Finally! Galaxy Note 4's Super AMOLED screen to have super-accurate colors
1. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Nokia 808 still rocking in Contrast ratio.......!!! can't beat
24. maccess (Posts: 742; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
But we are talking about color accuracy here.. You sounds so insecure..
51. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
But I'm talking about contrast ratio.... Its a off topic.
77. iushnt (Posts: 1484; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
but still u sound really insecure..contrast ratio of any AMOLED are infinity
113. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3702; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Thank you PA for reposting the article.
119. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Yes Ray, thank you because I missed it the first time but the heading states, "This story was initially published on September 6. We're now republishing it (with no editions), just in case someone missed it."
DON'T YOU MEAN 'with no revisions'??? lol ...... but we still have love for you.
52. Python212 (Posts: 363; Member since: 13 Aug 2014)
Who do you think made those panels? And ClearBlack is just Nokia's name for an antiglare filter applied to the screen. It basically adds a reflection blocking polarizer layer between the touch layer and the display panel. It blocks incoming light reflections and so perform better under direct sunlight. ClearBlack display is not the same as a SAMOLED display, which is an AMOLED with touch panel built in. ClearBlack display can be added to an AMOLED display or an LCD display. SAMOLED panel is more premium than what Samsung has sold to Nokia & other companies. They've kept the best for themselves.
60. Settings (Posts: 1448; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
So is Retina, Super AMOLED, Bravia and Triluminos. Everything is just marketing ploys.
Its 2014, every device has great performing screens. Their differences is small and marginal. Yeah so when a device is advertised mainly on screens, its a boring device.
63. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
The screen on the 5S, M8 and S5 are definitely different and can be distinguished between one another, especially the screen on the S5.
65. Python212 (Posts: 363; Member since: 13 Aug 2014)
I already wrote SAMOLED is just an AMOLED with touch panel built in. When you're using a smartphone, most of the time you operate it with its touch screen panel. More people want bigger screens nowadays and it could be a huge selling point like the Note series. So screens are a big deal. I currently rock a M8 but I will switch to the Note 4 or Note Edge and one of the biggest factor for that is.......yes, you guessed it right, the screen. Even now I'm very jealous of GS5's screen and it sure does look much more awesome than my M8's screen.
69. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
After using both, I can firmly assure you the S5 blows the M8's screen out of the water, especially in outdoor visibility and the lowest brightness setting.
75. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3103; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
lol I commend you for your effort to try to keep Nokia relevant.
All of the complaints anyone could ever have about Samsung's Super AMOLED display are gone.
500 nits of brightness and accurate colors. My god, I cannot wait for this beast.
107. pwnarena (Posts: 1129; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
you must mean sunlight legibility because all AMOLEDS have the same x/0 contrast ratio. it's "infinity"
110. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
The biggest point for me to choose note 4 is Super Amoled display + S-pen and multi tasking features
111. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
For me, it will be the camera - OIS is the missing piece between the '3 and the '4. I know there are other major differences, but for me, the biggest omission on the '3 was no OIS.
Now I just have to wait for VZW to release their edition of the '4. Probably last to the party…. :-(
2. SeanPlunk (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Sep 2013)
The latest couple generations of AMOLED screens have really made the leap. When you take into account viewing angles, blacks, brightness and color accuracy it seems that they've finally caught up to and passed LCD's.
46. SeanPlunk (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Sep 2013)
LOL, at 500+ PPI there is no way you can tell. I'm sensitive to pentile and can barely notice it on my Note 3. Pentile matrix just doesn't matter at that pixel density.
Having said that, I would still prefer RGB or S-Stripe, but pentile isn't a deal breaker anymore.
56. irfanil (Posts: 31; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
So you're preferring to have QHD to hide pentile artifacts? Leaving the device to use more processor power just to show more pixels (with less sub pixels) on the screen?
71. SeanPlunk (Posts: 16; Member since: 06 Sep 2013)
If you're asking if I'd rather have a pentile QHD AMOLED or an RGB FHD AMOLED I don't know, I've never given it much thought.
I'd rather have the QHD panel on the Galaxy Note 4 than anything else on the market though.
