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50% of active Windows Phone units won't be updated to Windows 10 Mobile

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50% of active Windows Phone units won't be updated to Windows 10 Mobile
Microsoft has announced that the Windows 10 Mobile update will be sent to the following Windows Phone powered handsets: Nokia Lumia 1520, Nokia Lumia 930, Microsoft 640, Microsoft Lumia 640 XL, Nokia Lumia 730, Nokia Lumia 735, Nokia Lumia 830, Microsoft Lumia 532, Microsoft Lumia 535, Microsoft Lumia 540, Nokia Lumia 635 1GB, Nokia Lumia 636 1GB, Nokia Lumia 638 1GB, Microsoft Lumia 430, Microsoft Lumia 435, BLU Win HD w510u, BLU Win HD LTE x150q, and the MCJ Madosma Q501. Popular models like the Nokia Lumia 920 were left off the list. Also not receiving the update is the most widely used Windows Phone handset of all time, the Nokia Lumia 520.

According to Windows Phone cross-promotional ad network AdDuplex, taking into consideration the number of active users of each Windows Phone model, about 50% of Windows Phone handsets in use today are not going to receive the update to Windows 10 Mobile. While Microsoft originally said that it would update all of the Lumia phones that it possibly could, it now appears that the software giant is making its decisions based on the satisfaction of users using the Insider builds.

In one way, this makes sense. Microsoft is going to want to send Windows 10 Mobile to those phones where the update receives the most positive reviews from users. And checking users' satisfaction to the Insider builds is one way to see this quantified in numbers.

The data produced by AdDuplex reveals that the Lumia 520 remains the most used Lumia model. The low-end handset represents 12.9% of all Windows Phone units currently in use. The Microsoft Lumia 535 is next with an 11.7% share of active users. It also is the most active Windows Phone handset set to receive the Windows 10 Mobile update. The Microsoft Lumia 640 had the highest increase over the month, gaining 1 percentage point while the Lumia 520 declined 1.1 percentage points.


source: @ailon via MSPowerusers

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posted on 19 Mar 2016, 12:50 24

1. Rafishant (Posts: 224; Member since: 13 Oct 2015)


96% of active Android units won't be updated to Marshmallow..
Android is my favorite platform, but it is the worst when it comes to update. LOL!

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 12:58 11

5. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


96% of what Android can do, Windows can't do it. LOL !

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:15 5

10. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


At least you understand it! @juandante

Updates does not make a phone. An Android Phone, running even the old Kitkat, still can come more than what Windows Mobile can do!

I buy a phone for it's out-of-the-box capabilities. I consider updates as a bonus.

And not all updates are actually worth it!

In fact, the best to enjoy a new versoin of an Operative System is to purchase a smartphone which comes preloaded with it out of the box.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:32 7

18. Rafishant (Posts: 224; Member since: 13 Oct 2015)


''Microsoft is going to want to send Windows 10 Mobile to those phones where the update receives the most positive reviews from users''

So rather than fixing bugs in W10M, they punishing the users because of negative feedbacks?LOL

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:02 4

29. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


@Rafishant

It's about Microsft focusing on the majority where the users are actually excited of the Windows 10 Mobile update.

It's quite costly to maintain servers and pointless (as per Microsoft) to roll out updates where the majority do not give a sh*t about it.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 07:26

62. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


No, its s cuz they already tried to fix problems but still had issues with that particulars phones

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:37 8

21. sgodsell (Posts: 3381; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


So nothing new here. It's the same crap when Microsoft dropped Windows Mobile for Windows Phone, then they dropped Windows Phone 7 for Windows Phone 8. Same crap, different day.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 20:35 1

50. S-R-K (banned) (Posts: 304; Member since: 15 Mar 2016)


Next will be WP10.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 02:19 2

58. Cicero (Posts: 861; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


Yep! I was left behind, and very fast, when I bought Nokia 800. I never looked back for Windows phone.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 07:27 2

63. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


When u buy a Samsung phone u have updates forever?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:22 1

15. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Really like what? I'm curious because I can even select which bands (ie 1900 pcs, 700 mhz band 12 LTE without the need for the phone itself to force me on a band I don't want to be in.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:53 5

27. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


Though you can't select bands on default on Android, there's an
app in the PlayStore called LTE Discover.

Multitasking on Windows Phone, from my experience, is very bad.
To leave apps and processes in the background and returning back and meet them intact?

It's multitasking sucks, even on Windows Phones with 2GB+ RAM!

What about File Managing?

