700,000 Android devices are now activated daily
1. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
If you do the math, most of the activations are the lower to mid-range models. While the high-end devices like Razr or Nexus gets the headlines, the $100 to $200 models are being activated -- most likely in places like mainland China. If you annualize the 700,000 daily number, unless people in the US are activating 5 android handsets a year, the activations have to be in the places with the largest populations. Hence, Huawei and ZTE are dominate players in these activations.
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
OMG, why do u even post, Dr. Negative.
Do what math? Show me your sources. Quit talking out of your butt for once.
The ONLY math I see is that 9 of the top 10 android sets are PREMIUM sets.
Oh and 50% of all Apple activations are for the free/discounted model, not for the latest and greatest.
Android sets sell HIGHER than apple sets now. So the ONLY math I see is that the only reason Apple has been able to MAINTAIN its percentage in the market at all is because they are selling a ton of 3gs and now i4 sets at free or super cheap... so dont come around here trying to throw some fake numbers at us about android and how people only buy cheap sets.
13. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and how many deactivate past the trial period... if you ask for proofs,, there arent any as Rubin didnt presented any to back those number up.. other than his word... (he stated that the Nexus would be relased on Nov) so we can dispute those numbers.. based on .. no proofs...
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
gallito, even if it were some absurdly high number like 10%, that would still eave 630k activations after returns which is double what iphones activate at if not more. But its not that high. Unless its a crap phone like the Garmin, we see very few returns on android devices..
why is that?
Because 95% of what we sell are high end android devices.
25. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
95% high end phones... see you do have a sense of humor... two weeks ago Sprint had the Evo free ..and now is in back order... because again... was free... most people have free phones as crazy as it sounds... speaking of crazy... 43% of Android dinosaurs phones... still have Froyo... crazy huh..
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
whats wrong with froyo? I still use it as the main driver on my phone when im not playing with ICS leaks. Its fast, its stable, it gets every feature, and it gives me that monster battery life i brag about on my single core phone. Yup yup, froyo isnt bad at all.
Do I work at sprint, gallito? Do I sell Evo's for a living? I just checked the site. its $100 for an Evo, which is still OUT OF STOCK.. Not too shabby for a 2 year old android phone, huh? Guess they keep some value after all.
2. ilia1986 (unregistered)
That should shut the iCheep who always claim that activations are merely reinstalling a custom rom, restoring factory default settings and other such BS.
3. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Too bad he doesn't count the awfully high return rate of Android phones.
4. ilia1986 (unregistered)
How bout you back that statement with some reliable sources, eh?
7. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yeah I know. His words mean less than a banana thrown by a space monkey - but I try to be reasonable.
14. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I kept it in house.. for you
15. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Okay let's see what was said there:
"For *some* Android phones - the return rate is as high as 40%."
So what this says - provided that the source is correct - that there are 2 Android phones (some is more than one technically) whose return rate is as high as 40%.
It doesn't say which phones from which manufacturers. It doesn't even say *HOW MANY* phones reach a 40% return rate. Just that *SOME* do.
Remember Nokia in 2006? With their zillion phones? What If I told you that *SOME* of their phones have a 40% return rate? Would you deem thus the entire Symbian Platform in 2006 a complete failure?
16. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
I can use the same analogy you gave for the activations article.. on which phones are being activated. the high ends phones or the ones that will be returned... but if you have the time in between forcecloses... then do the math.. and think about it...
17. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Let's see - provided both sources give correct information:
"Android activations have reached a daily rate of over 700,000" - FACT
"or *some* Android phones - the return rate is as high as 40%" - FACT
At least 700,000 Android phones are activated per day.
At least 2 types of phones are returned 40% of the time.
I REALLY fail to see how the second statement hurts the first...
18. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
if you buy an Android phone.. it was free.. activated but hated it.. you returned.. it so far so good.. we are meeting both facts so far.... you tried another Android ..well is because they will shoved another Android phone but better quality... activated... he is happy now.. high end device... but a month later comes another Android better that what you have... Android moves at the speed of lighting.. by 6 months your beloved Android phone shows age.. ( will be a medium end device faulty and will be 49.99 ) and by the end of their 2 troubled years... the iphone will bring joy for Jane Doe... and she will now leave the robot for the fruit.... see how Android squeezes at least 2 activation out of every android consumer reaching their goal.. in activation.. in returns... and Apple still being the champ in customer service and loyalty.... the end...
19. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
even with the returns for faulty devices, they still beat iOS hands down in activations. prove me wrong
20. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
is hard to prove you wrong when I already agreed with you... but thanks for taking the time to read...
24. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Now gallito I do admit that this is an interesting theory.
But it's just that - a theory - until you somehow prove us all that the average lifespan of an Android handset is significantly lower than that of the iPhone.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
GALLITO LOGIC STRIKES AGAIN
no no, we said proof, not an article that is regurgitating a rumor. Even in the article it says the dude is quoting " “a person familiar with the handset sales for numerous manufacturers who claims...."
Not a named person, not a hard line source to show, no validity, and they certainly were not talking about android over all, just certain individual sets.
Its really hard to take you serious. Are you a parody of a real person like Miz?
26. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Wow show me proof of the Android activations.. and I will enroll myself in the looney bin... I want a reliable source.. not the CEO tooting his own horn... I doubt you will... you will insult me rather than show your proofs...
28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so what your saying is that we should never ever ever believe anything Steve Jobs told us about apple? those CEO's tooting their own horns n all.
30. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Well than show me proof of Android return rates - because until you do - I'm going to claim that no Android phone was returned. Ever.
10. jacko (unregistered)
i been using android since being released and i have yet to get a faulty one
i think the miz is just butt hurt coz the is**t dont sell as good
12. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
dont forgot the ones that explode..oh wait thats THE IPHONE
21. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
The amount of backpedaling by Android fans here is astronomically high.
31. ilia1986 (unregistered)
The amount of idiocy in your posts is astronomically high...
oh wait thats THE MIZ
8. snowgator (Posts: 3558; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I cannot wrap my head around that number. That is truly amazing.
9. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
29. jstoned (Posts: 36; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
gallitoking just has no clue about what supperiority means, gallitoking is so blindly
I-TARDED, he believes the socialistic ways of Apple are a godsend. When he experiences the ability and freedom of Android he wouldn't know what to do with it. People like him like to be told what to do with what they own. Thats why he's an Itard. Christ the guy prolly even has apple TV. He'll never know what it's like to stream in HD for free to an HD TV, or get free music, or free NFL NBA and MLB games, or free apps, or freedom to change battery and memory, or free life.
32. roscuthiii (Posts: 2199; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Apple is not socialistic, fascist maybe.