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Adobe to end new Flash installs on Aug 15th, no Jelly Bean support

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Adobe to end new Flash installs on Aug 15th, no Jelly Bean support
It has been about 7 month since Adobe said it was pulling the plug on Flash Player for mobile browsers. To reiterate that promise, Adobe took to its blog to make its plans very clear in the wake of the announcement of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.

First of all, devices that come pre-loaded with Flash have been certified by Adobe that the Flash Player will works as expected on the device. Previously, users of uncertified device simply grabbed a copy of Flash in the Google Play Store and, most of the time, it worked just fine. With the release of an entirely new version of Android, Adobe says that it will not certify any Android 4.1 devices.

While in the past that wouldn’t be that big of a deal, Adobe also says that starting on August 15th, it will configure the settings in the Play Store to only allow Flash Player updates to devices that already have Flash installed. Devices that do not have Flash installed will not be authorized to download it from the Google Play Store. While a device that is upgraded from 4.0 to 4.1 will keep its Flash Player in tact, Adobe recommends uninstalling it because it may exhibit unexpected behavior.

Ultimately, we’ll have to see how it actually respondes once Jelly Bean becomes the standard. We’re guessing that if it works decent enough, you’ll probably still be able to easily find the APK online.

source: Adobe

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posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:34 9

1. clevername (Posts: 1428; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Is a flash-less android in our near future?

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:39 2

2. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, pretty much any device that comes out of the box with JB will not be supported by Adobe...i may not get in such a hurry to upgrade.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 23:42

58. molanjames (Posts: 64; Member since: 11 Oct 2012)


Hi @kingkurogiii you are absolutly right
"any device that comes out of the box with JB will not be supported by Adobe"
but user can install adobe flash on JB device manually . check out tutorial how
http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-on-android-devices/

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:14 1

10. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


i dont know why is adobe killing flash for android?
i just love flash on my dolphin hd..!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:25 3

18. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Flash is a resource hog. HTML5 is becoming the standard. Flash is something more suitable for desktops not mobile phones.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:45 4

34. johnbftl (Posts: 191; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Apple fans have been screaming that HTML5 is going to be the industry standard for a few years now. Guess what? It's still a few years away. Until then, Adobe Flash, no matter how much it slows down a device, is the industry standard, and because Steve Jobs was a prick and bashed anything he personally didn't like, Adobe refused to create a version of Flash for Apple. So again, for 3 years now, Apple is behind the curve when it comes to the industry standard.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:29 2

37. shimmyx20 (Posts: 280; Member since: 03 Mar 2009)


Since HTML 5 is going to be the industry standard, wouldn't you say that Apple is ahead of the curve then? Just sayin. :)

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:20 1

39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


but what about now when we need the current industry standard? Android is ready for HTML5 but we need Flash to do us until more and more jump on the HTML5 bandwagon.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:37 1

43. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Its only being killed on brand NEW sets that come preinstalled with 4.1 Anyone that is getting a software UPGRADE will still have Flash. Which means that its not a compatibility issue, its just being quietly removed. but its nothing to worry about. Your probably 3-6 months from any JB devices launching at all. You can always just install the APK from the internet. Also, as our resident moron iFans like to point out, 4.0/4.1 adoption has been pretty slow, so its not like JB is going to be on the majority of sets any time soon unless something changes.

Hell are we even at 15-20% 4.0 installs yet? Most of the SGS2's have gotten their upgrade or are in the middle of getting it, so we should see a large jump in the next report or 2.

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 00:57 1

53. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, i know all that but it's not like there's been any real big boost in the adoption of HTML5 lately, i think i can safely project for at least myself that Flash will still be quite relevant upon the arrival of JB handsets. i don't want that to be a reason for me to stick with my Razr, i'm interested in other things.
4.0 adoption has been slow across Android World Wide and in different kinds of markets including the eReader market which makes up for over half of the Android Tablet marketshare and an ICS upgrade hasn't exactly been real pressing there. when you look it over over half of the eligible phones for ICS have or are about to receive ICS and it won't take nearly as long for these devices to get JB as it's not exactly "kernel deep" like it was going from GB to ICS. i would also surmise that the Nexus 7 is going to be quite popular so in reality we should see the JB share go up before we start seeing much more ICS market share.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:43 4

46. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)


but android has the support for html5 as well.. so who's really ahead? the one with html5, or the one with html5 AND flash?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 21:38

51. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the one who has less!!! right!?!? thats what apple wispers in my ear!

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:41 11

3. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2973; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


There's better things than flash anyway. On that note, hey PhoneArena many of us use our phones to view your website. While we accept ads on your website and ignore them. The annoying one that forces you to close out of it before you can read or click on any of your articles is not, please remove them as this could cause less and less people from wanting to continue to go to your website.

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:44

4. imkyle (Posts: 983; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


So when I get the nexus tablet will I be able to download dolphin browser and will flash work on that browser?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:05

8. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


eh, it's iffy. this is really where Flash is going to start being bottle necked and when 5.0 comes around that's when it gets sealed off.

