Tim Cook said 'No' to suing Samsung but Steve Jobs said 'Yes'
The relationship between the two companies started with Steve Jobs' desire to lock in a large supply of flash memory, back in 2005. Signing the deal with Samsung, which then had 50% of the flash market, provided Apple with the steady flow of chips it needed to produce the Apple iPhone, Apple iPod and Apple iPad. At the same time, it gave Samsung an insight into what Apple was thinking. With the unique knowledge that Sammy had, it could tell that the Cupertino based Apple felt that it had a big winner with the iPhone.
Apple has been able to take advantage of Samsung's continuous upgrading of its capital plant. Last year, the company spent $21 billion on capital expenditures with a similar amount budgeted this year. But this relationship is also full of hate.
The popularity of iPhone is a mere result of excitement caused by some (Apple) fanatics," but Samsung's mobile head had a different thought. "The iPhone's emergence means the time we have to change our methods has arrived," said J.K. Shin the same year. The Samsung Galaxy S was born, followed by the Samsung Galaxy Tab which was seen as a blatant iPad ripoff at Apple. Cook had counseled patience, but Steve Jobs had had enough and in April of 2011, Apple filed its first lawsuit against Samsung. And the rest, as they say, is history.
1. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Whoa....this would be a major bombshell if true. I would actually start looking at Cook a lil different....
If thats the case....why are the lawsuits still going on then...? Doesnt add up.
6. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
the reason why they are still going on is because they were already started and have gone too far not to continue the process. It would just make no sense to stop now unless they came to an agreement. Beyond that, they will continue until their eventual end.
26. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
They may be past the moment of no return, but that is a terrible place to be more often than not. Nobody wins in the end....
35. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
That's true man, it seems like it won't end.
56. sprockkets (Posts: 1361; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Same for Moto after Google took them over - they already started and they were sued back.
10. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
You should learn something from your boss.
11. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
something we all gotta do at one point or another mxy..
13. tedkord (Posts: 5264; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I could respect the man if the reason he was against the lawsuits was he was embarrassed to sue over such silly (and often stolen) patents.
But, in the end, the lawsuits only helped Samsung. While Apple put all its energy into litigating, Samsung out innovated them and became the number one smartphone vendor in the world. (Of course, it helped them to have the number one mobile platform in the world)
21. metalpoet (unregistered)
Steve Jobs was not a great man, he was just a business man(he is the Donald Trump of the Cell Phone World). Apple filed a bunch of ridiculous patents on s**t that they wouldnt come out with until it was already redudant technology like having an 8MP camera 1 year after most smartphones consider that a basic necessity. Or finally having a 4inch touchscreen when that was a fad that happened in 2011! They had patents just so they could make their money from lawsuits instead of actually coming out with truly revolutionary technology. Rumors fly around about the transparant iPad, I feel they have that patent and will sue if anyone comes out with a transparant tablet even though they wont release one until maybe 2020!
9. omar300 (Posts: 194; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)
if tim cock wanted he could have with drawn the motion. no would turn down chance of winning a billion dollars.. atleast i wouldnt.
15. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
If the cost of winning the 1 billion dollar turns out to be 3 times then who wouldn't (except 1 person of course) ... What has Apple gained so far out of all this? Nothing except the tag of a PATENT TROLL.
16. Droiddoes (unregistered)
Only two explanations:
1) Cook is a liar
2) Cook is a p*ssy still getting bossed around by a rotten corpse.
19. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 203; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
If this is true then he really has no choice but to finish what jobs started. cant back out and admit samsung was right. it would hurt the apples credibility too much.
41. tedkord (Posts: 5264; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That ship sailed the day Apple claimed that a tap is just a zero length swipe.
25. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I still don't get why people act as though Cook is like Jobs. I have respect for both men, but Cook has shown from the start that he is far more calm and caring than Jobs. I'm not shocked to hear this at all. In Jobs' head, Samsung's phones looking like Apple was personal, no matter how much money Apple had. Cook probably was like, "What's the big deal? The iPhone is the top smartphone on the market and everything else is an iPhone look alike." (Everything at the time was colloquially called that) Cook is a different guy that Jobs. His actions will be different to no shock.
42. tedkord (Posts: 5264; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I agree, Tim Cook is much more of a human being than Steve Jobs ever was. However, his actions belie his supposed philosophy. Not only is he not trying to stop the litigation, but he is pursuing new litigation.
For a man who claims to hate lawsuits, he seems hell bent on making them Apples number one product.
45. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I think a lot of people here have a hard time separating the CEOs from the company, which is understandable to some degree, but I think Cook hasn't really been given a chance at all by some.
Yeah, the lawsuits are still going. And there's still issues with China, and no manufacting here in the US. But that first decision to match all employee's charitable donations was BIG for me, write off or not. Talks about making devices here and steps Apple has taken in China were signs to me that things might be changing too. But some people see "Apple" and they hear "Steve Jobs, thermonuclear, stolen product, holding it wrong..." This is a completly different CEO, give the guy a chance!
I have to assume that the iPad mini was Tim Cook's idea considering SJs feelings about 7 inch tablets. With that in mind, I gotta say Cook is good for Apple, but only time will tell.
53. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Well, the cases have been researched, the lawyers paid... The investors want that money back.
2. Droiddoes (unregistered)
steve jobs was an irrational insufferable prick! Water is wet! Fire is hot! These stories and more, and Chip Taylor with sports tonight at 9, on "No Sh*t News".
What a douche
5. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
Actually that is pretty funny because Apple is dependent on Samsung for parts still today. And even if money exchanged hands from Samsung to Apple, they would get it right back anyway. The only purpose would then be to have public acceptance of their claims. EIther way though, its a marriage made in blood.
8. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Steve Jobs started it, fine.
Tim Cook can drop the charges...period!
(If this is true)
Or does he wants to continue the legacy? Especially since what comes after the win is not pen and paper.
12. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm not sure about suing for the hardware, there isn't much variation when it comes to making a candy bar style phone. But TouchWiz definitly crossed the line IMO. Taking an app, and applying a color square behind it was an obvious attempt to make it look like iOS. But trying to ban phones for multi touch, round corners, and data tapping just seems petty.
43. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Whateverman what do u think about wp8 which I absolutely love, and BB10? My fiancé has the 8x, and I can't get enough of that phone. I'm thinking about grabbing one on Craigslist.
44. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
WP8 is scary to me only because of past experience with Windows Mobile (I know, I gotta let it go!) but I must admit, it look damn good. I really wish there was more customization with backgrounds and live tiles, but I love the way the transitions. You know, the way the titles and sub-titles are staggered when you scroll right to left. Silly little thing, but it's so cool!
BB 10 also looking sharp, but I suffering from big-screen envy. I know 4.2 isn't tiny, but I gotta have that Note 2 next! You getting the 8X? Well I look forward to your review! No Ubuntu or Sailfish in the forecast?
47. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Don't know too much about them, but knowing me I'll be trying them. I'm a sucker for tech. As far as big screen envy, I have a note 2 and I love the screen size, but not the feel of the phone. I love my iPhones feel, but not the size of the screen. What to do lol.
63. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
Have a WP8 for my work phone (Nokia Lumia 822). As far as the software performs its actually pretty smooth. Doesn't lag much and the touch response is very responsive. Camera is decent & so is battery life. BUT w/that said...the software as a whole seems to be undercooked. The type of available apps aren't up to par w/Android or iOS, small refinements like being able to change the wallpaper don't exist (only on the lock screen), & the browser doesn't do the greatest job at rendering web pages. I wouldn't say the software is bad...it's just "different". At this point it's just too new to give it a fair rating. Hopefully Blackberry doesn't come off the same way...
48. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I also had a bad experience with WinMo. I tried the HD2, and man after about 6 hrs that phone, and I were broken up lol.
14. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
OK ... good so what next? Is this story part of some PR exercise?
17. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Oh sure. Cook said no to suing Samsung. Of course. It's just that it's complete BS because all the lawsuits happened long after Steve was dead.
32. Aeires (unregistered)
Accelerated lawsuits after Jobs passed on. Sorry, I'm not buying Cooks is a good guy either.
18. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1291; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
This story will not stop Apple from releasing another crappie "s" model in 2013.
20. syedzain (Posts: 175; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
well both the companies should end this shi** wars...
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
These companies r too I portent to each other for this. Come to a mutual, and amicable agreement soon please.
24. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
DJ, I don't know if you've got an ex-girlfriend on PA or what, but you've got yourself a really persistent stalker here dude. You could say "I like babies" and your stalker is gonna thumb you down. What's the deal?
29. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Whateverman: I wish I knew bro, I speak my mind but I'm not a basher, or disrespectful person. I think it's that I'm primarily an apple user who also loves android. Due to the fact I refuse to join the in crowd and hate on apple I get the red treatment. It's all good though. I'm a techie, not a fanboy of either camp, and some don't like that.
30. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Well, I agree with about 95% of everything you say. Keep it up sir!
31. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Thanks bro, I just see no reason to hate on, insult, threaten, and disrespect people cause they choose this and I choose that. If your issue is with apple, then why hate on some one that uses an iPhone? Head up to apple HQ, and deal with them directly ya know.
36. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
The reason people hate on others on here is they usually post some stupid junk about this company or that company is basically God to them, which is foolish at the least. Whatever OS you prefer, do not come like it is perfect for everyone. There is no such thing as "perfect for everyone", yet too many people espouse their opinion as if it is fact. That is why some people get the hate, and sometimes, honestly, it is deserved, imo.
40. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Team android, and team iOS need to understand this. That's one of the reasons I use both, both great both imperfect.
59. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1893; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I heartily agree with you. Just yesterday someone commented that they loved anything a company did, and that company was their life. If that's your life, it's a sad one.
We should define our stuff, not be defined by them.
38. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I portent lol. Oops how about important.
28. f1r3z0r (Posts: 87; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
True or false! This is ridiculous because all phone looks the same in the end such as speaker camera etc... Haters gonna hate....
46. JusMePnut (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
The board would vote Cook out if he decided to not sue Samsung. So it's just like Apple to continue with what they already know than to bring change. I mean look at the OS. It's the same as when it was launched.
49. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The lawsuit is the best advertisement Samsung ever received, sales jumped on the $1B news and Sammy may not have to pay that while advertisement value of those weeks in the media is worthy of $10B at least.
50. Friendlysky (Posts: 54; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
I am not suprise at all! Now who will build all those chip for us after all the damage we have done with Samsung. Samsung is a long rival and important partner who is can build all those chip and Screen for us. Too late now who do we looking to build all those major import parts for us. Taiwan and others Korean Say No. ammmmmmmmmmm WHO?????????. This is the end for Apple Quality and brand Name. Good Job Sammy you, HTC, RIMM and Nokia to play the world. Unless someone coming up with a new one.
51. nikenturd (unregistered)
Cook acting like he is Pontius Pilate or something, wow......it was his command responsibility to make the lawsuit happen? No?
52. nikenturd (unregistered)
They had a winnable case in their home turf, Cook is just playing the classic "don't shoot the messenger" game.....fishing for sympathy eh Timmy boy?
54. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6736; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
SUCH A SMARTER GUY THAN JOBS was.
55. darkkjedii (Posts: 12624; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
The Walking Dead premier was simply awesome.