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Samsung to supply 80% of iPhone and iPad processors by 2016
The Korea Times reports that Samsung and Apple - bitter rivals and excellent partners - have reached an agreement for application processor production for upcoming iPhone and iPad models. Samsung is said to once again become the leading supplier of processors for Apple, tasked with producing 80% of the total processor supply in 2016. The remainder will be handled by the trusty Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. 

As usual, Apple will keep designing its A-series processor, while Samsung and TSMC will play the manufacturing part. According to internal sources, Samsung's partnership with GlobalFoundries has enabled the company to "cut off capacity risk" and fulfill the large order from Apple. In addition, the partnership enabled Samsung to manufacture customized chips by employing 14-nanometer FinFET processing technology.  TSMC will rely on 16-nanometer FinFET technology. Samsung's production process is technically better in regards to efficiency and energy economy, but the end product should be of equal quality between the two.

In addition, Samsung is expected to secure more chip orders from industry heavyweights such as Qualcomm, NVIDIA, and Sony. Once again, the partnership with GlobalFoundries is at play here - an industry official explained that corporate clients were "reluctant" to enlist Sammy for chips other than memory modules, but the partnership will "allow Samsung to win more orders to fabricate customized chips". The company's logic chip arm expects to "bolster its profits" next year, which sounds reasonably reasonable. Reportedly, the deal is worth "billions of dollars".

source: The Korea Times via G For Games

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posted on 17 Nov 2014, 08:00 3

1. Finalflash (Posts: 2795; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


"Reasonably reasonable" eh, that sounds reasonable. Still, literally called this when all the Apple nuts were losing it in their pants when they heard Apple was going to TSMC. There is no way TSMC can manufacture at that capacity at a full node efficiently. Samsung was the next best choice and Global Foundries was the third. Global Foundries is the real winner here since their client base was somewhat limited but with a vast amount of production capacity available. Now that Samsung is partnered with them, they have a good lead in to the mobile chip market. Should lead to some pretty fast chips with their combined research and production.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 13:14 2

25. Sauce2 (banned) (Posts: 199; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)


This is great for Samsung though, because this is a deal worth billions.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 16:04 1

31. vincelongman (Posts: 4164; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Nvidia and AMD are probably also going to be big winners too
Since it says Samsung starts making Nvidia CPUs/GPUs
I'd assume GF would also starts making AMD's GPUs as well as their CPUs

Nvidia/AMD have been waiting all year for TSMC to make their GPUs with the 20 nm process, only for TSMC to scrap it and tell them to wait for 16 nm

This will be great for gamers
Especially for 4K gaming, and also for VR coming soon

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 08:05

2. tech2 (Posts: 3398; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Woah ! Go easy on those double quotes, man !

j/k

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 08:35 14

3. laughmi (banned) (Posts: 283; Member since: 28 Oct 2014)


Now you iChumps know who is the father.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 08:57 9

5. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


So, you consider the guy who makes your sandwich at Which Wich to be your daddy? You might want to seek professional help.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 09:40 5

7. MEeee (Posts: 348; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Most people that made sandwiches don't make their own bread, meat, dressing, etc. just like Apple with their iDevices.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 10:41

12. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2157; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Nobody is paying machine monitors and assembly line workers what a microarchitecture engineer makes for a reason. Even QC doesn't fab their own chips, and they are behind the curve.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 19:10

33. simpleas (Posts: 196; Member since: 30 Apr 2014)


Or you can go starve, up to you huehuehue

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 09:48 5

8. frederick333123 (Posts: 76; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)


you dont know anything.
they are just manufacturing the chips which are designed by apple and samsung cant never design a chip that is soo energy efficient as Apple chips.

in short Apple is making use of samsung's manufaturing plant more effectively than samsung itself.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 10:09 2

9. wilsong17 (unregistered)


Because you work at Samsung idiot... you think every one want a thin phone and sacrifice battery life no thanx

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 10:29 5

10. joey_sfb (Posts: 5433; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


frederick333123, your statement show how insecure an Apple fan could be.

The truth is its Samsung's 14-nanometer FinFET processing technology not Apples. Apple just buy parts and pass it to Foxconn to assemble them just like many China OEMs just that Apple has a much larger volume. When its come to manufacturing Apple is an outsider to the industries.

To Apple credit they did design a custom SOC using ARM license just like what Qualcomm did with their Snapdragon series.

