Despite issues, Qualcomm will ship the Snapdragon 810 to Xiaomi and LG on time

Despite issues, Qualcomm will ship the Snapdragon 810 to Xiaomi and LG on time
Despite problems affecting the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810, there is speculation that the chip is currently in mass production. This is based on a pair of handsets announced by LG and Xiaomi that will each feature the Snapdragon 810 under the hood. The LG G Flex 2 and the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro will both be released before the end of this month. 

The 64-bit octa-core Snapdragon 810 is based on the big.LITTLE architecture, something new for Qualcomm. The chip will have two sets of quad- core CPUs but only one is in use at a time. One set is used for heavy duty tasks, while the other is employed for lightweight actions. The Snapdragon 810 is Qualcomm's first chip using this architecture. Meanwhile, Samsung's big.LITTLE Exynos chip already has experience in software integration. In addition, Samsung's application processors are expected to integrate with baseband chips this year. In order to stay ahead of the competition, Qualcomm is pairing the Snapdragon 810 with a baseband chip that supports Cat. 9. The latter allows for peak data speeds of 450Mbps.

Worries about overheating will reportedly lead Samsung to use its own 14nm Exynos chip for 90% of the initial batch of Samsung Galaxy S6 units produced. Snapdragon 810 powered models will account for 10%. As Qualcomm fixes the overheating issue, Samsung will adjust its production so that more units featuring the Snapdragon 810 will be released.

source: DigiTimes

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G Flex 2
  • Display 5.5" 1080 x 1920 pixels
  • Camera 13 MP / 2.1 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 810, Octa-core, 2000 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3000 mAh(18h 3G talk time)
Mi Note Pro
  • Display 5.7" 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • Camera 13 MP / 4 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 810, Octa-core, 2000 MHz
  • Storage 64 GB
  • Battery 3000 mAh



1. tiara6918

Posts: 2263; Member since: Apr 26, 2012

Is the g flex 2 and the mi note pro affected by the overheating issue?

2. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

Tests and reviews will tell us.


Posts: 182; Member since: Jun 15, 2014

If they come out on time possibly, but most of the issues will remain Qualcomm issues. In other words, Qualcomm will most likely be binning a lot of these chips and have very low batch yields of usable processors. So look for some heavy losses by Qualcomm and I have heard reports of actually scrapping the process and starting over. It's all conjecture now. But LG has a solid reputation and deservedly so. I doubt they would sell phones afflicted with this issue as they would lose marketshare quickly.

38. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

Anandtech have their hands on with g flex 2 and they did mention about thermal throttling issue preventing them from running quick benchmark test on the unit

3. realjjj

Posts: 375; Member since: Jan 28, 2014

Shipping on time doesn't mean they are shipping what they intended to. 2GHz is very unlikely to be the planned frequesncy since it doesn't bring enough gains. And in early benchmarks the RAM performance is poorer than on 801 and 805. All in all the CPU perf is similar to Exynos 5433, at least in whatever has leaked so far.On the GPU side don't realy know yet.

5. TyrionLannister unregistered

Anandtech posted lags and heating in the flex2 while hands on at CES. All the rumours are true I guess. I'd hold on on buying a SD 810 phone.


Posts: 182; Member since: Jun 15, 2014

It was obvious that LG just wanted to get some press coverage for the LG G FLEX 2. Nobody in their right mind ever expected the phone to be released any time soon. Now LG will come off looking a bit foolish IF the Qualcomm overheating issue is for real. LG does have it's own processor now (As of 10/2014) the NUCLUN. If push comes to shove LG can use that one but I doubt the situation will come to that.

8. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

The impression I got after LG announced the new flex from people was that they totally expected it all to be good if an OEM was going use it. Only a few of us at the time knew, it was a smoke show. Seems only a few more have come to realize it since. Nuclun from I've gathered is not ready, an won't be soon enough nor powerful enough to replace the 810. This is going to be a weird year after lead OEM of soc drops the ball on flagship soc. It'll be the year of the low cost underdog IMO.


Posts: 182; Member since: Jun 15, 2014

Yeah, NUCLUN is based on ARM from 2012, so it won't be that competitive. But if I were LG and it was that or nothing, I would chuck in those NUCLUNs and spin it like there was no tomorrow.

7. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Might be released on time alright but we know what that implies. Its going to throttle an never pull the numbers they have quoted. Anyone remember the P2? It was pushed out door when it was done being made too.

9. ninawka7

Posts: 1; Member since: Jan 16, 2015

It was said multiple times in several articles that the G Flex 2 wasn't running final software, which was stated to have been the possible cause for lag on the phone! We wont know for sure until it's reviewed.

10. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Seem odd to you?

13. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Nope. Its called a demo unit for a reason, right?

15. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

If you believe that is the main or sole reason in this particular case, by all means go right ahead.

25. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

The beta lollipop upgrade for G3 lagged quite a bit, but the final one was pretty much lag free.

11. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1841; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

Does the Exynos have the proper radio bands to work in the United States? Why hasn't Samsung used theirs from the jump in the U.S?

21. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

easy to now samsung costs will have been more to add there own cpu and modem but nit any longer

12. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

Interested to know how the upcoming Exynos 7 perform And what processor will be used in the Xperia Z4

14. .KRATOS.

Posts: 442; Member since: Mar 15, 2013

How do they know bout overheating b4 testing it properly in an original handset

29. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

because they get chips months ahead of time, usually 6 months before a press announcment. This chip was probably in design stages since 13

16. EC112987

Posts: 1216; Member since: Nov 10, 2014

I do want the best next thing but at what cost? Snap 805 is a great! I rather a perfectly functioning anything then something that might cause me any issues down the road. We as consumers need more patience.

17. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1359; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

If you recall a few years back Nivida Beat Qualcomm to the punch by introducing the first dual core SoC. The Motorola Atrix and Xoom Featured this Soc. Soon all Manufactures were using Nivida because Qualcomm got lazy and instead of pushing tech forward kept offering the same single core processors just clocked at higher frequencies. Nivida stole t Qualcomm's thunder. This situation force Qualcomm to get off its laurels and claw it way to the top again. It dual core SoC(s) began to outperform Nvidia's SoC's. Once on top again Qualcomm got lazy and Apple beat them to the punch with a 64bit SoC while all they could offer was 32 Bit SoC(s) with more cores and higher Frequency. Here we are again where this time Samsung will most likely steal Qualcomm's thunder if they don't address this over heating issue quickly. All other OEMs looking for 64 bit SoC(s) may turn to Samsung until Qualcomm gets off it lazy laurels again and claw it's way back to the top. If not then guess who becomes the biggest provider( Manufacture) of parts for smart devices. You guest it Samsung.

19. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

I would say they turn to Intel. Samsung may face the same issues as this is there first generation FinFET processor on a new processor. A node shrink, in this case half a node shrink, is hard enough throw in 3-D design at the same time? I will be impressed if nothing goes wrong.

20. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

Yeah switching to Intel is a perfect choice!! All they need is supporting LPDDR4 RAM and increasing the GPU cores Intel has been the boss of PCs processors and I have high hopes that they will rule the mobile SoC world shortly

39. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

Not that I hate Intel soc but I do hope they don't get to rule mobile. They already dominate PC and we see how much little improvement Intel bring to their CPU because of lack of competition from AMD.

22. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

samsung had this type of problem years back and sorted some time back, they have no problems its all linked to the 8 core setup

33. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

You mean Intel solved it and they reverse engineered it just like Taiwan Semi. They have never designed a 3-D chip before so I don't know what you mean by they have encountered this kind of problem before and were able to solve it. This is not the same as designing on planar for years and running into a hiccup this is a whole new way of designing and mfg.


Posts: 182; Member since: Jun 15, 2014

Intel mobile actually profits actually shrunk by 85 percent in 2014 so I don't know. The company is quite rich and could continue to basically give away their Atom ZX5XXX line in order to garner some action, but I doubt it. Could be. I don't think there is anything about the new Exynos 7 processors that Samsung are not aware of. But I do think that it's limitations are one reason that people might be surprised about when the S6 comes to light. I think it is limited to 3gb Ram and a 16mpxl camera. So there will be a lot of grumbling about that and which is why Samsung are so heavily pruning Touchwiz. And also why Samsung are promising the Snapdragon 810 later on the year. Not sure.

34. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

A good portion of their losses is actually R&D that had to be done anyways. They are literally buying their way into the market with tablets. Now they have a reasonable base for developers to need to also code for their processors. It's only a matter of time before that happens in phones as well. Their 22nm moorefield in the Zenphone 2 already proves they can deliver a competitive chip at a really cheap price $200 for about the same specs as an iPhone 6 plus? That is quite the achievement. Imagine what is going to happen when they release their 14 nm chip and beyond. They control everything from the top down not like apple or Qualcomm where they have to get someone else to make their chips. I would say Intel is a generation behind but catching up real fast. Any missteps by Qualcomm and it is over and right now it looks like the 810 is having issues.


Posts: 182; Member since: Jun 15, 2014

ZDNET reported that 4 billion of their losses are due in large part to "contra revenue". In other words they are basically giving away their processors. So yes, Asus Zenphone 2 is cheap, but basically because they are being sold for FAR less than cost.

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