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HTC One M9 powered by the 64-bit Snapdragon 810, produces overheating warning on AnTuTu

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HTC One M9 powered by the 64-bit Snapdragon 810, produces overheating warning on AnTuTu
Remember last year when everyone panicked for a few days when there was talk about the Snapdragon 810 chipset overheating? Many still believe that this was the reason for Samsung's decision to pack its new flagship model with the home grown Exynos 7420 SoC. Last month, these overheating issues were rumored to have been permanently overcome. Meanwhile, HTC, Xiaomi and LG have continued to use the Snapdragon 810 as the SoC that powers some of their premium models.

On Sunday, HTC introduced its latest flagship phone, the HTC One M9. Neither HTC, Xiaomi, nor LG had any complaints about the Snapdragon 810 with LG going as far as saying it was one of the least overheating chips it had ever worked with. LG's vice president of mobile, Woo Ram-chan, couldn't believe the reports about the overheating, especially after noting that the Snapdragon 810 powered LG G Flex 2 is one of the coolest running smartphones now available.

What brings all of this up again is a trip that the HTC One M9 took to the AnTuTu benchmark site. On the floor of MWC in Barcelona, someone from a Romanian website decided to see how HTC's new flagship would score. Since the HTC One (M8) constantly scored in the 42,000-43,000 range, it was expected that the sequel would do well. Instead of a score, a message popped up that said "The device temperature is too high. Please test again after cooling the device. Continue testing may cause the system to restart or shut down."

This sounds like it could have just been a random incident, especially since we haven't heard about any widespread problems from LG G Flex 2 buyers. Still, it does rekindle the fears that the chip has a tendency to run hot.

HTC One M9 packing the Snapdragon 810, is overheating according to AnTuTu

HTC One M9 packing the Snapdragon 810, is overheating according to AnTuTu


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source: Mobilissimo.ro via AndroidHeadlines

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posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:43 22

1. gueAHOK (Posts: 156; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


the good news here is M9 casing were metal, we just need need a phone casing with fan to cool down the phone.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:27 2

32. Kishin (Posts: 704; Member since: 30 May 2013)


Or they could delay production and find a solution, just a thought.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:29 8

34. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


best thing they can do at this point.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 00:53 4

88. neela_akaash (Posts: 1181; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)


Samsung was the one who made Snapdragon popular. And now they are the one who's gonna make Snapdragon unpopular because Chinese are offering the same soc at half the cost.

The best marketing strategy to compete Chinese. Now people gonna talk that Chinese premium phones use crap Snapdragon. Just like they talk about mediatek some times ago.

posted on 07 Mar 2015, 04:16

132. b3rvirus (Posts: 1; Member since: 07 Mar 2015)


And i believe its not only 810 that suffers this problem, its the ENTIRE GENERATION of snapdragon.

I've used a xiaomi redmi 1s (1.6ghz cortex a-7 sd400) and it does overheat when i used it for abit long time like browsing while charging the phone. When the phone temperature reach 46 degree C, the whole system is slowing down that i can only barely use the phone. They do release a fix, and the fix is even worse: throttling the cpu down before the phone gets hot to prevent overheat.

For now, krait is the best if we should choose snapdragon powered phone. Maybe the low end phone with clock under 1.2ghz will do well because they are eats lower voltage. But I dont believe in qualcomm anymore

posted on 07 Mar 2015, 04:59

133. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


yeah my htc one m8 heats up and throttles sometimes but only when i play intense 3d games while its charging.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:50 1

49. gueAHOK (Posts: 156; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


Why?
They already have the BEST solution.... reduce the speed when it's hot.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:59

52. Sharky (Posts: 237; Member since: 24 Jun 2008)


I would hope so. Honestly wouldn't mind that. I don't really game much on my phones and that is one of the main things that overheats phones. But I have to wonder how it does when the screen is on for a while, like while browsing or watching movies. My Nexus 4 heats up quite a bit and it seems like LG phones have had a lot of cases of overheating. I just hope that this issues isn't really all that widespread because that would take the M9 right off my list of phones that I'm considering for an upgrade.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 22:18 10

63. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


because ppl want the best. and if they reduce its speed it will be no better than a phone with an 805 in it

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 22:25 1

65. Kishin (Posts: 704; Member since: 30 May 2013)


That be bad because regular phone get hot but this would be worse.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 01:48 1

102. Cicero (Posts: 870; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


Then you will have a mid range cpu/gpu. Why to do not have a MT soc instead? And for a better price.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 00:42

83. brunelian92 (Posts: 79; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)


I think the environment wouldn't help.if they display the phones like they would do in a shop with the screend constantly on and constantly charging then I could see how overheating would be an issue.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 01:16

92. shaineql (Posts: 355; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Even if they were to suddenly 'fix' the obvious issue , i would never trust an overnight fix. Going with GS6 this time.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 05:19 1

114. TechNerd (Posts: 66; Member since: 03 May 2014)


Lower the clock/voltage of the chip in software, or switch to mediatek.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 14:49

129. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


The good news here is samsung went with what theyvhad seen with no chances taken

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:43 31

2. JMartin22 (Posts: 1969; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


"That's right guys, these Snapdragon devices don't overheat at all. This is all Samsung marketing bullcrap to sell Exynos" - Troll team/buggy CM lovers

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:58 22

8. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Well looks like the M9 is off my list for phones to own this year. S6 Edge it may be since the flagship (once again) lands on my birthday week. Early birthday gift to me!

