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Report: MediaTek working on crazy 10- or 12-core processors

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Report: MediaTek working on crazy 10- or 12-core processors
Qualcomm used to ridicule MediaTek's octa-core processors, claiming that what smartphones need are better, not more, cores. In spite of that, Qualcomm's 2014/2015 chipset line-up includes the likes of the mid-range Snapdragon 615 and the high-end Snapdragon 810, both of which feature eight cores. Whether because on the insistence of the marketing team or not, Qualcomm did follow into MediaTek's footsteps.

But if you thought that eight cores is as crazy as this race is going to get, then a new report, highlighted by Chinese MyDrivers, cites a supposed insider, who claims that the Taiwan-based chip maker might release 10- or 12-core processors. Not only that, but, apparently, if all goes according to plan, we could see those marvels of mobile technology before the year is out, which would be quite the achievement – these things usually take years of development, though MediaTek could have been working on them in secrecy.

Obviously, considering the fact that many apps are unable to take advantage of even four cores, let alone ten or twelve, it'll be interesting if MediaTek can actually justify yet another seemingly insane jump in core count. In the meantime, check out what Qualcomm thinks about MediaTek's octa-core chips in the video below.


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posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:01 2

1. kent-gaga (Posts: 501; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


still waiting for their processor which can shoot fullHD video at 240fps

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 07:33 2

19. RajRicardo (Posts: 394; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)


And 4K video for more than 5 min without frying the damn phone.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:06 7

2. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 903; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I don't care about octa core or above, the difference compared to a quad core SD800/801/805 in real time is negligible. Mediatek should focus more on GPU perfomance instead of adding more useless CPU cores.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:14

3. realjjj (Posts: 370; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)


You have no clue if such a chip even exists but you assume it's for phones. Could be for consoles, server, chromebooks and so on.
You have no idea what cores it would use ,couldbe 4xA57 and 8xA53 or any numbers of combinations on 16nm.
And then it's not just about one app and perf ,it's also about multitasking and power.The little cores in bigLITTLE are there mostly to save power not for perf, but everybody jumps to say that a single app ddoesn't use many cores when there are other factors at play here too.
If they do 12xA53 that's pretty pointless but we have no indication that's what they plan.
We'll have 16ff+ from TSMC soon enough and if there is no new core from ARM in time, people might have to just add more cores.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 04:17 2

12. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Mediaket never used the High end version (AFAIK) , they use Cortex A7 and now the A53 ..
Those 12 cores would be 12 A53 cores...

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 09:09

26. nokia12 (Posts: 484; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


they have used Cortex A17 in Mt6595 ,

it performs similar to SD 801/805 in CPU

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 07:35

20. RajRicardo (Posts: 394; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)


Absolutely right. Nvidia's latest chip uses A57 and A53 cores which outputs 1 Teraflops of compting power. That's some kickas* power.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:16

4. Max_Boost (Posts: 101; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


http://www.quickmeme.com/img/c5/c5845ea73d1f102e7a49b4994a4e9cbfdef0b93ceafdccf19686db52b213bd6a.jpg

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:19

5. EcoCare (Posts: 434; Member since: 30 Jul 2014)


So, what is it now? Core wars?

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:28 2

7. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 903; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


The core wars have already begun in 2013 when Samsung introduced the pseudo octa core E5410 that inspires Mediatek to make a pure octa core CPU. This war must be stopped because GPU does matter more than CPU, as long the CPU is a fast quad core.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 04:50 5

14. wargreymon (Posts: 712; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


Core wars begun with Nvidia Tegra 2.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:20

6. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 903; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Doing a heavy real time multitasking on a phone is not something convenient, as the small display can't show many running apps, so octa core CPU is a waste on a smartphone. Even on a tablet, a quad core SD800/801/805 are proved to be capable enough to handle so many apps running at once. Octa core and big.LITTLE are just a marketing strategy to attract buyers.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:42

8. DillWeed (Posts: 149; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)


these could be used for servers and specific tasks, such as sensors on a drone.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 08:34

24. aksa123 (Posts: 320; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)


Lol that's not why ppl buy phones. Those tasks are too specific for general consumers.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 03:44 2

9. cpaixao (Posts: 15; Member since: 07 Jan 2015)


Qualcom is not that good at all. MediaTek chips are able to be much faster than qualcom chipsets, as you see on following:

MediaTek MT6595 8-core
gsmarena.com/lenovo_vibe_x2-review-1181p5.php

sanpdragon 615 8-core (it eat dust)
gsmarena.com/oppo_r5-review-1183p5.php

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 05:23

15. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 903; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Qualcomm have made a stupid decision of adding 4 more useless A53 CPU in 615 instead of increasing GPU perfomance.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 05:28 2

16. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I don't think comparing the top of the line MediaTek chipset to one of the middle ground Snapdragons chips is a fair comparison...
Mediatek MT6595> 4 A17 + 4 A7
SD 615> 8 A53: 4x 1.7GHz plus 4x 1.0GHz cores

There is no point comparing both of them.
Mediatek MT6595 should be compared to SD801/805, not 615.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 05:43

17. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 903; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


But in GPU perfomance, the MT6595 isn't even comparable to SD800.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 08:15 1

23. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


That's my point, if you compare what you should the Mediatek SoCs are still lacking.
What you should not do is to take the best SoC of one company and compare it against a middle tear one of the other company.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 08:46

25. cpaixao (Posts: 15; Member since: 07 Jan 2015)


Okay, this is not the highest level soc from mediatek, in first place. Then you can now ask for whatever qualcom chipset so we can make a 'fair' comparison. Tell one devece which has the best qualcom chipset up to now, then we compare to mediatek chipsets.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 10:37

28. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


SD805, Galaxy Note 4 with Qualcomm version against any phone with Mediatek SoC.
And please use real benchmarks, not Antutu or Quadrant

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 10:42

30. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


And what's in our opinion the highest level soc for Mediatek?
Just to prove you wrong.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 09:15 1

27. nokia12 (Posts: 484; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


nope you are wrong here.. comparison should always be made for the same price..

sure qualcomm top end can beat mediatek top end but you'll be paying double the price for that ... and that's almost 200-300 $ more ( excluding companies that sell on cost to cost basis eg -xiaomi )

qualcmm sucks actually compared to mediatek..

for same price
mt6732 kicks ass of SD 210/410
mt6752 kicks ass of Sd 610/SD 615
Mt6795/6595 kicks ass of SD 615

price to performance ratio is the deciding factor always .. it doesn't matter whether its a company's high end product or a low end product .. what matters is how much value a user is getting and what is the competition offering,,

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 10:41

29. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I'm unaware of the prices so I won't discuss that.
But I seriously doubt the prices/pairing you use is right as then all the OEMs must be dumb as most of them choose Qualcomm over Mediatek. Which would not be the case if you were right.
Moreover, price/performance is not the only factor, there is alos performance/watt and there is one more:
What when there are no competitors because you have something the others can't provide? That's the case for the high end Qualcomm chips, as they have no real competitors because the LTE bands and the higher performance than any other SoC in Mediatek.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 11:25

31. nokia12 (Posts: 484; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)


prices are pretty much in approx range as what i stated .. even if the difference is not that big , still mediatek undercuts Snapdragon

OEMs use to go for Snapdragon blindly because mediatek used to be pretty closed source .. so it was difficult for manufacturers to bring update

but things have changed now .. oems like sony and htc are now going for Mediatek in order to keep their costs low as mediatek is becoming more open now and releasing source..

why do you think google used Mediatek instead of snapdragon as their partner for Android One project ? to give more performance to users at a cheaper price.. snapdragon at that time was giving dual core cortex A7 CPU at that price.. while mediatek was giving quad core Cortex A7

yes in high end its pretty much monopoly .. but i think Snapadragon will face heat this year from Intel .. if they delay SD810

posted on 13 Jan 2015, 03:33

37. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


It will fill the heat from Mediatek too, the MT6595 is quite a good competitor of the SD801, and the SD805 only provides an improved GPU.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 04:01 3

10. Shubham412302 (Posts: 431; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


''Obviously, considering the fact that many apps are unable to take advantage of even four cores, let alone ten or twelve"

who says only one app has to use all 12 cores

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 04:01 1

11. redmd (Posts: 1268; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Bring it on! Us consumers wins regardless of their argument.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 04:27 1

13. rd_nest (Posts: 1593; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Plain idiots. Not even worth debating.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 07:10 2

18. Donbenie (Posts: 208; Member since: 04 Aug 2013)


Sounds like a marketing gimmick to me..

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 07:37

21. balu25int (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 Dec 2014)


Cool, a dual core device used to give one day of battery backup. Then a quad core device with better battery gives less than a day of backup. I'm seriously scared to opt for octa core device. Now, a phone with 12 cores, crazy!

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 08:10

22. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Ooooooor they could try out a microarchitecture (does it cost too much?). Or move down to 20nm like everyone else. Beefing up the Cortex A53 some way might work.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 11:38

32. gaara6775 (Posts: 738; Member since: 20 May 2014)


Put more thoughts in improving battery life & how to charge it in less time. Fu*k this core. Don't need this as$holes.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 12:39

33. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


No matter what MediaTek does, Qualcomm's processors will always beat it out...

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 13:12

34. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Who cares! Both are junk processor makers from here on out.

Stock ARM designs are coming out of ALL Android chip makers next year. Zero CUSTOM designs. Qualcomm is the biggest failure of all by not being able to produce another Custom ARM Core in over 3 years.

Quad core already caused excess heat and fast throttling in all performance models. Apple created a powerful dual-core (Again) that performs better, and NEVER throttles or clocks down from excess heat.

big.Little doesn't work folks. Its a stop-gap for dumb chip makers who have the WRONG PHILOSOPHY about how mobile processing works.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 16:10

35. guest (Posts: 338; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


Wait until 14nm Broxton comes out. Zenphone 2 already proves Intel is starting to change the game. Snapdragon 805 performance in a $200 phone with a 5.5" 300+ PPI display and an option to bump up to 4 go of ram on last gen 22nm. Mediatek and Qualcomm are going to have a hard time competing on older fab processes once Broxton rolls out.

posted on 12 Jan 2015, 16:51

36. Drsarcastic (Posts: 131; Member since: 23 Jul 2014)


The AMD approach. This will crash and burn.

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