done very poorly, and the results were presented in an even poorer fashion. BTIG Research has wasted PA's time and web page resources, and honestly I do not feel like wasting any more of my time trying to help people here see this BTIG "survey" for what it is... a biased, illegitimate sham!

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:35

29. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Don't know where you learned your English but it's OF the stores on which device that sold better.
That means throughout the Verizon stores used in this research, 51% of Verizon stores were selling the iPhone better.
ie. Out of 100 Verizon stores, the iPhone is the best selling in 51 stores when compared to LTE devices. 11 stores have the LTE devices as best selling.

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 10:19

53. Krutan (unregistered)


Your overly convuluted math is right, but your reading skills need checked. Apple is best seeling AT 51% OF Verizon retail locations. That has nothing to do with the actual number of phones.

You could, for instance, have a crappy kiosk location selling 20 phones a month with the majority of those being IPhones.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:22 2

3. Whateverman (Posts: 3198; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Yeah, why no mention of non 4G Android devices? And why just store locations? this sounds a little suspicious!

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:24 3

4. snowgator (Posts: 3209; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


"They didn't ask for specific numbers, so we can only see the percentage of stores at which a device is dominant."

Well, so long as it is accurate. No sales person would ever lie to slant numbers to his/her favorite devices, now would they???

iPhone is an amazingly well supported device. Apple refuses to allow it out of the consumers mind. While Android as an OS may be larger, I doubt we will see any single device outsell it as long as the brain trust at Apple stays intact.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:49 1

5. JohnC (unregistered)


Meaningless statistic - You could sell 40 Android phones to 5 iphones, but if it was 4 of each model Android phone, the iphone would be your top seller and would show up at 100% despite being only 11% of sales.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:02 1

34. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Not completely true. I see what you're saying but that's assuming the poll is device specific. Its not. Its grouping android devices together. This is not individual handset sales. Well not at att, at Verizon it is individual Apple handset sales. But Android is still grouped. But that's only because there's only one Verizon iPhone.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:57 1

42. hepresearch (unregistered)


On the Verizon chart, it is clearly "iPhone" against "4G LTE"... not versus all other Androids for the Verizon chart. The catch is that the "Same" slice possibly refers to all the Verizon stores where the employee on-site felt that iPhones and 4G LTE phones were selling in near-equal portions... in other words, there is a "tie" category. The AT&T chart also has this "Same" slice, but it is incredibly small, only 2%. On the AT&T chart, it begs the question "Same as what?" Do they mean that "iPhone" and "4G Android" phones sold equally well, or that "iPhone" and "WP7" sold equally well, etc. There is simply no way to be sure, but the clearly intended impression is that "iPhone" is being displayed as the dominant model/smartphone OS being sold at both AT&T stores and Verizon stores. My spidey-sense tells me there is some data-cooking going on here...

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:52 3

6. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Above posters are correct. This was a s**tty and misleading survey.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 15:48 6

10. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


why? because iphone won? u have to find some reason why it cant win?

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 15:59 8

11. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Because there's no real metric by which it won. The choice of competition is weird and arbitrary, the sample is small, and the categories are poorly labelled. We don't know where the stores are or the demographics involved. And these are also not based on tracked numbers but on the word of salespeople who may or may not be right.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:16 1

22. Phoneguy007 (Posts: 218; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)


what kind of sample is this.....

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:08 2

27. hepresearch (unregistered)


Yeah, what Sniggly just said...

+1

If the folks at BTIG Research had said this was a "scientific" survey, I would have to have laughed in their faces. Not only did they not bother to collect really vital information, such as exact sales figures, which are absolutely necessary for any credible survey, but they apparently (... conveniently...) discarded all useful information that they actually did collect (such as demographics and locations of stores). So now, we have all these lovely pie charts, but absolutely no basis of any kind in representing reality... and they probably no longer have a record of which stores they actually bothered to call. Sad, sad, sad...

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 20:48 1

45. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


but, i am just saying, wudnt it be a much more random number than the somwhat accurate numbers that they have? and, 250 retail stores isnt entirely small... yes i understand the survey has its faults, but it is as it says, and all surveys have some faults... but besides for a small shift in numbers, the underlying principle is still true-- in att and verizon the iphone is outselling the other devices in a pretty decent amount of stores...