Keep telling yourself that Apple is special and sprinkle fairy dust on every iPhone and iPad.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:10 2

16. frederick333123 (Posts: 76; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)


joey, actully you didn make any point. i dint say tht 14-nanometer FinFET processing technology is Apples tech... i said Apple design their chips so enery efficient.and
Apple is not using samsung's processor(like all you guys pretend)...bt they use Apple desinged chips manufactured by samsung

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 19:11 3

34. simpleas (Posts: 196; Member since: 30 Apr 2014)


lol, butt hurt. where would you be without your daddy.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:36 4

17. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)


How come Samsung made the Apple chips more powerful and efficient than the Samsung itself.

Apple designed the chips and manufactured by Samsung only.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:01 9

15. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


@frederick333123

Really? I can prove that a lie very easily. The Note 4 hs a Qud HD display, SnapDragon 805, a Quadcore /OCTACORE CPU dpending on region, 3GB of RAM and a 5.7" display and yet the battery still last longer bs the iPhone 6+.

Please explain how my Note 4, has double the CPU power, Double the GPU power, 2M more pixels, larger size 3 times the RAM yet my device still last longer on a single charge? Yet the iPhone has 1/2 of everything and doesn't last as long yet it is a one app at a time OS vs my full multi-tasking.

Look at the battery run down tests bro. Even with QUAD HD the Note 4 aced the iPhone 6+ in the battery run down tests where a video was played from 100% battery until the device turned off.

Get your head out your @$$ and look at the facts. The iPhone is not the best at anything anymore and hasn't been since the 4S. Sure it wins some benchmarks, but anyone who uses the device side by side as again we have seen in videos, even with the Note 4 pulling far more weight, it still matched and bested the iPhone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35lvIOA3F2U

I didn't agree with the browser stest because the tester didn't use the stock browser on the Android device when he did on the iPhone. SO that was totally unfair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glCtlMeZQCg

Again the web tests are unfair, because both devices are on the same Wifi and thus whichever starts to pull first will snatch bandwidth away from the other device.

Look here -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Our-iPhone-6-and-iPhone-6-Plus-battery-life-tests-are-done-both-trail-the-competition_id60920

Neither iPhone even could beat the older Galaxy S 5. The Note 4 has a 3220Mah Battery and it beat the GS5.

http://wccftech.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-battery-test/

See I have facts to back up what I say. Are you sure the iPhone has a better battery, because the facts show it doesn't.

Saying the iPhone CPU is more efficient? It runs one app at a time and the only apps that multitask are the baked in ones, not the ones you install. This compared to Samsung with does have full multi-tasking and more. Larger displays, higher resolutions, more cores, more RAM and more capability and it still aces the one trick pony. \

Wake up dude, this isn't 2007 anymore. Plus the Note 4 recharges to 100% in just over 90mins while the iPhone even though has a smaller battery still takes nearly 2 hours. WAKE UP MAN!!!!!

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:44 1

18. frederick333123 (Posts: 76; Member since: 15 Jun 2013)


your note 4 has double the processor and twice the ram still performs same as iPhone..so wats the use...???
display on note 4 is great betta than iPhone bt you need to zoom in min 200% to really knw the difference.

and on battery side note 4 has 3220Mah vs iPhone 2915Mah
n thts y your note 4 last long(big specs is not enough you need the software making use of that full power,in that case your phone wun even last for 2 hrs). i think you got my point

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 13:32 8

26. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Because its doing more. Again you aren't looking at the facts. Android uses Java, unlike the iPhoen whoich use C+ which has direct hardware access. Java is a VM. If you know what that is. Its doing 4 times the heavy lifting in the same or faster amount of time. That si what you aren't seeing.

Its not about hardware specs, its the fact as to what the device is doing. Full Multi-tasking vs none, pushing 2M more pixels on the display and more.

Again, if you don't understand all of that and take that into consideration, then you shouldn't even comment; because you have no idea what you are even talking about.

The point was, my device is pushing at least 4 times what the iPhone pushes and it still has far better battery-life by as much as 2hours and it shares to 100% nearly 30 mins faster.

You giuys keep bragging about the iPhone when you have nothing really to brag about. Every single iPhone feature has been on Android prior. Its not implemented better, its just different. Can different be better? YES! But in the case of the iPhone agan consider what I am getting,. I am getting more capability per clock because I have what is really a MORE EFFICIENT CPU using your words and more RAM and more of everything else. Again you aren't considering any of the facts. You just look at number which you don't even understand even after its explained and shown to you.