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 02:14 1

104. Settings (Posts: 1591; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


And yes you believed that M9 really has overheating problems, SD810 per se. Not on everything on the internet is true especially here on Phonearena.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 04:56 2

113. JMartin22 (Posts: 1969; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


I guess more tech websites with more hands on access to this information are wrong and you're right, because that's what you want to feel in your twisted illogical thought process. The SD 810 is just a hyped SoC from months back that turned out to be actual garbage in the end. Better luck with the 820 though.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 07:25

115. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


The sd810 is only upto 5433 standing and if Samsung removed it's limits it put in the cpu to stop it fro. Making the 805 look crap that it put In the usa crap note4 then it will have killed the 810 doa with easy

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:09 26

18. cheetah2k (Posts: 1576; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Forget the Sony Z4, HTC M9, LG G4 this year folks.. They will all suffer the same issues unless totally CPU speed throttled....

Samsung made the "right decision for consumers" to abandon the 810 for the Exynos.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:36 15

40. AndreaWijayanti (Posts: 69; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


Yup Samsung made the right decision!!

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 22:09

57. fuhrer (Posts: 39; Member since: 29 Apr 2013)


LMFAO....avatar of slave bantet

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:37 7

42. maherk (Posts: 3724; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Oh don't you worry, they are conspiracy worshippers and they will go further with their stupidity and claim that even this article is sponsored by Samsung.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:47 2

3. Ericzhf (Posts: 17; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)


OOPS!

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:09 5

19. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


"This sounds like it could have just been a random incident, especially since we haven't heard about any widespread problems from LG G Flex 2 buyers. "

Actually LG uses a heavy throtlling mechanism that slow down the performance to reduce overheating, leading to the lower benchmark performance.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:35 1

38. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


From another article in PhoneArena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-secret-of-Snapdragon-810-keeping-cool-50-shades-of-thermal-throttling-on-the-G-Flex-2_id66053

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:48 2

4. theguy2345 (Posts: 1216; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Great. Just gives me another reason to skip this gen of phones. What a screw up QUALCOMM. This is going to end up being a really major issue, mark my words.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:51 22

5. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 2054; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)


exynos is a problem solver...

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 02:23 2

107. dimas (Posts: 2124; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


"The last Exynos was a disaster which quite ironically overheated badly. Samsung botched their test suite on that part badly leading to thermal mis-characterization on common workloads. Users saw this as overheating and the problem was bad enough for Samsung to abandon the SoC in most markets"

This guy's article is long but quite a good read if you've got time. The article is informative so forget reading it if you're a fanboy with clouded brain.

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 04:42 3

112. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1522; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


After reading the article I'm not quite conviced, I never take semmiaccurate very seriously. And there is a reason for that, in the same article you mention they have this statement:
"we know how development works, we actually understand what early silicon is, how normal bugs are worked through, and how devices are made. In short we aren’t rank amateurs, aren’t idiots, know how the system works, and don’t have an axe to grind. We reported the early silicon and dev boards as just that, normal early hardware, we didn’t even mention the heatsink size."

And now read this article from their site (from Charlie too):
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/03/05/nvidias-tegra-k1-draws-shocking-number-watts/

That's only to show you how false and hypocrital Charlie Demerjian can be!

Again: don't take him too seriously, he is a VERY good technician, but his articles are always full of anger and truth filtered with personal preferences.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:55 1

6. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


well i hope sony doesnt use the 810 they should use exynos from Samsung instead. if they want to succeed with the z4 the 810 is not the way to go

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:02 3

10. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


LOL... No way is Samsung going to share this. What would be the incentive?

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:03 7

12. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)


More money and marketshare for them? Did you stop and think about what you wrote before clicking post comment?

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:04 4

13. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


They'll make more money by selling phones, not SoC.

Samsung has an enormous advantage with the Exynos 7420, because the SD 810 is problematic. Selling their 7420 to other OEMs would take off one large reason for buying the S6.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:07 11

15. gueAHOK (Posts: 156; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


Samsung is NOT apple.
Samsung is NOT as greedy as apple.
Samsung DID sell their SOC to other OEM.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:11 3

22. cheetah2k (Posts: 1576; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Meizu uses Samsung SOC - and also make great phones (MX4).