Let alone customization.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:22 4

30. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


LTE Discovery only let's you see what bands your phone is connected to, not connect to a desired band, whereas I can connect at will without the need for rooting or voiding my warranty. Multitasking, is a breeze, windows phone, at least my lumia 1520 and 1020, don't lag and make multitasking a breeze, I especially love skipping through the YouTube ads at will.
File managing is there, you just have to download the app but even then what's the purpose of it when all your files are already accessible from the destination of the file? I.e. Pictures will go under pictures, word documents will go under office, music will go obviously under music.
Customization is amazing, you have live tiles and can change backgrounds at will, however what's the benefit of pimping out your phone? I used to do it when I was in high school, but what's the point now? To feel like a kid again?
Seriously, I fail to see your logic when I have rebuttals for you.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 16:06 2

37. Subie (Posts: 547; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


Great rebuttal Bernoulli. I would also add Continuum to the list when it comes to multitasking. Does Android do that Adreno?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 18:05 1

44. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Great point, I was only mentioning from my Lumia 1520, thanks for the input.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 16:53

40. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


Huh?

Windows Phone's customization and multitasking abilities are INFERIOR to Android's.

And when rooted, oh... It's a whole new level altogether!

Deal with it.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 18:04 2

43. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


Huh, yep that pretty much describes your mentality, which is that of a teenager. The multitasking is by no means inferior, especially when you account android's lag, particularly if you have a touchwiz powered mobile.
Rooting, if possible (i.e. Samsung KNOX and BlackBerry Priv) voids your warranty and much more prone to viruses and malware, but seriously, why are you so ignorant? Can your phone turn into a full-fledged PC like Continuum does and continue working on a word document? That's multitasking to a whole new level, newbie.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 18:54

46. hulk_14 (Posts: 63; Member since: 14 Dec 2013)


On l1520 with win 10m it looks much better than on wp 8.1

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 21:40

51. arenanew (Posts: 279; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)


bro only kitkat 4.4 was good and stable after than 95 % of user hate lolipop version main is file reallocation . marshmallow and bla blah are utter flop

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 01:05 3

54. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


95% of Android users hate Lollipop?

Where did you get such an erroneous data?

Provide proof, please!

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 18:59

68. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


You have yet to reply to me, newbie, otherwise you're standing by what I said about lagdroid.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 10:05 2

65. oozz009 (Posts: 517; Member since: 22 Jun 2015)


I totally agree with Adreno here, how in the world could you think that!! Android L was the most exciting android update in it's recent history, it's also the most popular android version now. I would go even so far as saying that android L was more exciting that M considering that in brought many visual changes and many features. Android M simply improves on what android L already had and it also adds a little more feauture (mainly security feautures that android lacked on).

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:32 1

32. bubbadoes (Posts: 815; Member since: 03 May 2012)


buy an iphone. this is what is wrong with the fragmemted poor apps non supported good os running on octacore platforms with 4 gigs of ram. for what! at least an iphone 4s is still updated to latest ios 9.?? here is a clear unbiased example. iphone 4s and galaxy s2 were releases same time. CASE IN POINT. GALAXYS2 is gone to the grave and not getting any updates from google or carrier has a resale value of 0 dollars. on the other hand. iphone4s gets updated to ios 9 and can still be sold. try selling a gs2 anywhere other than overseas where in emerging markets its still suffice. people like techie who swear by samsung and specs will never get it. wake up. i did. its about the experience and money in my pocket.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 16:13 7

38. Charlie2k (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Jan 2016)


Microsoft won't update old phones because it would make them suck.
Apple gladly updates old phones because it makes them suck.
That's the difference... one of them care for the experience. One of them only care about money and forcing people to buy new phones.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 17:06

42. Adreno (banned) (Posts: 755; Member since: 12 Mar 2016)


That's exactly what is happenning.
Microsoft cares to conserve it's already small userbase.

Apple might actually care for the user experience, but does not need to fear about losing it's userbase because of an iOS update potentially bringing old deviced into a crawl, since they're the only ones who make iOS devieces.

So Apple releases iOS 9 for iPhone 4S, and whatever happens to people's iPhone 4S is no big deal to them.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:32 4

33. nghtwng68 (Posts: 91; Member since: 26 Nov 2009)


The Nexus devices running stock Android make Android updates nicely.
Don't blame Android, blame the manufacturers running skins on top of Android like Samsung Touch Whiz, LG Optimus, Sony Xperia, HTC Sense and others. Plus, blame the carriers bloatware causing updates not to happen.

Samsung and other manufacturers, for example, would rather make a new device each year, sell a mammoth amount of new phones to consumers with current Android OS, than update the OS on last year's model.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 21:41

52. arenanew (Posts: 279; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)


for me till now android 4.4 was stable and good rest are useless and bug

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 21:41

71. joey_sfb (Posts: 5437; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


You can stay with 4.4 forever! Does not make a different for the rest of us.