Java is more memory intensive vs C+, yet the phone performed just as good or better. Since the iPhone does less it should blow every frikkin phone over. It pushing less pixels, the apps have direct hardware access and more yet it barely keeps up with a phone release prior to it. The Nexus 5 still blows the iPhone 6/6+ away and its 3 years old now.

Try to actually understand what you are saying, if you did you woulnt say it. Apple chips aren't more efficient than anyone else because they don't do what others are doing so thus how can you compare them equally? YOU CAN'T

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 19:12

35. simpleas (Posts: 196; Member since: 30 Apr 2014)


performs about the same in speed, both very fast. but the phone is on a different league when it comes to display, battery life, camera, sd card, removable batteries, s-pen, true multitasking. Please, keep yapping more ibs. makes you look smarter. gtfoh

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 22:50 1

38. Adrian38 (Posts: 142; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)


The Note 4 has all that power and RAM because it actually NEEDS it, unlike the iPhone. The iPhone doesn't need a strong processor or lots of RAM because it doesn't do anything special or useful.

posted on 18 Nov 2014, 10:15

42. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


You're right, it does need it because it does more. The same reason why sports cars use Premium gas, so they run better because the engine works harder and thus need better gas for better performance.

The iPhone doesn't do nothing. The new one isn't a Pahlet. The point of a Phablet is to have tablet-like capability on a smartphone sized device. Just making a phone bigger? Any idiot can do that. What are you getting with that size.

Smsung with the Note series in the chassis houses the pen, and yet is still smaller than the iPhone 6+. It has a bigger battery and a bigger screen, and still manages to be smaller than the iPhone 6+. It has the same ports as far as charging and speakers and headphone, but also has a larger camera with a larger sensor. In fact the camera in the Note is physically nearly 3 times the physical size of the one in the iPhone 6+ and the device is still smaller.

Yet you guys rave about Apples design. Then how is it the iPhone has less hardware inside and it is BIGGER than the Note 4?

Yes my Note 4 needs the extra power. Its pushing 2M more pixels, yet the display uses less power than the one in both iPhone 6 devices. The Quadcore CPU uses less power than APple's dualcore CPU and its clocked nearly twice as fast.

My device has full multi-tasking, so yes it need more CPU power and RAM to pull that off, just like any other computer. After all, you do realize a smartphone is a mobile computer, right?

Would you try to run WIndows or OSX on 1GB of RAM? Sure you could, but how good would it really be running. Those OS's need 4GB of RAM to run smooth, shouldn't a smartphone that multi-tasks like a desktop computer be spec'd like one.

The iPhone was designed off a music player, the iPod Touch. They simply added cellular capabilities. Apple still thinks it and iPod even to it uses applications. But it doesn't function like a computer at all. Its more of a feature phone with a fancy styling.

As expensive as the iPhone is, when you plug it into a PC, you cant even use the device to store anything but music, videos and pictures. What about personal files? When I plug in my phone I have full access to the space not being used by the system. I can copy any file type I want. This capability doesn't require any fancy hardware. Why does Apple have it locked down? NO reason whatsoever. Mass Storage doesn't use any battery power at all. Even the Motorola Razr V3 has mass storage capability.

I don't care what phone you won. If you like he iPhone great, I like them too. But I need function over looks and that is why I switched

To make an iPhone do what the Note 4 does out the box, I would have to spend $500 in apps for the really good ones, on top of the iPhone 6+ 128GB costs of 999.99. I paid $100 for 128GB SD and I still have more storage than the iPhone 6+ 128GB.

posted on 18 Nov 2014, 09:59

41. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What, dude the battery size here doesn't make that much of a difference. Again, you aren't looking at the facts. Yes the iPhone has a smaller battery. But again, look at the specs. The iPhone has a dualcore CPU and a full hd displays, this versus a quadcore cpu and a quad hd display. The fact is bro, the Note is going for more.

Its not my fault Apple sacrificed longevity for looks. My phone is nearly as thin and still packs a nice battery. Again you are dismissing the facts. The battery is only maybe 30% bigger if that much, I didn't do the math. What I am trying to show you is the Note 4 has hardware that would take a much larger toll on the battery. Making the battery bigger doesn't solve the power issue. The power issue is solved by making the chips work together and using a lower amount f power.

