LG plans to unlock the bootloader on future phones

LG plans to unlock the bootloader on future phones
LG has sent an email to XDA, alerting the group of modders to its future plans regarding unlocking the bootloader on future phones. The message was in response to a missive sent by XDA member Wolfgart, inquiring about an official solution from LG. The manufacturer replied that it is prepping a server to be used for a safer bootloader unlocking process.

According to the email from LG, they are trying to come up with a target time and device, to implement its bootloader unlocking strategy. While it might be a full flagship generation or two ahead of us, a current model like the LG G3 could be covered by whatever process LG decides on.

Unlocking the bootloader on your phone will allow you to install custom ROMs. And that is great for those who know what they are doing. The casual phone owner doesn't really need to concern himself with this. If you do unlock the bootloader on your phone, you will void the warranty on the handset. For those who know what they are doing, it is positive news that LG has apparently decided to move forward on this matter.


source: XDA via Phandroid

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46 Comments

1. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Good to see that LG realizes that supporting the developer community helps them. Too bad Samsung seems to have gone down the "totally locked phone" rabbithole and disappeared down there somewhere. Some of this is due to the carriers, but ultimately, it really is Samsung's issue to fix.

2. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Where can't you unlock Samsung phones? Aside from the lousy Att and Verizon that forbid any unlocking, they are just as unlockable as ever.

12. ikenvape

Posts: 309; Member since: May 28, 2014

Strategy Analytics (Q4 2012): 1 Verizon Wireless: 115.780 million 2 AT&T: 106.957 million 3 Sprint Nextel: 55.306 million 4 T-Mobile: 33.388 million

19. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I'm was able to root my S5 for T-Mobile but chose not to. I really didn't need to plus Samsung would have denied my warranty request for a repair.

3. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

even nexus phones have a locked bootloader, and guess who nexus phones are geared towards? OMG! the developer community you think LG is supporting by unlocking the bootloader. if they do unlock it in the future to please this "developer community", XDA, there will be so much bad press against LG regarding security that the average consumer wouldn't come near an LG. There's a reason Samsung is number one, they see security has become an issue, and they spend resources on fixing that with Knox, and if that leads to a locked bootloader, the average consumer wouldn't care, but he'd be happy to have a baked in solution.

4. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"even nexus phones have a locked bootloader, and guess who nexus phones are geared towards? OMG! the developer community" Uh, and via adb anyone can unlock it. " if they do unlock it in the future to please this "developer community", XDA, there will be so much bad press against LG regarding security that the average consumer wouldn't come near an LG." Really? Where's all that bad press when Moto and HTC did it? "There's a reason Samsung is number one, they see security has become an issue, and they spend resources on fixing that with Knox, and if that leads to a locked bootloader, the average consumer wouldn't care, but he'd be happy to have a baked in solution." Knox is more than just bootloader security. While the purpose of it fits its intended target, you still with their non carrier products can unlock if you want.

5. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

"via adb anyone can unlock it" are just proving my point or what? it does not come unlocked and you have to unlock it just like any other phone. HTC and Moto phones come with unlocked bootloaders? not in my country, and i doubt that's a true statement, maybe allow it to be unlocked, but delivering the phone unlocked? that's a stretch http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader read that, and i'm not even going to bother and search for moto's policy because i'm guessing they want to be sold by carriers. i know exactly what knox is, the keypoint in that sentence is "if that leads to a locked bootloader..." now for a final point, i maybe stupid for actually responding to you because you seem to just want to oppose every comment on the site, thinking you're the smart one in the room.

10. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

""via adb anyone can unlock it" are just proving my point or what? it does not come unlocked and you have to unlock it just like any other phone." No I'm not. Being able to do that, easily, without any external website or other hoops is a far cry from never being able to do it like apple. "HTC and Moto phones come with unlocked bootloaders? not in my country, and i doubt that's a true statement, maybe allow it to be unlocked, but delivering the phone unlocked? that's a stretch " Well maybe instead of acting ignorant you can, you know, check out Motorola's bootloader unlock page. The only models not unlockable are the typical att and verizon models. However, they offer dev editions, just like Samsung that can work on verizon and be unlocked. Moto doesn't void the warranty on them either. "i know exactly what knox is, the keypoint in that sentence is "if that leads to a locked bootloader..." Which shows you don't know what you are talking about. KNOX can be completely absent from a Samsung phone as in Moto's case and still provide a very high degree of protection. Knox is just a fancy name for "we implemented ARM's trusted zone" and then some. "now for a final point, i maybe stupid for actually responding to you because you seem to just want to oppose every comment on the site, thinking you're the smart one in the room." No, you are just showing yourself to be ignorant, so either do some research before posting wrong information or shut up. You haven't addressed the original point showing that you were wrong to begin with.

13. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

dude i swear your reading comprehension is really sad. please read each of the lines you quoted me on and then your response, and ask yourself if you make sense. the facts are simple my friend: 1- no android phone comes with an unlocked bootloader, i don't care if it's easy to unlock it or not. none come with an unlocked bootloader. that is all. 2- you keep proving my point, you're saying the dev edition has an unlocked bootloader, now tell me how many people walk into verizon and ask for one? 3- the reason i didn't search for moto is because you said htc came with unlocked bootloaders and then the first google result was an official statement saying otherwise, therfore, it's only normal i don't spend my time on what you said 4-are you serious? a phone with an unlocked bootloader is not a protected one. is everything addressed now? if you have anymore questions, i can gladly answer.

18. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"1- no android phone comes with an unlocked bootloader, i don't care if it's easy to unlock it or not. none come with an unlocked bootloader. that is all." Not true. Plenty of them have, like the Galaxy Exhibit 4G. Want to install anything on it? It didn't care one bit. "2- you keep proving my point, you're saying the dev edition has an unlocked bootloader, now tell me how many people walk into verizon and ask for one?" Those who are smart enough to know better. Btw, it still is locked, but you are given the keys so to speak. "3- the reason i didn't search for moto is because you said htc came with unlocked bootloaders and then the first google result was an official statement saying otherwise, therfore, it's only normal i don't spend my time on what you said" Moto has established their unlock program for a few generations. "4-are you serious? a phone with an unlocked bootloader is not a protected one. " Which isn't what I said. Knox is more than just locking the boot loader for the 3rd time. Sure my moto g isn't protected anymore but I'm not worried about it.

22. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

1- galaxy exhibit 4g hahahah wow, just wow. let's bring up a phone from 2011 in response to me talking about the present. really smart argument. 2- those who are smart? like i said earlier, you think you're the smart one in the room for some reason and everyone else gets patronized by your inner genius. 3-i do not care what moto has done for a few generations, get your facts right the first time. they are not supporting jack, in fact, if you unlock the bootloader your warranty is void. very nice support. more like letting people act stupid at their own risk, which is understandable, but nowhere have i found a single OEM authorize or give a hint a hint of encouragement for users to unlock it because it's not safe for either party. 4-again, i know what knox is, but without a locked bootloader, knox is nothing. i really enjoy your comments, you truly make me feel like an above average smart person.

25. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

1. Current ZTE phones, even on att, are rumored to be totally unlocked as well. Cannot confirm this without a sample 2. Who else would even care to buy a dev device? The general public has no want nor need to install custom roms. 3. Wrong again: " If you are ready to accept all the implications of unlocking the bootloader, which -except for Developer Edition devices- includes completely voiding your device's warranty, then let's get started."https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Sony and HTC state that unlocking *may* void the warranty but do not flat out cancel it like moto does on non dev devices. 4. True, not withstanding your sarcasm if intended. Because you really aren't that above avg whatsoever.

23. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

26. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"" If you are ready to accept all the implications of unlocking the bootloader, which -***except for Developer Edition devices***- includes completely voiding your device's warranty, then let's get started." What part of that can you not understand?

28. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

you claim that moto are supporting it. how are they supporting unlocking the bootloader if your warranty vanishes? luckily i have no more time for this. have a nice day man :D

39. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Dude you can't even fcking comprehend one sentence. Good day.

43. critofur

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 28, 2010

You're ignoring his quite valid point - telling a customer "your warranty will be void" is basically the opposite of "supporting" your customer who does not want a phone which is essentially garbage (if a phone has a locked boot loader, it's hardly even "your" phone really). I would literally rather not even have a cell phone, than have to tolerate one which I am not able to do such things as: remove unwanted bloat ware, disable communications which I do not authorize or desire, and last but not least: block obnoxious unwanted ads. I've actually had a forum open and tried to type and had adds come into the page causing it to re-arrange MULTIPLE times and put my text entry window out of view or cause me to click the add because I was TRYING to click on the text box whilst the ad suddenly appeared under my finger.

7. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

"even nexus phones have a locked bootloader, and guess who nexus phones are geared towards?" It was XDA developers who asked LG to unlock the bootloader. Nexus phones are not geared specifically towards developers making custom ROMs, they are geared towards developers who need the latest Android build. And even then, the bootloader can be unlocked easily by a developer. "...if they do unlock it in the future to please this "developer community", XDA, there will be so much bad press against LG regarding security that the average consumer wouldn't come near an LG." The "average consumer" is just a strawman. People who like mods, ROMs, root, etc. are a diverse set of people, all over the world. Some of them are just "average Joe" and some aren't. "There's a reason Samsung is number one, they see security has become an issue, and they spend resources on fixing that with Knox, and if that leads to a locked bootloader, the average consumer wouldn't care, but he'd be happy to have a baked in solution." Samsung has admitted KNOX is basically a failure, used on not even 2% of the phones they sell with it. So Samsung shafted 98% of those customers because they were lazy and wanted all their phones to come with some enterprise crap that most people don't care about. Instead of making it some optional and installable feature or making a "Galaxy S5E" for the enterprise. As Samsung couldn't figure out how to make KNOX play nice, they turned it over to Google for future inclusion in some more secure version of Android.

15. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

TL;DR but i guess you're one of those kids who want change the color of the clock in the status bar to which you found a mod in XDA and from there on out, XDA dev skillzzz were the bestest eva for you. XDA does not represent the developer community.

17. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

There you go again, setting up a strawman to tear someone down. Post something with substance or sod off.

21. Reality_Check

Posts: 277; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Your level of ignorance regarding Android rooting, mods, kernels, smali editing, etc. astounds me. And XDA doesn't represent Android developers? Again, welcome to the world of utter bliss in ignorance.

24. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

sorry to break it to you, yes XDA is a community of hackers and not developers. know the difference.

27. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

WTF? Making a generic aosp rom work on various phones is the very fcking definition of developing.

29. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

hacking.

31. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

@sprockkets -- You get a gold star for effort. But some people will drown before they drink from the river of knowledge.

44. critofur

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 28, 2010

To me, buying a $600 phone and being told that I must tolerate a locked boot loader is like buying a fine dinner, but being told that I have no choice but to accept a few little bits of excrement sprinkled on it.

6. nebsif

Posts: 37; Member since: Jul 27, 2014

lol sammy phones are the easiest to unlock and root (Odin mode).

9. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

This was true in the past, but hasn't been true for some time, especially for the phones Samsung sells via ATT/VZW. Witness the giant bounty for an S5 root, i.e. towelroot.

11. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Which is how it should be. Don't like it? Buy Samsung's Verizon Dev model. Or better yet, don't support Att or Verizon if you can.

14. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

There is some rationale to voting with your feet/checkbook. However, why do you think it should it be this way? I buy a phone and pay full price for it, and I shouldn't be able to root my phone? As much as telecom unlocking is legal, why shouldn't rooting be legal as well? What about consumers who live in areas where they only get ATT service? There is no developer model phone. Maybe they can get a T-Mobile phone and root it, but that means figuring out how to buy a retail S5 from T-Mobile at full price. Not all T-Mobile stores are friendly to that.

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