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 07:41

52. hepresearch (unregistered)


Um... lets see... because the results don't seem so random to me, and because they match what my close friends, whom I have deemed to be credible, are telling me on a regular basis, they must be "somwhat accurate"? What do you call accurate? Apparently, removing all non-4G Android phones from the "survey" is what is required to make sure the results are accurate... apparently the iPhone 4, without "4G", is automagically superior to any non-4G Android phone...

Most research/polling firms consider a data set of 1000 samples, minimum, to be "due diligence". 250 samples cuts the veracity of the result in half... someone decided to be lazy, or nit-pick which stores they would sample...

There is no "underlying principle" involved here... BTIG cut all non-4G Android phones out of the picture in order to make the iPhone look better... and then also took a slight, cursory stab at embarrassing BB and WP7 in the same breath.

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 14:00

55. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


okay, well i understand the 4g at verizon, but there are no decent non-4g phones at att... only the captivate and i highly doubt that is the number 1 selling thing anymore... u know the margin or error is only 6%... that really is not very much...

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 21:20

56. hepresearch (unregistered)


6% is not a bad margin-of-error... for a high school science lab result. In my chosen field of study, we deal with errors smaller than 10^-12 on a routine basis, so 6% is, like, thousands of standard deviations... not that the "survey" required a whole lot of precision, but it would have been nicer if the margin was cut in half at least. You will notice, though, that the Android phones in the AT&T sample are restricted to HSPA+, so it eliminates all standard 3G Android phones from the "survey". To assume that 3G Androids on AT&T are negligible is not a very legitimate assumption at all.

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 23:21

57. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


tell me what 3g android phones there are that are popular? the only popular ones are the 4g ones... nd how is 6% thousands of standard deviations away when one is 34%?

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 21:22

47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


This same survey was done and it showed thunderbolt was the best selling Verizon phone. At that time you thought the survey was legitimate. I can pull up your posts if you'd like troll.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 14:57 3

7. AndroidOS (Posts: 100; Member since: 21 Jun 2011)


Why no specefics and why only 4G?

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 15:11 3

8. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Hahahahahahahaha :)

Wait till the ip5, or whatever it's going to be called, comes out ;)

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 15:33 3

9. Hello-dirt (Posts: 102; Member since: 02 May 2010)


I'm waiting, and will still be waiting even after it comes out.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:00 2

12. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


And wait until the Bionic comes out. :)

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:48

19. bucky (Posts: 1399; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


stay away from motorola

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:34 1

25. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Staying with Motorola has served me well since 2007.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:02

13. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


If iPhone was outselling at 51% then no matter how you look at it Android as a whole couldn't have been more than 49%. And that's saying Android was the only other top seller. So don't worry, its not that suspicious that they pitted iPhone vs 4G android phones. 4G android phones are naturally verizons biggest android advantage over iPhone. So even if it was all Android devices it wouldn't add up to be more than 51%.
Nothing sneaky here. However 51% is such a close number and margin for error with polls is usually 3% so take it with a grain of salt. But just because there is a margin for error don't go thinking that error is taking away from iPhones 51%. It could go either way.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:31 1

17. AaronG (unregistered)


I think your math is wrong. The 51% would probably go down if more phones were included.

Example: 100 Iphones sold. 50 Android 4G phones sold. If they added 100 non-4G Android phones it would be 150 Android phones. Thus, making the iPhone % smaller.

Hope that was clear enough.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:02 1

20. WhaTheHeck (unregistered)


Its clear to me.

"In case you didn't catch that, BTIG made the odd choice to compare the iPhone 4 with 4G LTE Android handsets at Verizon, rather than Android handsets overall."