Look at the facts bro. Even tho the Note 4 has a Quad HD display with 2M+ more pixels, because it AMOLED it uses less power than an LCD panel. Yet the Note for has a more accurate color display as it is rated at 6700Kelvins where 6500 is considered 100% accurate while the iPhone is at 7200 Kelvin.

The SoC. The SnapDragon is more efficient than the A8 simply because it has 4 cores and uses less power than the A8. Even the Exynos with its Octacore where only 4 cores are fired up at anyone times, uses even less power than the A8.

Apple can make their battery bigger if they wanted too. Explain how the heck the iPhoen 6+ is bigger than thw Note 4 yet houses a smaller battery. The iPhone battery is 50% the size of the phone inside. How is it Samsung can put in a largher camera, sdcard slot, sim card slot, fingerprint reader, larger speakers, charging port and the logic board and a largher display and yet make the device smaller than the iPhone?

Simple, the Note 4 is designed better, its nearly as light, nearly as thin, packs far more yet uses lets battery. Since a Dualcore CPU pulls less power than a Quad, or at least it should, the Note 4 should last 2.5 Hours longer with it using more power. The fact is bro, the iP{hone does less and yet cant even beat the Galaxy Note 3 in a battery rundown test . What the excuse there? The Note 3 only has a 3200Battery. That means the iPhone battery is only 20% smaller. Yet the Note 3 has similar specs. Also look at the fact the Samsung Exynos and the SnapDragon are all clocked to NEARLY DOUBLE THE GHZ speed.

You can not look at the facts all you want bro because you want tobe loyal. Being loyal to a brand is already stupid. But when you pay more and constantly get less and you keep defending them, it shows who really doesn't know.

With moderate use my Note 4 last 2.5 days in a single charge. My device loses on average about 30%-40% of its charge in an 8 hour work day.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:49 2

22. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


@techie

I can explain it.

You don't understand mobile SoC's. At all.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 14:07 5

27. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Really? Hmmm. Well let me see. The Quadcore SnapDragon does more per clock cycle vs the A8, since it does 4 times as much per cycle and uses less power. Even the Exynos uses less power per clock vs the A8. Those are measureable.

To confirm how effirnct a CPU is, you have to look at everything it needs to tote and what is the end result. Its YOU who don't understand an SoC.

Apple seems to always pull ahead when using single core. Not sure how, don't design CPU's, yet they get burned badly on multi-core tests. I take all tests with a grain of salt because they don't live up to hype when compared in real world usage.

Like the A8, the Exynos and SnapDragon all have something in common, they are designed to use a multi-core format, and yet use the same amount or even less power than older single core chips. Do I need to repeat that?

On top of using less power, since Samsung typically clocks their CPU high, it will do more faster so even if it pulls more power, it does it for less time. This has been proven in Intels chips that use Hyper-threading over just having quadcore.

I never said Apple's doesn't make an efficient CPU, I am saying that the others are equally if not more because they use far less power and less battery consumption. That's true efficiency..

I know Apple has found a way to design the bus in their chips to use shorter paths, that having nearly zero latency, I've seen the skeleton of their chips and how they place stuff.but if your chips aren't heavy lifting, it just gets you better numbers.

My Note 4 has a heavier OS, yet it boots faster. Not only do I get an efficient chipset, I get speed as well. I don't have to know every technical detail and neither do you.. After all you don't mke chips either. All you can do is read their claims. Since I cant understand all the tech stuff, I can see the results as equally as you can. We can see them I real world usage and on tests.

Side by side tests have show that Android phones do 4 times as much and take about the same amount of time an an iPhone which is 1/2 spec'd. Yes it is good that an iPhoen with less specs can keep up and even beat a phone with better specs, but there is a trade off. You still nd up paying more fpr less. While I pay less for more.

Now I purchase my Note 4 at retail for 699.99 from VZW. I added 128GB of storage for only $100 more. With taxes I paid roughly about $850, while the 128GB iPhone costs $999 retail or more.