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:44 4

5. darktranquillity (Posts: 284; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


On Indian independence day.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:11

9. Commentator (Posts: 2406; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Then there's no better time to celebrate independence from Flash!

No, but seriously, this will be hard to get used to...

posted on 28 Jun 2012, 23:50

6. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


As long as the push to HTML 5 doesnt slow down...so be it. I sense another aritcle thats about to be overun....soon....

All I know is I tried to look at yahoo sports nba on my RAZR running ICS and cant...sites, content makers need to get on the HTML 5 bandwagon faster....

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:02 1

7. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


they really do. too many sites i go to still rely on Flash and others use HTML5 as a premium feature.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 06:24

55. illiad (Posts: 113; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


There IS something better! :) have you noticed AIR on your desktop,as well as some mobile requesting it???

If you do not trust wikipedia, try various adobe blogs, etc...
http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmedia/2012/06/impact-on-android-video-delivery/

http://esdot.ca/site/2011/mobile-performance-tests-html5-vs-air

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:15 5

11. Sniggly (Posts: 7000; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Well that sucks. At least it's been a nice ride to the end, and we didn't miss out while HTML5 wasn't an option. Since there's a paradigm shift to mobile for the center of our tech worlds, I imagine that websites will be quick to make the change.

The biggest thing I'll miss is the inability to easily view *copyrighted* videos or videos that *aren't allowed to work on mobile* on my phone just by using Youtube's desktop version on my phone's browser. Maybe Google will switch Youtube's default to HTML5 encoding after this rolls out.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 01:54 2

15. Sniggly (Posts: 7000; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


*ability,* not inability. I shouldn't type when I'm tired.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 00:56 4

12. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


another lie by remix stating that flash had at least 5 more years of support.. where is he now

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 01:19 4

13. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1379; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Adobe flash isn't going to last forever,everyone knows this, but that is what a large part of the internet currently runs on. HTML5 is coming along, but the adoption process has been slow so far. It's not like they can just wave a magic wand and have any flash content magically become HTML5. It's going to take awhile for the internet to transition to it, so we're still looking at having flash around for awhile. Besides, it's not like flash on the internet will cease to function after August 15th, they'll still be doing security patches until the majority of sites transition to HTML5. In the meantime, like the article stated, there are probably some devs working on getting an apk that will allow flash to work on 4.1 devices.

And to be fair, that was a educated guess on his part. Who can honestly say with certainty what these companies will do other than the ones making the decisions? Who would've guessed RIM would be in the position they're in now a couple of years ago? Try an be a little realistic here.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 01:53 5

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7000; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Flash itself isn't gone from the interwebs. Mobile flash, which is seen as a subpar video/banner rendering solution (I guess...?) is what's going away.

Duh.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:29 3

20. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Mobile flash is pretty subpar when you think about it. There's no real reason to have it other than to watch videos.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:21 1

40. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


which i do.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:28 2

19. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Running is a lot easier than admitting the truth.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 07:04

28. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


We've seen YOU lie before, don't act like it never happened.
Take the plank out of your own eye, bro. ;D

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:01

35. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


but at least I speak from experience and if I am wrong I am wrong but remix will never admitted that's the difference.. he didn't guess.. he stated that wont go away to win a debate with me.. he tends to make up stuff to win debates.. fandroids never admit when wrong.. He still my go to guy for information.. but when predicting what a company or a product will do.. nop

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:02 2

31. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, gallito, what I said was it would be another 3-5 years until HTML5 would be the dominant internet media form. Dont misquote me. :)

This doesnt change a whole lot gallito. By your own troll statements, since ICS is only on 7% of devices its going to take another 2 years just to get that update. isnt that what you said? hmm?

And if you read the article, any device UPGRADING to 4.1 will retain flash, and it will still be available to most. It just wont be Nativity available in the Play store or on brand new 4.1 based phones. So a very very small minority of android devices wont have flash out of the box.... one day... not today.

of course, this is android. thats easily fixed by doing a google search for flash.apk and installing it.

And again ANDROID users dont care. Only iOS users do. U want flash to die to speed up HTML5 adoption so you can see the whole internet for the first time. Android users get flash AND HTML5, so we win today and tomorrow.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:14

36. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


remix buddy I don't want flash to die.. I could care less,. I only use it on my laptop.. the point of this is the internet is much safer without flash.. everyone called jobs crazy when he didn't allow it on his products.. and now he is smiling.. so yes in Jobs I trust.. see i am not a sweetalker like you i dont sugar coat anything.. I even lack typing skills and my grammr is kidergarten level but I when I am right I like to be credited.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:41

45. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Jobs didnt allow flash, not because of HTML5 which was still YEARS away from complete at the time, but because it didnt run smoothly on the antiquated 660mhz processor of the i3gs, which was the big guy at the time. Hell at that time, it ran pretty crappy on android phones for the same reason.
But like in typical steve jobs fasion, once he dug in on a stance he stayed dug in and closed his ears. There is no reason that the i4s could not have had flash.. and you would have cheered if it did. Its just sticking to outdated policies.