The Qualcomm 805/810 is the failure of 2015...

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 23:23 1

72. miket1737 (Posts: 2541; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)


Except Samsung 100% will not sell their absolute main advantage and prize in that being the Exynos 7420 at a advantageous 14nm node over its competitors right now, they would defitnetly not meet demand for other OEM's too at this time espcially on a cutting edge 14nm node that is going all torwards Samsung, and also Apple for it's A9 chips at the end of this year, taking up ton of their capacity as well , it just isnt gonna happen in the 7420

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 03:44

109. tedkord (Posts: 11623; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes, they will, because Samsung Semiconductor is a separate division from Samsung Mobile.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:08 7

16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)


OR you know, sell their SoC and make money on the side. Last time I checked, they sold their Exynos 5433 and didn't lose marketshare.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:10 1

21. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


They sold it to obscure Chinese OEMs that aren't serious competitors.

If Samsung wanted to sell the 7420 to their rivals, ALL the LG, htc and SONY flagships this year would use the 7420.

Samsung is keeping this chip exclusive until at least 6 months after the S6 releases.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 01:31

98. gueAHOK (Posts: 156; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


Really?
That "obscure chinese OEM" were outsold Blackberry by 3 times. and have more profit & money than blackberry.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:25 3

29. Freecableguy (Posts: 42; Member since: 21 Jul 2014)


The MX4 Pro is based on Exynos 5430. Note 4 is the only phone that makes use of Exynos 5433.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:13 1

23. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


they shared the 5433 so they'll share 7420 as well plus the z4 is coming out latter this year by that time the s6 would have reached its max sales point anyway. and it would just be more money in samsung's pocket and thats what its all about right more money.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:21 1

25. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


The 810 is failing and who's to say samsung wouldn't sell some 7420 chips to htc,sony,lg,moto, or microsoft if they approached them about buying some.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:25 2

30. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


I'm pretty sure they have approached Samsung, but have been turned down.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:25

28. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


They shared the Exynos 5433 because it wasn't much different from the SnapDragon 805 in terms of power, but the SD 805 had the integrated modem advantage, so Samsung HAD to sell the 5433 to fill capacity of their fabs.

This time, there is just no reason to sell the 7420 to other OEMs. Samsung has a clear advantage this time with its own SoC, and all the other OEMs don't. This will kill sales of their devices and drive up sales of the S6 and S6 Edge, fulfilling capacity for their fabs and bringing in higher profits.

The only time Samsung shares their component technology with competitors is if Samsung has a close competitor in the market like SK Hynix for the memory market. Samsung has to share their memory tech with Apple and others, else they would buy it from Hynix, giving them an edge in investing in new fabrication processes to advance memory tech. I can assure you that once Samsung has complete dominance over SK Hynix in memory technology, they'll kick out everyone else from using their memory technology.

What Samsung is doing is like what intel did with the CPU market. Just times that by a hundred. Samsung wants to do what intel did, except in EVERY single electronic component.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:28

33. Freecableguy (Posts: 42; Member since: 21 Jul 2014)


They did not share Exynos 5433 (dont confuse with 5430) and Snapdragon 805 doesn't come with integrated modem (unlike S801).

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:31

35. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


true my bad bro but i cant fix it now lol

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:48

48. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


the 5430 got great benchmarks tho better than the 805, A8 and Kirin 920(also better than A8,805) geekbench

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 22:08

56. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)


Yes, but it lacked a proper modem that was compatible with US lte bands. Qualcomm was the only one who was able to provide an all-in-one solution, so the OEMs all used SnapDragon.

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 22:13

59. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


true true

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:36

39. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


i honestly think they would benefit from selling 7420 and it wouldnt hurt the gs6/edge at all or at least not a lot anyway. the money they make would be well worth it. but yeah if they have this full dominance plan you speak of then they better not sell.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 07:39

116. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Samsung will offer a upgraded 5433 like 7415 that easy kills the 810, but does not make it close to 14nm tech, I be think g it will be what the spec was going to be for the 5433 to samsung limited it due to snapdragon gave then a very cheap deal on the 805 soc

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 23:41

74. XperiaShubhi (Posts: 12; Member since: 01 Feb 2014)


maybe sony can use tegra x1????

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 07:42

117. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


It can not be used in a phone

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:56 14

7. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


The issue was true then

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 20:58 1

9. gueAHOK (Posts: 156; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)


Is this the reason Sony took a little longer for the Z4?

posted on 03 Mar 2015, 21:02 4

11. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)


No, they're taking longer because they quit the 6 month flagship cycle.

posted on 04 Mar 2015, 00:19

80. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Yeah you know the answer, right?

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