So you keep talking about the SoC, while I actually have something to brag about. Having a better SoC that does less than my SoC isn't a bragging right. Its dumb. I don't need to know about an SoC to know that

posted on 18 Nov 2014, 05:18 1

40. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


TechieXP, you are on a killing spree... your technical explanation is more than enough to shup up any iboy, but they will not bcoz they will keep talking without knowing anything

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:56 1

23. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)


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posted on 17 Nov 2014, 16:03 3

30. VHMP01 (banned) (Posts: 93; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


Duh! Samsung makes money out of Apple's iPhones! Apple makes nothing out of Samsung's Galaxy line! In your little bubble; Apple sells the name 'Apple' basically. Name (& Logo) which by the way was copied from applerecords.com, all means Apple copies and markets, thats it!

posted on 18 Nov 2014, 12:07 1

43. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Look here new article -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Smartphones-with-quick-charge-fastest-to-recharge-from-0-to-100-from-the-Galaxy-to-the-iPhone_id62766/comments?post=1044665#post_1044665

Last years Galaxy Note 3 doesn't even have a quickcharger and has a 3200 MAH battery and it still last longer and charges faster than both iPhones.

The iPhone 6+ battery takes 2:27 to charge to 100% while the Note 3 takes almost 15minutes of lesser time and it has a larger battery. The Note 4 charges back to 100% in 95 minutes. With 50% at 30 minutes and after that its normal charging.

Just think man, if my battery is at 50% on the Note 4, I can quick charge it too 100% in just 30 mins.

The iPhone will take about an hour to get to just 50%. That is sad for a phones that costs MORE.

What exactly did Apple give you at an additional $100 of new cost this year? Nothing.

For the exact same price as last years model, I got a faster CPU, faster GPU, Quad HD display, more megapixels, faster charging improved applications and more and the price stayed the same. Apple added size and charged you $100 more.

You guys crossed the desert of tech stupidity an Apple was waiting with open arms and you gusy just fell in and allow for endless dictation and foolishness. HAH!

The Note 4 is the king. I don't care how many iPhones Apple sells, it doesn't make it the best.

McDonalds sells more hamburgers than any hamburger fast food chain and mom and pop joint combined, but that doesn't mean they make the best hamburger. Its actually garbage. But at least they aren't overpriced.

posted on 19 Nov 2014, 15:36

44. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Really? here I have another one for you. Please talk this one away.
The Samsung Galaxy S 5 has the SnapDragon 801, slightly better CPU vs the Note 3 which had the 800. Now the GS5 has a 2800Mah battery. Slightly smaller than the iPhone 6 Plus.

Yet it lasts nearly 8 hours on a single charge and the iPhone only last almost 7. Again, the GS5 has a Quad Core CPU, with a full HD display that is 5.1" vs 5.5. Yet it last longer with a smaller battery.

Please explain that one? Who really makes a more efficient CPU? Just remember, the display uses more power than any single component in the phone. The S5 is an older phone vs the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus.

Who is more efficient? I mean we can see the numbers. Right?
Using your argument that the Note 4 has a bigger battery that is why it last longer is true to some degree. So explain how a device with a smaller battery still beat the iPhone.

Yet 5 fools gave you a thumbs up? They must be dumb. I am not saying Apple doesn't make an efficient CPU. I am saying that the CPU isn't the only thing using the battery and you have to look at the whole picture of how all the components work together. After all they are all powered by the same battery.

Every Samsung has had higher clocks, bigger displays, more power CPU's and GPU and more and yet have pulled off better longevity than the iPhone.

Being good at something, doesn't mean you're good at everything. You know that. Right?

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 08:54 7

4. twens (Posts: 964; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I think the whole industry knows who the champ is when it comes to hardware. What's killing samsung is the bad reputation they have created with touchwiz which started from the s3-s5, note 1-note 3. Even though touchwiz isn't that bad like the industry and ifans are making it out to be people in the media and geeks have bought the perception which is now hurting the company.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 13:01 1

24. Supraman21 (Posts: 314; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)


It really is that bad tbh. My girlfriend just got an S5 and its laggy as hell. I thought my LG G3 was bad! What do you mean "Geeks have bought the perception"? Wouldn't the "Geeks" know about touchwiz and tech more than the average person? If the geeks and the average joes don't like touchwiz then its obviously crap.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 14:15 2

28. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


My wife had an S5 and now had the Note 4. Her S5 was not laggy. The fact is the TouchWiz based apps and features did show some delay, but a few milliseconds of time isn't lag. Its no different than my laptop whichhas a quadcore i7 and when I click on an icon even with a fast SSD, there is still a delay. Its not suppose to be instant. Its not instant on the iPhone either.

Again apps that have direct access to the hardware may perform better in some cases, but the iPhone does less because every apps cant directly access the hardware at the same time. Versus a VM where the apps don't directly access the hardware so thus its not confined to some artificial line.