What were you right about? You misquoted me, chickenhead. :)

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:37

49. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


didn't you said that flash was going to be around 5 years.. when the phones coming out will not support flash?.. so unless you have dinosaur phone with an outdated version of flash there si no way flash will exist in five years I can paste what you said.. but I rather you back pedal some more

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 21:39

52. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


reread my initial reply to you, chickenhead.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:37 1

44. slaggyb (Posts: 191; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Having flash intact even after upgrading to 4.1 from 4.0 according to adobe is as good as useless....so flash lovers like me using samsung galaxy s ii as a backup phone and the bold 9900 as everyday phone will just not upgrade any further even if samsung throws in the jelly bean update tomorrow....

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:12 3

16. tverma83 (Posts: 7; Member since: 15 Jun 2012)


One of the many predictions (n innovations) by Steve Jobs that turned out to be true
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 07:53 1

30. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 629; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


It's not a prediction. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Steve Jobs did not predict decline of Flash - he ordered it, and now the world thinks he predicted it. He actually never predicted anything. He was just in a position to dictate the chain of events that would lead to fulfilling of his "prophecies".

He was clever businessman because obviously he was the only one of them to know that you must dictate the world to transform into your business, not transform you business to match the world.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:19

17. maryaaadil (Posts: 146; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)


I have GNote n SGIII.
will flash work on them?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 04:03

24. korean411 (Posts: 40; Member since: 04 May 2009)


for the galaxy note yes you will be able to run adobe flash because it is under gingerbread and for the galaxy s III you will still be able to since all devices that has ICS can download adobe flash only 4.1 jelly bean won't be able to.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 04:35

25. sid07desai (Posts: 256; Member since: 03 May 2012)


no chutia. no.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:44

21. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 411; Member since: 04 May 2012)


If I update my phone which is on 2.3.4 GIngerbread to ICS, will Flash still be there?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 05:20 2

26. Retro-touch (Posts: 257; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


For christ's sake ICS (Ice cream Sandwich) is not JB (Jelly Bean) read the title of the article and use some common sense

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:25

41. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yes, it will, it'll even still be on it after you get JB. Adobe will continue to support Flash for devices that officially support it. if you look on the box your phone came in it should say something like "Supported by Adobe Flash" or something. Adobe just won't do anything to progress Flash anymore.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:45 2

22. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 629; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I see you have been succesfully indoctrinated by Steve Jobs. His wish is your command. HTML5 is not exactly the real substitute to Flash, and Silverlight is not so widespread. There will be no real alternative until they make something better or something else. Adobe stopped development of Flash only because the world restructured itself to non-Flash version after Steve Jobs said that it won't be supported.

Then, everyone had to invent some "a posteriori" rationalisations and reasons why that was justified - it's draining battery and halts performance, bla bla bla.

We all subcounciously know that Flash would live on if SJ approved it.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 02:47 4

23. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 629; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Until recently, mobile phones reviews stated that lack of Flash support was a minus. And now it will become a plus? See how relative the terms "better" or "more advanced" are?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 05:58

27. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 361; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


there must be an alternative to adobe flash.i think android must be working for its current and future versions.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 06:28

56. illiad (Posts: 113; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


well it seems most have stopped looking here, but here it is..

There IS something better! :) have you noticed AIR on your desktop,as well as some mobile requesting it???

If you do not trust wikipedia, try various adobe blogs, etc...
http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmedia/2012/06/impact-on-android-video-delivery/

http://esdot.ca/site/2011/mobile-performance-tests-html5-vs-air

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 07:06

29. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


I honestly DON'T GIVE A CRAP!! YYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:11

32. Robert235 (Posts: 50; Member since: 30 May 2010)


Im sure our friends at XDA with my flash work on 4.1

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:26 1

33. jibraihimi (Posts: 695; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


OMG here goes Android's biggest advantage over ios, in the drain............ Now what's is the advantage of Android over ios/WP8.....??? Bluetooth file transfer.......????

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:48

38. shimmyx20 (Posts: 280; Member since: 03 Mar 2009)


This is not really too big of a deal. Many sites have moved away from Flash, especially for mobile versions of websites. I have Flash set to only enable on demand on my phone, and I rarely have to use it.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:28 1

42. forgingsteel (Posts: 13; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


How will this effect my viewing porn?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 17:41

50. CivicSi89 (Posts: 348; Member since: 23 Jul 2011)


You should still be good. But i prey to God your using an Otterbox Defender while Fapping to your phone.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:46

47. osanilevich (Posts: 244; Member since: 29 Sep 2009)


i find it kind of annoying how adobe cancels mobile flash and leaves us with nothing to immediately replace it

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 14:17

48. saiki4116 (Posts: 351; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)


Is it a coincedence or what?.the day falls on the independence day of india....

posted on 30 Jun 2012, 08:55

54. bbdol (Posts: 15; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


I'm running Android 4.1 on my Gnex with the latest Adobe flash app installed and working.

posted on 10 Jul 2012, 06:29

57. illiad (Posts: 113; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


pics, or we wont believe.... hacked/ custom rom/ lucky or heading for a crash..... :P

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