I like KK not enough to swear off future release which in my personal experience is better.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 01:18

55. Shubham412302 (Posts: 431; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


But microsoft promised updates for 36 months

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 12:53 1

2. IAMBLCKJ3ZUS (Posts: 234; Member since: 29 Sep 2015)


Lol I agree at least if they want they can stay in the insider program to get windows 10 mobile. As a owner of nexus 6p & lumia 960xl I find it crazy that .1% of android running android N 2% running marshmallow. Love both phones os's though.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:46 4

23. sgodsell (Posts: 3381; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Clearly math is not your strong point. It all has to do with numbers. Androids phones alone sold more devices in the last quarter (Sept - Dec), then Microsoft sold or had installed last year for all tablets, Laptops, desktops, mobile devices. With around 330 million Android phones alone in one quarter. Also Marshmallow update didn't reach OEMs until the beginning of this year. So even if Android only has 2.4% is around 8 million Androids running with Marshmallow.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 17:46 1

66. elitewolverine (Posts: 5125; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


When your having to upgrade your phone constantly - multiple different phones a year for a single user - common place. Where a pc will last 5-8yrs like mine has. There is a reason why android sells more. And it is not because of some powerhouse killer feature. It is because they are cheap with a big app store (despite apps being the biggest complaint I get for low powered androids). Despite the large amounts of flagships being sold, their average sale price of an android device is 180bucks, basically a Galaxy Grand Prime.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 21:27

70. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3928; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Most smartphones in general aren't kept for 5-8 years. My brother had a Droid Incredible he got rid of about a year ago, and the only reason he did was the battery was shot so he used it as an excuse to upgrade. But that's an isolated occurrence. Most people upgrade every 2-3 years. Most techies upgrade once a year, but not out of necessity, but because they want the latest thing. But you can't really compare the rate people upgrade laptops and desktops vs smartphones, for one thing they don't radically change the OS every year on PCs like they do on smartphones.

And btw, the average selling price for a WP device in 2015 was $148, where Android's was $219.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 12:54 6

3. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)


Much better than the 2.4% on marshmallow.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:20 1

13. o0Exia0o (Posts: 895; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


Ya, well, what is 50% of a 5% global market share come out to? Sure there are plenty of Android devices that wont see MM but how many of them are low-end, cheep throw away phones?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 12:57 3

4. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Is a final decision?, I mean will there be a second was of update for the Lumia 1020, 925, 920?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:10 1

8. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Sorry...
*Is it a final decision?I meant a second wave?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:16

11. NFSHesham (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Feb 2014)


Yep , no 2nd waves

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:35 1

20. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)


I didn't get it. They updated the low end Lumia 430 and didn't update HTC M8 that has SD801, quadcore, 2GB RAM!
Like seriously?

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:47

24. theguy2345 (Posts: 1197; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


M8 is getting the update. I contacted HTC yesterday, but there is no ETA. This is for Lumias and a couple other phones.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:00 1

28. Johnnokia (Posts: 1074; Member since: 27 May 2012)


No, It won't get the update, and Microsoft answered that clearly.
http://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-messed-communication-abandonment-first-generation-lumia/

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 16:55

41. theguy2345 (Posts: 1197; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Yes, it will. HTC told me this directly. Basically, yesterday's list was for Lumias and a couple of partner phones that got it yesterday. Those were all the Lumias, while partners can still update like HTC. They really botched the message though.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 19:39

49. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3928; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


To be fair, HTC is pretty bad about affirming an update, and then nixing it later on. I know their Desire line has had that happen a few times.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:17 3

12. o0Exia0o (Posts: 895; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


There's Micor$oft over promising and under delivering yet AGAIN..... That's why WP is loosing its marketshare, if you cant deliver on something then don't promise it. I knew that their promise of any WP running 8.1 would receive WP 10 was not going to happen.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:27

16. GreenMan (Posts: 1016; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


@o0Exia0o Do enlighten me in case I'm wrong, but I don't recall Microsoft promising WP10 update on old Nokia Phones like 1020 and 920...

But then again, I'm not entirely sure..!

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:34 3

19. o0Exia0o (Posts: 895; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/Microsoft-all-Lumias-running-Windows-Phone-8-will-be-updated-to-Windows-10_id62828

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 23:04 2

72. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Yup.

Many of us said the true test of their platform was going to be if they keep their word and update all the phones.

