Sand in batteries? Scientists may have found a way to triple battery life on smartphones and tablets
1. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
3 days of usage : good very good
12. buccob (Posts: 2331; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Hopefully but knowing Manufacturers they will instead make phones 3x thinner.... and 1/3 of its battery lasting potential...
Until they truly understand that battery is #1 concern
16. Synack (Posts: 674; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
You can only get a thin as the screen and headphones jack will allow. I believe the latest iPod nano has reached that limit.
23. elitewolverine (Posts: 4125; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
not if you have a mag adapter.... at that point it is as thin as a magnet can be.
25. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Introducing: headphone jack 2.0. Now 5x smaller!
40. Tuxedo (Posts: 321; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
The next move is probably to ditch the 3.5mm jack a go exclusively for audio over Bluetooth. Now with low pwr BT, it might actually be feasible.
41. lyndon420 (Posts: 3254; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
I agree. It will be interesting to see just how far technology will go with this. Throw in some solar, motion and heat charging capabilities and these fricken things will be charging when we are using them or in our pockets.
48. pavsidhu (Posts: 214; Member since: 20 May 2014)
Audio will not go only over bluetooth solely any time soon, we're too reliant on the audiojack.
30. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
Battery is not my concern. I am not glued to it. Im not anti social when my friend are around me. I dont use all day. My iPhone 5s and Nexus both last a good eight-nine hours.
35. Penny (Posts: 1615; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Actually, the real concern is product roadmap. Why release something in one day that you can gradually release over 5 years and make a lot more money? Don't make a 200% improvement now, just make a 100% improvement for the first generation, and then a 50% improvement for the second generation.
More sales and revenue, yay! Plus we have our innovation for the next few years!
18. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
6-7 days ? if so its mean u never turn on the device
24. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
What's the point of having a smartphone at that point if you're going to disable all of the things that make it a smartphone? Might has well just get a flip phone, it'll last you months on a single charge.
37. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10208; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You can still use the internet, make phone calls and send text messages - which is what most people use their phones for. With that being said, your comment is now invalid.
38. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
y u get s5 for just internet call and text ? I remember my s2 holds 2 and half days but I was just checking the time, important thing is normal battery life not that weird saving modes all phones has 1 or 1 and half days of battery life so 3 days of intense usage is very satisfying for me ( and I know everything about s5 dont need to google it )
44. gutuebogdan (Posts: 29; Member since: 16 Oct 2013)
2 and a half days galaxy s2? Only if you forgot to unplug it... mine won't last for 12 hours on a charge (this with minimum to medium use)
46. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
but I didnt use phone, just wake up the device for check the time thats all .
54. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10208; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If you knew everything about the S5, you would know how long the battery lasts. And I call complete BS on two and a half days on a charge. Complete bs - especially with the old TW and running data in the background. Your comments noe have little to no meaning and aren't credible.
Go outside UPSM, you can still use apps heavily and get over at least six hours of on screen time with heavy use.
43. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
"You can still use the internet, make phone calls and send text messages - which is what most people use their phones for. With that being said, your comment is now invalid."
51. Furbal (Posts: 707; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
Yeah, i'd keep mine in UPSM most of the time if it had the camera enabled.
Text/Web/Camera are what I use most :(
27. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1873; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
If I barely check my Z2 during the day, it only uses 20% for 24 hrs of usage. so that's 5 days more or less.
29. needa (Posts: 205; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)
there is an opo (oneplus) right now coming up on three days, was 64 hours a couple of hours ago. with 3h 14m screen time. 13% left. with gnow turned on and the new always on ok google thing. but the guy is pretty much airplane mode when sleeping. still pretty impressive.
45. jgalvez21 (Posts: 21; Member since: 29 May 2014)
the z2 have battery of a note 3. though...and way smaller screen
32. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
I'd probably still only get one day of usage out of it. It would just give me an excuse to use my battery that much more liberally. :)
58. Ashoaib (Posts: 3009; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
why not try mixing little black paper and red chilli to give little extra boost? :p
2. apple4never (Posts: 1058; Member since: 08 May 2013)
think about how this will affect cars as well, we can finally have an electric car with good range
7. KillgoreTroutTime (Posts: 433; Member since: 06 Jan 2014)
That is a bit of a leap. This new tech may have an advantage in one area but huge trade offs in others. You can't just read an article like this and think this will change everything. Would this be useful if the batteries degraded 10 times faster than current ones? or 100 times faster? Or they charged much slower? There are many potential issues that weren't brought up at all in the article.