Sure my Note 4 has a hiccup. But I rather have that then iOS apps that crash do to low RAM. I could care less about thre bad rep these iOS bloggers say. because the vast majority of devices buyers don't read this crap. So it has very little effect on the sales numbers.

What does effect them is people go and see the device and it isn't what they want. Or they buy what is pushed on them at the store. If the iPhone isn't available they push the next best thing which is a Samsung which in fact is the best thing, but they make more money pushing the iPhone.

I would never go back to ever paying more for less. EVER! The iPhone is less, I don't care how bias an ignorant everyone else is. And this depressing line of saying lag lag lag. Its all BS. It happens once in a while, unless you crowd your device with a tone of useless garbage. Any computer will get slow over time if you criowd it with garbage.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 09:23 1

6. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1615; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


I hope you youngsters now realize that MONEY rules, not false allegiances to a favorite phone maker. I don't know why this is news, Samsung has long been a major supplier for pc board components.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 10:39 1

11. Denco (Posts: 118; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


This might be one of the reasons it would be impossible for Samsung Electronics to fail like Nokia or such other tech companies.

The over 70 years old Korean giant is too multi-dimensional, highly diversified and deeply rooted to fail.

Its recent declining revenue or profits trend is only a passing phase.

Samsung can always recover through its entrenched multiple streams of income.

That's what differentiates the Korean behemoth from other rivals, including Apple.

If smartphone, tablet and PC markets should collapse today, only few players can bounce back.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 10:50

13. Loubielou (Posts: 506; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


This Why people can"t believe Samsungs attitude in the Mobile Market,How can Samsung Supply to Apple when its Apple that is Making Samsung Struggle to be More Succesful,Another Company would have Said No to Apple so they Struggle to get the Parts they need for the Phones,and then Samsung would become Succesful Producing better Products than Apple,Is this Samsungs hope of Apple not taking them to Court Again.i Bet it is

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:47 1

20. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


That's not how business works.

If they didn't supply Apple's SoC's, their chip fab would become even less profitable.

I don't know if you've noticed, but Samsung has been bleeding profits from all divisions this year.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 11:30 4

14. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8963; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


HAHA!!! So much for the fans saying Apple is gonna leave Samsung. What happened to TSMC? Can't yield enough?

It was a 60/40 spit on the 6/6+, so what changed that now Sammy is going to 80%?

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:44 1

19. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


You'd figure Samsung could learn to design a custom ARM SoC by now with all the chances they've had to copy Apple's A-series.

Sorry no. Exynos is stock ARM garbage just like Mediatek and every other discount SoC maker.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 12:47 3

21. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


This gives Samsung considerable power over Apple. Good...

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 15:46

29. theRunningPlanet (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Nov 2014)


This reminds me of when Apple started using Intel chips.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 18:36

32. roscuthiii (Posts: 2209; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Hmm... Something I've picked up on articles by Luis D. You can tell he's a Samsung hater. Posting this article probably caused so much grundle chafing.
It's "trusty TSMC", (even though they're the ones that can't meet production requirements) and Samsung's 14-nanometer FinFET technology is apparently "technically" better than TSMC's 16-nanometer FinFET yet still says they're equal quality.

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 19:14

36. simpleas (Posts: 196; Member since: 30 Apr 2014)


Samsung, just let apple fail, don't help them out jeez..

posted on 18 Nov 2014, 02:32 1

39. AlikMalix (Posts: 5238; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


You do realize that Apple would not fail, just hire more manufacturing plants - probably easier to hire one big one. Apple will be fine with out samsung, the only problem will be - many that want an iPhone will have to wait a long long time instead of only a month - the demand for iPhones forces apple to hire samsung again.

Now, Samsung on the other hand will fall without Apple. Their phones are just supplimental income vs what Apple is paying to manufacture their chips(I think)... I may be wrong, but knowing that Samsung is BLEEDING to death, this is a huge welcome for Samsung. I guess it's fortunate that Apple has someone to go to in order to fill the Global Demand for the iPhone. Samsung even pushes manufacturing of their own phones to someone else, and puts Apple's devices first because, in my opinion, it's a much better stream of income than their own devices...

posted on 17 Nov 2014, 20:23 1

37. danchoi704 (Posts: 38; Member since: 18 Apr 2008)


I hope Samsung inflate the price to get the million apple got from them.

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