Next Nougat update could be Android 7.1 build NDE63B, shipping with Google Pixel and Pixel XL

Next Nougat update could be Android 7.1 build NDE63B, shipping with Google Pixel and Pixel XL
Serial leakster LlabTooFeR is unstoppable nowdays. Knowledgeable about all things HTC, he took to Twitter to announce that the upcoming Google Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones (codenamed Sailfish and Marlin) will ship with Android 7.1 in October. If he's to be believed, the current build number of Android 7.1 Nougat is NDE63B. This means owners of current Nexus devices (the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P, Nexus 6 and Nexus 9) should look forward to an Android update carrying the same build number.

However, this depends on whether Google decides to release updates and factory images carrying the same build, and whether there's a possibility of changing the build number to correspond to an October release. The current Android 7.1 build is dated September 1.

Shipping the latest Android version on new devices is a virtue mostly associated with Google, whose Nexus handsets are the only ones with the privilege of receiving the latest Android updates the moment they are ready. Hopefully, other manufacturers will be able to provide timely updates to their devices, or at least ship Android 7.0 updated with the latest security patches (unless that's too much to ask for?)

Slated for announcement on October 4, the pair of Pixel handsets sees a change in name from Nexus (as Google is looking to unify its hardware portfolio). In addition to top-shelf specs and updated Sony cameras, they are supposed to deliver at least two new software additions – the Nexus launcher and a new Google Assistant.

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23 Comments

1. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Pixel XL for me! I miss stock Android, oh man. Hopefully Android 7.1 pre-installed.

2. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Well, if you want Stock Android then you'd best go with last year's Nexus 6P. The Pixel phones are supposed to have additional customization to the interface and backend. I'm really curious to see what the differences will be, and if those options will be available to last year's Nexus phones.

4. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Yah, you got a point there. I could very well get all these enhancements in the Nexus 6P. My last Nexus was the LG Nexus 5. Are you still running the Marshmallow developper pre-view or the final Marshmallow firmware?

5. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Full release Nougat. Runs like a champ too.

7. Podrick

Posts: 1284; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

How's battery life for you now? Is doze fixed?

10. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Doze works amazing when your phone is motionless for prolonged periods of time. Otherwise I think the OS might actually consume more power while in motion than before the update, even if the display is off and in your pocket. I have not seen any performance enhancements with Doze over what was offered on Marshmallow. I have communicated this to Google, though I haven't ready about anyone else with the same observation so it's possible my situation is unique to me due to a particular app or combination of apps that I have installed preventing the phone from sleeping like it should. I would also like to note that I occasionally get a "No connection" message when clicking on a youtube video that I hadn't experienced before the final Nougat release, this is easily resolved by toggling the wi-fi off then on again. Aside from those two issues, everything else is peachy.

11. Podrick

Posts: 1284; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

I see. So you haven't read of similar situations? Anyway, hope Google fixes this soon. Also I'm glad that Nougat is working that good already. I expected earlier releases to have more bugs than this.

15. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Alright, so after a quick search, I have found that a large number of users are experiencing the very same issue with Doze that I described. It apparently can be resolved by doing a fresh install of the OS, it's all speculation at this point. One user reported getting near 3 days battery life from his phone once it was working properly, which I find believable if he's not a power user and if Doze works in motion as well as it does at a standstill.

6. Babadook

Posts: 230; Member since: May 24, 2016

Dumb question, but with the new Pixel phones will you most likely still be able to download Nova Launcher and all that fun stuff? Or is it more likely the phone will be more locked up or something?!

8. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to install a third party launcher, but I'm not an authority figure on the matter.

14. Feanor

Posts: 1346; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

...or not bother at all. Still waiting for Nougat update on my unlocked 5X two weeks after its release. Even Nexus updates are a laughing joke.

19. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

You can get it instantly instead of waiting for the OTA to come to your phone. Go to the Android beta preview portal and enroll. After that you get an update notification in 5-10 minutes. Once you're done, go back to the preview portal and and you can leave the beta program. Since this is a final release, you don't have to worry about having to do a factory reset like you would if you left the program while on a preview build. I did it last week and got the update within minutes.

24. Feanor

Posts: 1346; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

I know this very well, but just because there is this possibility of enrolling in the beta programme, it doesn't change the fact that the official update is not here. It's not that I can't wait for the update, it's just that I was expecting better from a Nexus.

22. Scott93274

Posts: 6032; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

Hmm, just food for thought, when Apple unveiled the features of their new OS, the vast majority of the new features were with the stock apps that come with the OS. With Android, we get updates all year round with any and all apps, while Apple has them only once a year. So with that in mind, Apple has a long way to go before it can catch up to Android in regards to updating their software. And if you don't know how to update a Nexus phone on time, maybe it's just a little too advanced for you.

3. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Now my phone can be 2 android revisions behind instead of one. And 85% of android users can be 3 revisions behind. Nice job Google.

12. lallolu

Posts: 732; Member since: Sep 18, 2012

So that is google's fault? I guesd you'd Esther prefer them to release new OS version every 2 years.

17. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

I was happy with one per year. But google just keeps releasing new OS one after the other and expects OEMs to follow at that pace. It's just not possible since there are so many devices. On top of that, google isn't even addressing that fragmentation exists, since they just update their 2-3 devices and get away with it.

20. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

The major updates come every year, the same as Apple. Yes there are more OEMs and devices, but what should they do? Stop updating the OS? Many of these OEMs still wouldn't update their devices, they seem to prefer to put the new update on new devices so you'll upgrade to get it. Now if you were talking about security patches, yes every month may be a bit much for some of them, but once a year for a major release? There's no excuse for these OEMs not to be able to keep up there. And btw, in the early years they used to be releasing major OS updates every 9 months IIRC, but they settled in to a once a year update model, so they've already scaled things back. And you have to remember, back then most of these companies only had a device or two each year and they still couldn't keep up. These OEMs need to pare down their lineup a bit. When Motorola was doing well with updates, they had three Motorola dreaded phones and a couple Droid models as well. How many devices has Samsung released this year? I'd bet at least three times that amount. If they had like 2 devices per category, aka 2 lowend, 2 midrange, and 2 flagship, that would be more than enough to cover everyone.

13. lallolu

Posts: 732; Member since: Sep 18, 2012

So that is google's fault? I guesd you'd rather prefer them to release new OS version every 2 years so you remain stagnant feature wise for 2 years.

16. sgodsell

Posts: 7208; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Just curious to which device you have, and what you are running now saractic_nerd. You should get rid of the nerd part, because you don't sound like a nerd to me and many others.

18. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Oneplus 3 currently. You obviously don't read my comments if you think that's true.

9. Sakeem

Posts: 857; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

The Pixel XL, or whatevr they decide on calling it, is the only phone I'm currently interested in. One month to go. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint. I may get a discounted Nexus 6P if the Pixel doesn't work for me.

21. JunitoNH

Posts: 1946; Member since: Feb 15, 2012

Exactly what I'm waiting for, no need to spend xtra cash. Keep an eye near the holiday season. Every OEM makes a push near or around Xmas.

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