31. TBomb (Posts: 548; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
Understandable points to make, but don't rule it out yet. just as you can't leap to conclusions that it can be perfect for cars, you can make that leap in the opposite direction. Let's wait for more testing and research with these sand batteries before anyone shuts down any ideas
3. WahyuWisnu (Posts: 1001; Member since: 29 May 2014)
9000 mAH battery in current 3000mAH size. GREAT!
39. wilsong17 (unregistered)
Nothing beat the note 3 10000mah battery zero lemon
4. Shubham412302 (Posts: 403; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
about 2 years ago 2 girls brought up idea of silicon batteries with 5x capacity as that of li-ion batteries
it is not seen yet
hope atleast this is implemented
11. Scott93274 (Posts: 3412; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
I've actually read silicon can store 10x the storage capacity of graphite. but when it holds a charge, the silicon swells making it not ideal for small electronic devices like phones and tablets. There's actually an article about this if you were to Google "Pomegranate-Inspired Battery Breakthrough". It goes over concepts of making silicon batteries a reality for consumer products.
19. Synack (Posts: 674; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
And this girl other girl can give those 2 girls her superfast battery charger that she made last year.
5. drazwy (Posts: 181; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Super exciting news. Probably 10 years out till market though. Typically slow uptake.
8. Stuntman (Posts: 830; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
Now that they can make batteries last 3 times as long, phone manufactures will put batteries 1/3 as big in phones.
13. buccob (Posts: 2331; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
lol I thought the same thing before scrolling down to your comment...
unnecessary 3 mm phones
10. DFranch (Posts: 171; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
It seems like I read this same article about huge breakthroughs in battery technology every few months. However I never see these batteries hit the market.
14. JOHNNY8573 (Posts: 37; Member since: 11 Nov 2013)
GREAT....what do i do know with all the extra chargers and batteries?
15. vuyonc (Posts: 808; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)
I somehow don't mind that hoverboards don't exist yetbecause of this.
20. Slammer (Posts: 1498; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I remember in the 60's that a huge discovery in how carburetors could be made, would allow an automobile to get 160 miles on a gallon of gas. This never happened. The government couldn't allow oil companies to lose revenue on oil sales. Same with batteries. I have no doubt other discoveries have been made to extend battery life. The fortune500 companies control the bulk of topic decisions. My guess is that in short term, the battery manufacturers will find a way for the new discovery to mysteriously disappear. They simply can't approve an advancement that would hurt sales.
36. PhoneCritic (Posts: 509; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Completely Agree. This tech will face stiff opposition and frivolous government scrutiny due to lobbyist from the battery( Duracell, EverReady, Energizer etc), coal and oil consortium. Unless LG, Samsung, Google or Apple buys this tech outright.
21. Deadeye37 (Posts: 154; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)
Great. Now all the sands at the beaches are going to be taken to manufacture batteries. So much for swimming at the beach. /sarcasm
This development is really cool. Hopefully we see this get implemented soon.
26. DaMaster (Posts: 33; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
I thought they found a way to add silicone to batteries to make em last 9 times longer like 5 years ago and still haven't come out with the technology.
28. surethom (Posts: 522; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
Wow ANOTHER new battery technology, that's about the 20 new battery talked about in the last 3 years.
Plenty of talking but NO new battery tech in production on years.
33. genkidama20 (Posts: 52; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
... And we'd still complain about it... "My battery life is such a beach!"
42. skymitch89 (Posts: 1243; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
If they want to make one for the Note 3, I'll be more than happy to test it out for them. Currently, I am sitting at 1 day 6hrs 15min & 30sec on the regular battery with a 46% charge remaining; so I'm estimating that I'll have close to 1 day 13hrs on my phone when I get home and still have about 15% charge left. If I could get 3x that, then my estimate would be that I could get close to 5 days on a single charge.
49. zacsaturday (Posts: 172; Member since: 09 May 2014)
Hope third party battery makers (MUGEN BATTRIES) make updated batteries for popular flagships (galaxy note 3,etc.)
50. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
When scientists develop things like this, they should implement them immediately..because there have been many stories about new batteries, fast chargers, but they never seem to make it to the market.
52. zacman565 (Posts: 4; Member since: 10 Jul 2014)
Makes me happy to see that people are trying to improve this aspect. Batteries in general needed some work as far as energy capacity. KUDOS!!!
53. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Here's way to save your battery. first turn off your data. turn it on only when u need it. 2nd stop going on facebook 24/7. take a break
56. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10208; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I check Facebook and Snapchat a lot... I'll admit.
57. Astoni (Posts: 630; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Hmm... This is something that should be top priority to get into Phones If Its better than silicon anode. But hows the batterys longterm life cycle then?