In case you didn't catch that, BTIG made the odd choice to compare the iPhone 4 with 4G LTE Android handsets at Verizon, rather than Android handsets overall.
the article/comparison is bogus beyond belief.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:22

38. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


The problem is your adding units and not percentages. You assume the only included devices are those listed. Not the whole inventory.
You're example:
"Example: 100 Iphones sold. 50 Android 4G phones sold. If they added 100 non-4G Android phones it would be 150 Android phones"
Is misled. You're mistake is assigning set values to the percentages.the poll amounts for all phones sold in the stores. If 50 lte phones are 11%(the value you assigned) then adding another 100 android devices is adding another 22%. Making android come to 33% total. Since all devices were accounted for(even though only 4g devices were compared) you aren't actually adding devices by accounting for the exact number of non lte android devices, you are just eliminating X as a variable(to use the math from a previous post) by identifying it as 100. The percentages are set, by assigning values you have ruined the math and made and incorrect equation because the percentages are always the same. The amount of iPhones was not identified. Nor was the amount of any phone. Only the percentage of stores that sold more iPhones. Out of 250 stores 51% sold more iPhones. thaT 51% is static, fixed, cannot be changed. That means no matter how many more android devices you add, more than half of the stores report more iPhones sold. The only way to change that is add more stores not devices.

To make it simpler: don't think of the devices being polled, think of the subject of the poll as the store. That is what is actually being polled.

That said this poll isn't the best example of scientific study. But with the numbers given these are the results.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:46

40. hepresearch (unregistered)


Unfortunately, your statement "Since all devices were accounted for..." is an assumption, again. Just because the pie adds up to 100% does not mean that it includes all devices sold by the "sampled" stores. That is simply not specified anywhere in the charts or even the news article. The third slice, labelled "Same", does not have to represent all models that are neither "4G LTE" or "iPhone". If that was the case, then the AT&T chart would be extremely confusing... why would "other" smartphones and feature phones only account for 2% of AT&T's total sales at "sampled" stores? I will go as far as to say that the AT&T and Verizon charts have actually been treated differently in order to intentionally exaggerate the appearance of "iPhone" sales at Verizon stores, and to intentionally belittle the appearance of Blackberry and WP7 sales at AT&T stores. Niether WP7 or BB was mentioned at all on the Verizon chart, and yet "4G LTE" was the sole choice compared with "iPhone" that is actually acknowledged. No where in either chart does it specifically say that any other devices, smartphone or feature phone, were included in the "survey". The surveyor in charge has stacked the decks for us...

posted on 24 Jun 2011, 12:49

58. mrisco11 (unregistered)


I think you are looking at it wrong. 51% of store report the iPhone as their best seller when compared to 4G LTE Android phones. That does not meant 51% of phones sold are iPhones.

Ex.
Store A is called and asked to participate in the survey. This store has sold 50 iPhones, 20 4G android phones and 75 3G android phones.

If you ask the manager what sold more iPhone or 4G android, he will say iPhone because 50>20, however if you asked what sold more iPhone or android, the answer would be android because 95>50.

Changing the parameters can have drastic changes on the results.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:38 2

26. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Clever, the survey is not about what margin the iphone 4 supposedly has over other devices in each store. It's about what percentage of stores overall report the iPhone 4was as their top seller. So in the time period surveyed, 5 iphone could have been sold versus 4 Android phones in each store and thus "won." It's the same standard by which a president can win an election despite losing the popular vote.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:36 1

30. hepresearch (unregistered)


The sample was 250 store sites, each with equal weight... therefore, we take the standard approach to determine error in a multi-point data set; Standard Error = (100%)/sqrt(sample size). Very simple. In this case, we divide 1 by the square-root of 250. This gives about 0.063 (with two significant figures), for 6.3%. The small sample size is a huge problem.

The typical poll that you see on the "mainstream media" sites usually has 1000 data points, and hence the seemingly "standard" margin-of-error of 3%... never assume that every poll automatically has a margin-of-error of 3%.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:06

36. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Well said. Thx for the lesson.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:37

31. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Don't know where you learned your English but it's OF the stores on which device that sold better.
That means throughout the Verizon stores used in this research, 51% of Verizon stores were selling the iPhone better.
ie. Out of 100 Verizon stores, the iPhone is the best selling in 51 stores when compared to LTE devices. 11 stores have the LTE devices as best selling.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:04 1

14. TJ (unregistered)


3G Droids are highly profitable, for the commissioned employee, the store, and Verizon corporate. Their job on the store level is to talk about why you DIDNT want an IPhone, and why the Droids are much better.

