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Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4 might get delayed due to Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 issues

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Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4 might get delayed due to Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 issues
It seems that the Snapdragon 810, Qualcomm's “flagship” chipset that will power some of the more-anticipated devices of the upcoming year, might reportedly get delayed due to a series of most unfortunate issues. As per certain rumors that are circulating in the air, the CPU on board the Snapdragon 810 chipset (the clock speeds of which got revealed earlier today) is experiencing overheating problems at certain voltage levels, which leads to under-performance.

But that's not the only problem that Qualcomm's 64-bit capable beast is reportedly faced against. Apart from the CPU, the Adreno 430 GPU unit is also said to be problematic due to an error in the drivers. And last, but not least, the application processor's RAM controller is allegedly causing a lot of headaches over at Qualcomm.

These issues might prove to be quite problematic for Qualcomm. It's even speculated that they might be the culprit for a production delay. This can potentially lead to a delay in the production of some of 2015's hottest and much-expected devices that will make use of the Snapdragon 810 – the Samsung Galaxy S6 and the LG G4, among others. Well, Samsung can still resort to its own Exynos chipsets, but LG is yet to release a phone with its own NUCLUN SoC, which is reportedly flawed

source: BusinessKorea via G4Games

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posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:38 8

1. FoneAddict (Posts: 259; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


Qualcomm sort this BS out quickly!

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 09:38 3

10. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


This has happened before & Qualcomm always responds quickly. They know how to handle this. They are a HUGE corporation who work swiftly to fix any issues that come up.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:02 6

13. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


True. Qualcomm is a powerhouse in the industry. They will not roll over and let the competition take advantage. Better that this gets caught now than when 810 phones arrive next spring.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 11:29 1

15. medicci37 (Posts: 1287; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


This is what happens when 1 company dominates.since they skipped innovation with the 801 which wasn't really a new processor just a new name Qualcomm should be ahead of schedule not behind

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 12:51 1

16. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I have more of an issue with them rebranding the S4 Pro as the 600. 800 and 801 are only a digit apart.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 16:11

23. medicci37 (Posts: 1287; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Lol yeah so I guess whatever comes after the 810 will still be the 810

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 18:59 2

28. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Snapdragon 811: But this one goes to 11.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:45

17. torr310 (Posts: 885; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Samsung is not necessary to delay if they use their own CPU.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:42

2. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Samsung might go with SD808 in S6 and Exynos 7. While LG since it releases its flagship few months after Samsung might hold off for SD810.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 09:48

11. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


For all we know, the 808 is suffering similar issues. I wonder if anyone will bother with the 808. It's probably a great chipset, but launching it alongside the 810 makes it look obsolete before it even arrives.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 16:50 1

25. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


That's a very bad solution. The GPU in 808 is adreno 418 which is lower than the 420 in sd 805. Also the CPU is cortex a53 based which will be slower than the krait in s805. They'd rather use the 805.

Next gen exynos will steam roll the s808 and that will cause buyers remorse.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:47 1

3. kamejoko (Posts: 211; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)


Current Exynos 7 (5433) work very fast and cooler than before. I think SS no need wait qualcomm S810.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:49 1

4. xtroid2k (Posts: 521; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)


HTC M9, this is your chance. Slap in an 805 SOC. screw 64bit

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:13 2

14. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


and wait for Samsung , Sony Lg to run rings around it once their 810's are ready ?

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:54

5. Micah007 (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


It's news like this that inches me closer everyday to saying screw it and just getting the 32bit Nexus 6

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 16:10

22. DillWeed (Posts: 149; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


It's hard to guess how fast 64 bit specific applications will leave you left out.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 08:57 3

6. aayupanday (Posts: 577; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


Ditch Qualcomm..
Go for Next Gen Intel - PowerVR Combo

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:29

19. Micah007 (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


I'll consider.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 16:12

24. DillWeed (Posts: 149; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


you selling? 14nm- yeah, I'd buy the s**t out of that s**t.
Also, gimme intel HD, I'd like to finish up playing Skyrim on a 6" dual boot phone with win 10 64 bit and android 6.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 09:06

7. zachki17 (Posts: 261; Member since: 14 Sep 2014)


Lg has made her oun (Odin .. House processor) its faster like Exynos7. (2.3 Quad core and 1.7 Quad core )

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 09:12 1

8. jayd3n (Posts: 33; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)


its NUCLUN they canceled the Odin name.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 10:01 1

12. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Only that Exynos 7 is A57/A53 and Odin (now NUCLUN) is A15/A7, making the Exynos7 the faster processor.
We are yet to see how the LG SoCs actually perform, but I don't expect a lot as it's the fisrt generation they are creating.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 09:36

9. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


uh huh..

Well, this will at least make me even more comfortable with sticking to my Note 3 and the already legendary Snapdragon 800 chip.. the last high end non-Apple ARM chip that wasn't compromised, that made perfect sense and was fully mature.

I'm waiting for its true successor with hopefully four next gen Qualcomm cores

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 13:47

18. renz4 (Posts: 318; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


isn't that Qualcomm already starts selling MDP device for SD810? if this is true then the problem might also happen to those device. maybe developer that owning the kit can make some explanation?

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 14:29 1

20. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


How can Qualcomm have trouble with OFF THE SHELF PARTS.

810 uses STOCK ARM cores. There is no development needed here.

More likely they want to delay to use up their massive inventory of 3 year old Krait processors.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 08:08

40. elitewolverine (Posts: 5188; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Using a core and getting that core on die is another story.

Considering the market for android is 60% cheap devices, 3yr old kraits will fly into 100-200. Not to mention they have already made their money back on those old chips.

posted on 04 Dec 2014, 15:30

21. alaw.14 (Posts: 227; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)


Sd810 is to powerful to put in a phone anyway. The gpu or adreno 430 has about 388 gflops of power. Thats more powerful then that beast tegra k1 gpu. Then they add cortex a57 and a53, even on 20nm its going to be a miracle for qualcomm to make sd810 a battery saver.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 00:12

30. renz4 (Posts: 318; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


no it is not. close but still behind tegra K1 gpu.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 03:36

32. alaw.14 (Posts: 227; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)


Actually the tegra k1 produces 364 gflops at 950 mhz. Adreno 430 is more efficient then tegra k1, adreno 430 produces 324 gflops at 500 mhz and 388 gflops at 600 mhz. Adreno 430 also has 288 ALUs.

posted on 05 Dec 2014, 06:13

37. renz4 (Posts: 318; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


that is just raw performance. there is also a matter how efficient the performance translated into real world application (which means how efficient their drivers are). look the GFXbench score (1080p offscreen test):

http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp

adreno 430 is to be expected around 30% faster than adreno 420. from the list the fastest adreno 420 device capable of outputting 19FPS. add 30% more performance from that number only yield around 24.7FPS. that is still behind 31FPS that nvidia shield capable of. of course qualcomm still not final with adreno 430 spec. now they know how tegra K1 perform they can try to beat that performance.

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