Yet again....MS fails to live up to its word.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:29 5

17. jellmoo (Posts: 1529; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)


The problem here is that Microsoft keeps doing this. They have failed to clearly convey upgrade paths for their platforms for multiple generations now. They announce non-specific plans, make general promises regarding potential support, and then have to backtrack on those promises after the fact.

It happened from Windows Mobile 6.5 to Windows Phone 7. It then happened from Windows Phone 7 to Windows Phone 8. And now it's happening with Windows Phone 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile.

I like the fact that bundle updates together, and their method for delivery is solid. But they keep making promises and then backtracking on them. It's really hard for consumers to trust their brand and platform when they keep getting shafted. I really want their platform to succeed and be a viable alternative, but it's their wishy washy, ever changing attitude towards their mobile platform that really keeps me from embracing it.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:38 1

22. o0Exia0o (Posts: 895; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


I know. After they said that all devices running WP 8 or higher would receive Windows 10 I went and bought a Lumia 822 so I could tryout Windows 10 when it came out....Guess that was a waist of $40... Oh well, I should have known better...

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 23:06 1

73. jroc74 (Posts: 5996; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


And many WP, Win Mo fans said updates would be sooooo much better than how its done on Android.

Right.

I keep saying this almost every 6 months....they sure seem mighty similar to me.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:49

25. GreenMan (Posts: 1016; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


In any case, my biggest gripe regarding the Windows Phone platform is the lack of quality apps...
Yes, WP has almost all the apps from Facebook to Twitter to Blackberry Messenger. unfortunately, they aren't on par with their iOS and Android counterparts... Updates comes once or twice in an year (if you're lucky, Twitter App for instance was last updated on 2014 I believe!)...

PROJECT ASTORIA was a breath of fresh air to WP users, unfortunately, the project has been halted indefinitely for some reasons unknown...

To be honest, I can't say I'm as enthusiastic about Windows Mobile platform as I used to be...
Windows phone is dying in our hearts and in our world...

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 01:32 1

56. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Twitter just recently got updated for windows phone, so what information are you reading......windows phone have majority of the features, so you are wrong, check WhatsApp again, it get updated all the time and Facebook, and the new instagram app also.....all of them was built over from scratch for windows 10.......twitter is beautiful on it

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 06:36 1

60. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1532; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


Microsoft got word from most developers that it's was best for them to port IOS Apple apps to Windows 10 Apps than try to port both Android and IOS Apple iphone or iPad apps to Windows 10 smart phones or tablets. The Apple iphone and Ipad have an apps catalog as big as and safer than Android apps. Windows smart phones will also get new apps through the Microsoft new "Universal Apps" program. a Microsoft Universal App works on a windows10 desktop PC, Lapto PC, Windows 10 tablet like a Surface Pro 3/4 and will also work on a Windows 10 smart phone

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 13:50 1

26. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1615; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


I know it's fashionable for Android and/or iPhone users to bash Microsoft but it's mostly out of ignorance. All those models listed are available as factory-unlocked from Microsoft. The models excluded are carrier-branded and may, or may not, receive the update. I hope 1520 and 640 users who have the AT&T versions don't go trippin' when their devices don't update.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:27

31. Bernoulli (Posts: 3809; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


I've been running a developer preview on my lumia 1520, but I think we're getting the official update anyway.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 19:33 1

48. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1615; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


You would think so because the 1520 has the specs for it. But not one Verizon device was listed (Icon, Ativ SE) and the M8 which has a newer CPU, and was the only non-Lumia to get 8.1 Update 2, isn't on the list either. I think this is Microsoft's way of CYA in case the carriers don't play ball.

posted on 20 Mar 2016, 01:36

57. Gemmol (Posts: 788; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


ATT check the update first before they okay it for their customers and they will okay it, just recently Microsoft send out both the firmware and latest update to 950 owners that were not on windows insiders, so you spewing wrong info, ATT test it first then give Microsoft the okay, so the unlock phones get it a month or 2 weeks faster, I say a month cause the firmware took a month or 3 weeks, and the regular update took a week or two to come

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:42 1

35. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3928; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


That was the same argument made for why certain Motorola phones were getting EOL'd last year. But that didn't stop people from bashing Motorola on updates even though they're usually the first OEM to upgrade their flagship after Nexus devices.

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 14:36 3

34. oozz009 (Posts: 517; Member since: 22 Jun 2015)


When it's about updates, Apple products are by far the best!

posted on 19 Mar 2016, 16:01

36. Switch00 (Posts: 426; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


1520 was bad just because of WM. Now, with WM10, it's even worse. It's slow and lags which it never did before. WM is like a virus for a decent hardware. Windows phone never ever again.

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