47. GTRagnarok (Posts: 24; Member since: 22 Aug 2014)
Next you're going to tell me that you can see the individual cells of your body, right? Literally no one who have used the Note 4 have said they can see the pentile matrix.
50. Finalflash (Posts: 2725; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
He's JakeLee son, he sees more than anyone, and even though what he sees is usually wrong, he has no remorse for telling everyone about it and then being smacked down for saying it.
61. rockers123 (Posts: 132; Member since: 08 Sep 2013)
I think you're using your phone nano meters away from your eyeball
84. tedkord (Posts: 9915; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And that "pentile" will still be sharper than the new iPhone screen at full RGB, just as the Note 3 and S5 were with the iPhone 5s.
100. gigaraga (Posts: 1454; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
#43 Oh hello there iSH33P.
Pentile matrix on over 400ppi is already impossible to tell. 500ppi. Maybe you need some common sense. Still sharper, and better than 326ppi puny 4" display.
3. YourNickname (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)
"This article is brought to you by samsung"
4. phljcnth (Posts: 479; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Super AMOLED is just perfect. I rest my case, your honor.
34. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
The Apple propaganda made a big deal of the "colour accuracy" , because Apple can afford only old tech Samsung displays(LCD)for now. .
The truth is that only few ppl care of colour accuracy, and most of the ppl will never turn on this "colour accuracy" mode on. Ppl like great colours, contrast and blacks. Not washed out LCD. And Samsung provide it.
But OK, it's good to have it .
44. sniper1087 (Posts: 499; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
huh? "apple can afford only samsung old tech displays(LCD)", are you aware how much money apple has?, which means they can afford and the displays on the iphone are made by LG.
45. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You misunderstand the point(it's normal for iboy, though)
It's not matter of money. But Samsung have no capacity yet, to produce as many SAMOLED displays for their devices and even to sell to Apple. (besides Apple want big profit margin, but must wait the production price to drop down)
First "retina ????" displays was made by Samsung. And even later the "Retina???" iPad mini.
109. sniper1087 (Posts: 499; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
"its normal for iboy" really what makes you think i am an "iboy" I have owned more devices than you think, from all the most popular brands and all platforms, so I consider myself neutral and give credit where credit is due, in fact right now I have a Lumia 1520 and an LG G3.
The first retina was on the iPhone 4 and was made by LG do your research before posting and making yourself look incompetent, what Samsung manufactured was the A4 chip. Even the ipads display are made by LG.
122. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
it was made by both... main supplier was lg and apple hired samsung to fulfill the demand
5. CLmaster (Posts: 69; Member since: 06 Sep 2014)
yeeeei! I've been waiting for a color accuracy and battery review of the Note 4 :D This is definetly going to be my next smartphone.. let's hope for great battery life
54. quangvu (Posts: 12; Member since: 13 Jan 2014)
Why do you care about battery life? Of course most flagship phones survive a normal day easily. If you are a very heavy user who sometimes plays hours continuously on weekends (like me :)) then no current phones fit your need. But hey, only 40 buck for an extra battery kit; that is a big advantage from removable back cover phones. This is one of many reason I say NO to all "premium itoys" nomatter what it is.
78. Gemmol (Posts: 781; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
not true Lumia 1520 last 2 days to 3 days on heavy useage, most my battery last was 4 days, I proved it a few weeks ago with my battery stats from an app, and other fellow Lumia 1520 owners said the same thing.........but then again this goes with the article that phonearena posted the other day with the HTC M8 for android and windows with everything the same the Windows version last longer, and this my friend is why I do not care about carrying an extra battery, in the past on android I would carry an extra battery, even with the galaxy note series but since I got the Lumia 1520 I do not have to think about battery life any more......thats the best feeling in the world, you will see what I mean in the future when android have bigger batteries, where you can go to work on 50 percent charge, watch videos and stream music all day on lte and still come home with 30 percent or more left
95. CLmaster (Posts: 69; Member since: 06 Sep 2014)
that's true, but I still prefer Android, let's hope Android L is a little more efficient
94. CLmaster (Posts: 69; Member since: 06 Sep 2014)
precisely because my current smartphone is an itoy xD I know that almost any android flagship lasts more, but I take a LOT of pictures and videos daily and that takes a toll on battery life quickly. Maybe if the battery in the Note 4 is as good as the S5, it will last a whole day of heavy camera usage
6. tedkord (Posts: 9915; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
No, Ray. You've never been honest about it.
35. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Yup. There is no way , somebody who is not loyal to Apple, to get job in tech media. NO WAY.
87. JMartin22 (Posts: 1889; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
I'm going to agree, he slandered the S5 for no reason at the time based on some shoddy findings they did with their lunge software-based applications.
7. pwnarena (Posts: 1129; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
samsung is making their display look more "natural" in its default mode. sony is making their z3 photos and videos warmer and more saturated. lg and sharp handled the bezel reduction mission. apple is making big screen phones. chinese manufacturers are selling dirt cheap devices.
so when will HTC do something to please their customers and save their own azzes?
8. JMartin22 (Posts: 1889; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
This particular AMOLED screen is even more well calibrated than the IPS LCD in the iPhone 5S (the current market leader in mobile handset LCD technology), the Note 4 also features more accurate whites as well. The last great challenge AMOLED has to endure before completely and utterly surpassing LCD panels is continually amplifying the brightness output and maintaining efficiency. I see that happening in a few short years. Maybe even Apple will be adopting and licencing Samsung's AMOLED display technology for their future handsets.
13. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I normally would disagree with you but i couldn't agree more in this instance, AMOLED's development is surpassing LCD's at a crazy rate, AMOLED's have come so far in the last few years it is astonishing. Congratulations to Samsung for the constant and efficient development of AMOLED.
22. avalon2105 (Posts: 225; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
How is Apple market leader in mobile handset LCD technology when it is actually Sharp that makes their screens? As for SAMOLEDs, just ditch PenTile matrix and use conventional RGB or even better RGBW and they would be perfect.
26. JMartin22 (Posts: 1889; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
I didn't say the company was a market leader. The product that employs that specific technology is though. Whether it be manufactured through Sharp/LG/Samsung. Referring to the PenTile argument is like beating a dead horse. It doesn't make any case or prove anything at this point. Besides, the Diamond Matrix is hardly your traditional PenTile makeup, it's better.
33. avalon2105 (Posts: 225; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
Actually PenTile does lower the perceived screen sharpness considerably so I would consider it a very important aspect of screen quality. Is Diamond Matrix better than conventional PenTile, hell yeah, is it worse than RGB, also hell yeah. That is something that should be addressed as well as brightness on SAMOLED screens. Sure, those 500 nits may look promising, but then you look at something like Xperia T3 with 790 nits of brightness and realize that 500 nits is a joke.
Also, look at last picture (the grayscale balance) and you'll see it is still green as fcuk so the balance isn't there just yet (hopefully on S6 it will be).
48. turk_az (Posts: 39; Member since: 11 May 2012)
but you forget fact which Samoleds are less reflective ! that means 500 nits is not joke
57. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
In auto brightness....this amoled can hit up to 699 nits....
As someome said above amoled is less reflective....and has been top on sun light visibility always compared to LCD.....
no one is going to use full brightness in indoors....
67. Iodine (Posts: 1284; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
698 nits, but with only 1% of the screen illuminated, and I don't think you will be happy that you see a white dot on the sun so well... not even mentioning how quickly it will affect the color balance at such high brightness.
Amoled is actually more reflective, because of that anode on top of the organic layer. The myth of less reflective amoleds started because amoleds have to be laminated to prevent degradation, and that reduces reflectivity significally, but LCD can also be laminated easily, and achieve even lower reflectivity.
Why not ? The displays looks amazing indoors at higher brightness, and you are not limited by some image processing software to turn it to max brightness at any time you like.
80. tedkord (Posts: 9915; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
And yet when reflectivity was tested in the lab, both the Galaxy S5 and Note 3 had much lower values than the iPhone.
89. avalon2105 (Posts: 225; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
Yes it can reach 700 nits, but only a very small part of the screen. When most of the display is turned off, couple of white spots could have brightness that high. If the whole screen was set to a white wallpaper and brightness slider pushed to the max it wouldn't come close to 700 nits.