Either most of these stores are order-takers (and not salesmen), or the absense of 3G Android is meant to bolster Apple's percentage in this survey.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:30

16. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


listen it was about a best selling DEVICE not company.. HTC, MOTO or APPLE, and survey or no survey we all know that the best selling DEVICE is the iphone, just putting my two cents :-)

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 16:32 1

18. DroidDoesAss (unregistered)


Is this kid really comparing the Bionic to the next iPhone? HAHAHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS??!?!?! wow I can't wait till the sales figures come out. WATCH OUT FOR THOSE BIONIC LINES FORMING AROUND THE STORE. the iPhone 3Gs or the iPhone 4 will still sell better than the Bionic. Wow what an ass clown

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 18:47 2

32. hepresearch (unregistered)


HAH! Who you calling "kid"? Yeah, um... I don't buy things that I have to stand in a freaking line to get. That's like looking at a fly trap, and thinking, "Wow, there are so many flies over there, they must have found something really awesome!" And I hope you enjoy your iPhone4S with iOS 5... especially when the camera application is blocked when you arrive at the next live music concert you attend...

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:03

35. Sniggly (Posts: 6998; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Hi, genius. Just so you know, the DROID X last year sold like hotcakes. The Bionic has the name, the hardware and the connection tech to make it an extremely attractive device. All it will need now is the marketing, and unless Motorola fails extremely hard it will sell.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 21:49

49. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


How sell did it sell sniggly? Do you have a source? Did it sell even 1 million?

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:13 1

21. LOLOLOL (unregistered)


This article just like many is so biased to Apple.

I work for a retailor with more than 40 locations and the Android is easily the #1 selling device.

Id say our top 3 devices are:

1) HTC Incredible II
2) HTC Thunderbolt
3) Apple iPhone

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:22

24. LOLOLOL (unregistered)


I just ran numbers and here are top 3:

1) HTC Incredible II
2) iPhone
3) HTC Thunderbolt

So iphone has passed Thunderbolt now, as last month it was higher

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 17:20 2

23. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


seems fake, come on its from boy genius report , who the fawk is that? if it were pc world i would believe it.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:37 1

39. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1003; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)


theres no reason for this article cause we all know what phone is the best selling from both AT&T and Verizon?? I like the fact that Android phones are making quite a splash within AT&T

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 19:53

41. truthbetold (unregistered)


Im assuming that same is 3G android phones. On a daily basis verizon sells 2/3 more android devices than apple.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 20:11 1

43. Whateverman (Posts: 3198; Member since: 17 May 2009)


@ truthbetold. No, "Same" means that the iPhone 4 and LTE Androids are selling about the same in that store. 3G Android devices were not counted in this survey at all.

posted on 22 Jun 2011, 21:31

48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


So I actually read the article and here's what it is. The question was which phone is selling the best not which OS. That means that iPhone is selling better than any other phone. Not that it's selling all androids combined. I still thin it's impressive. The iPhone is now 1 year old. A lot of the trolls on here spelled doomsday for iPhone once lte phones came out. That's clearly not the case. In fact some troll on here claimed that it wasn't fair to compare the iPhone to 4g phones because they're buggy and have battery life? And yet Apple sucks if they don't have 4g

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 01:40

50. applesauce (unregistered)


I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
About 60% of the stores in this "poll" were apple stores!

Also, the severe lack of non-smartphones in higher numbers is highly suspicious

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 03:03

51. ogre150 (Posts: 22; Member since: 16 Apr 2010)


What it looks like to me is that they asked the Verizon stores: "Which sells better? The iPhone 4 or 4G lte devices?" That's it. No mention of specific handsets other than the iP4.

So given the choice of just the two... you get 51% iP4, 11% 4G lte, and 38% are selling the iP4 and 4G lte handsets equally.

Maybe if they asked a general question of which smartphone, regardless of make or features, the number's would be a little different.

For Verizon, anyway. The At&t group surveyed looked to be more open as to which smartphone could be the best selling at any given store.

I love android and hate apple. But I hated apple when I used the apple 2E computers back in the 80s. Never liked a closed format. The PC could be upgraded and tinkered with, not the apple computer. So yes I have a bias, but you have to agree, so does this survey.

posted on 23 Jun 2011, 12:26

54. URC (unregistered)


They didn't call my store and ask. We sell maybe 2 iPhones per week tops.

posted on 22 Aug 2011, 01:28

59. buy lexapro online (unregistered)


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