LG plans to unlock the bootloader on future phones

LG plans to unlock the bootloader on future phones
LG has sent an email to XDA, alerting the group of modders to its future plans regarding unlocking the bootloader on future phones. The message was in response to a missive sent by XDA member Wolfgart, inquiring about an official solution from LG. The manufacturer replied that it is prepping a server to be used for a safer bootloader unlocking process.

According to the email from LG, they are trying to come up with a target time and device, to implement its bootloader unlocking strategy. While it might be a full flagship generation or two ahead of us, a current model like the LG G3 could be covered by whatever process LG decides on.

Unlocking the bootloader on your phone will allow you to install custom ROMs. And that is great for those who know what they are doing. The casual phone owner doesn't really need to concern himself with this. If you do unlock the bootloader on your phone, you will void the warranty on the handset. For those who know what they are doing, it is positive news that LG has apparently decided to move forward on this matter.


source: XDA via Phandroid

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46 Comments

42. alex235

Posts: 8; Member since: Jul 29, 2014

Well, you can read this review at UseMyReviews as well.

41. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1292; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

Now I may buy my first LG phone... (I have skipped Nexus 4 and 5 for their tiny batteries)..

36. brasstax

Posts: 546; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Guys I have a question. Does rooting a phone automatically unlock the boot loader or do we require ban unlocked boot loader to be able to root in the first place? I have a Chinese 7 inch phablet based on quad core mt8382 soc. I was able to root it with one click using Framaroot. Does this mean the boot loader is now unlocked? Or are rooting & boot loader unlocking 2 completely different things? Pardon me for asking all these Qs. Thing is I have read in a couple of places that the mt8382 is capable of running at 1.6ghz but is under clocked to 1.3ghz as it is meant for budget/lower mid range tablets. I want to flash a custom kernel that will allow me to 'over clock' it back to 1.6ghz. I guess an unlocked boot boot loader is a must for this??

40. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Usually you need to unlock bootloader then root but some can do it the other way. Without a custom recovery I wouldn't be flashing anything as if you can't make a nandroid/backup, you've nothing to fall back on if stuff goes wrong. YMMV, but I'd invest some more time inquiring about how safeguard or make a back up, then flashing.

30. domfonusr

Posts: 1106; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

What good is unlocking the bootloader if you can't get root? This is the only thing I am having problems with on the LG Viper from Sprint. No way to actually get root that sticks - 'security mode' triggers each and every time. I've tried three different exploits, and nothing has worked yet. Forums are full of posts by folks having the same problem with the same device... apparently, once you get ICS on it, you'll never get root ever again. I'm just lucky that I haven't bricked the thing yet with so many attempts...

32. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

There are root methods that work on many phones if you can unlock the bootloader. This is one reason why unlocking the bootloader is important, especially for new phone models which might not have a exploit type root method yet.

33. domfonusr

Posts: 1106; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Understood. And, as far as I've read, the only way to unlock the bootloader on this thing I have is to root it first. According to what I've read so far, the only way to root it reliably is to downgrade to Gingerbread, which is ridiculous, and I won't step down to Gingerbread just to get root. Now, I was holding out hope that the ICS Universal Root developed by XDA would do the trick, but it also failed. I got an "error reading partition", and then it came back without root and with 'security mode' triggered. And I have the dreaded 'ZVK' software build that can't seem to be cracked by anybody. Android was sort of fun for the first few months that I had an Android device, as I started to play with Android apps, run Python scripts on my phone, and play with the developer settings, but then I started discovering things that could not be done, and now it is just a little maddening. I could build my own custom ROM's with Symbian, and flash them onto my old Nokia phones, but this LG LS840 "Viper" with Android... daaahhhh! I wanted to like Android, but I find myself liking it less, and being less interested in trying to keep up with the modding and things that I used to do. I am a bit frustrated.

34. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Don't judge all of android off of a single older phone! I never heard of this Viper before, non gsm explains it well to me though. CDMA is usually a graveyard of phone models. Sorry, I mean there's little interest to Dev for them as not many will rock it. Need something more main stream sorry to say, if you want full usage of.

35. domfonusr

Posts: 1106; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Well, it is just as well, I guess. I never actually bought the phone - it was given to me by a friend after they were done with it, and I have just been playing around with it. I don't actually have Sprint service, so I have just been using it on WiFi, and doing whatever I can without cellular connection. You are right... I shouldn't judge all of Android based on just this one device, but it just seems like, if it is Android, then it should behave like other Android phones on some level. I'm sure other Android phones can be rooted, but why this one has a critical error during every root attempt, and then comes up in 'security mode', is beyond me. I have not done any modding in a while, and I'm not really looking to get back into it, but it was just one of those things where I figured since I now have a device, it was worth a shot just for the sake of doing it. It was just frustrating to think that somebody gave me something that I thought I could explore and have fun with, only to find out that there were limits that I had not anticipated. Now, I don't have lots of money to be throwing around buying devices to play with, nor do I have the means to be buying a new device between upgrades, nor do I really have the absolute need to pay for an expensive data plan at this time, so I have no plans to replace either the Viper or my regular use feature phone. The Viper just isn't as fun, now that I've reached the limits of what can really be done with it.

37. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Gotcha, that sucks its the only opportunity you have right now. Sadly its not a more popular model to draw focus of Dev grunt to unlock it fully. Hopefully things change an you get a better phone to muck with.

38. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Root nowadays is getting harder and harder. Not sure about LG but sounds as if they prevent tampering with the /system partition even if you get root, which is what HTC and Moto do. You want that - otherwise malware can mess up your phone and the only fix is a complete image rewrite.

46. critofur

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 28, 2010

Locked = bricked. A phone which is locked, is WORSE than useless.

8. Vexify

Posts: 570; Member since: Jun 16, 2014

Life is good :) Ty LG!

6. nebsif

Posts: 37; Member since: Jul 27, 2014

lol sammy phones are the easiest to unlock and root (Odin mode).

9. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

This was true in the past, but hasn't been true for some time, especially for the phones Samsung sells via ATT/VZW. Witness the giant bounty for an S5 root, i.e. towelroot.

11. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Which is how it should be. Don't like it? Buy Samsung's Verizon Dev model. Or better yet, don't support Att or Verizon if you can.

14. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

There is some rationale to voting with your feet/checkbook. However, why do you think it should it be this way? I buy a phone and pay full price for it, and I shouldn't be able to root my phone? As much as telecom unlocking is legal, why shouldn't rooting be legal as well? What about consumers who live in areas where they only get ATT service? There is no developer model phone. Maybe they can get a T-Mobile phone and root it, but that means figuring out how to buy a retail S5 from T-Mobile at full price. Not all T-Mobile stores are friendly to that.

16. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

I agree on the point that carriers shouldn't be able to stop people from unlocking, or at the very least, allow unlocking after payment. But I don't want a bootloader locked phone to be hacked either. In the case of Moto's Moto X, there is a dev Att version. Or if you buy the phone outright, it is unlockable but you lose the warranty. But every phone you can buy outright is unlockable, except maybe LG's because I have no first hand experience with them, yet :)

20. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

If they've net, they can always order from play store.

45. critofur

Posts: 10; Member since: Jun 28, 2010

I stopped giving Verizon any of my money years ago. It is quite unfortunate that the competition is so limited here in the USA! If companies insist that they must be allowed to sell locked phones, at minimum, they should be required by law to provide a tool built into the phone's firmware which facilitates easy unlocking, once a customer is shown a disclaimer and clicks the "Unlock Anyway" button.

1. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Good to see that LG realizes that supporting the developer community helps them. Too bad Samsung seems to have gone down the "totally locked phone" rabbithole and disappeared down there somewhere. Some of this is due to the carriers, but ultimately, it really is Samsung's issue to fix.

2. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

Where can't you unlock Samsung phones? Aside from the lousy Att and Verizon that forbid any unlocking, they are just as unlockable as ever.

12. ikenvape

Posts: 310; Member since: May 28, 2014

Strategy Analytics (Q4 2012): 1 Verizon Wireless: 115.780 million 2 AT&T: 106.957 million 3 Sprint Nextel: 55.306 million 4 T-Mobile: 33.388 million

19. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I'm was able to root my S5 for T-Mobile but chose not to. I really didn't need to plus Samsung would have denied my warranty request for a repair.

3. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

even nexus phones have a locked bootloader, and guess who nexus phones are geared towards? OMG! the developer community you think LG is supporting by unlocking the bootloader. if they do unlock it in the future to please this "developer community", XDA, there will be so much bad press against LG regarding security that the average consumer wouldn't come near an LG. There's a reason Samsung is number one, they see security has become an issue, and they spend resources on fixing that with Knox, and if that leads to a locked bootloader, the average consumer wouldn't care, but he'd be happy to have a baked in solution.

4. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"even nexus phones have a locked bootloader, and guess who nexus phones are geared towards? OMG! the developer community" Uh, and via adb anyone can unlock it. " if they do unlock it in the future to please this "developer community", XDA, there will be so much bad press against LG regarding security that the average consumer wouldn't come near an LG." Really? Where's all that bad press when Moto and HTC did it? "There's a reason Samsung is number one, they see security has become an issue, and they spend resources on fixing that with Knox, and if that leads to a locked bootloader, the average consumer wouldn't care, but he'd be happy to have a baked in solution." Knox is more than just bootloader security. While the purpose of it fits its intended target, you still with their non carrier products can unlock if you want.

5. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

"via adb anyone can unlock it" are just proving my point or what? it does not come unlocked and you have to unlock it just like any other phone. HTC and Moto phones come with unlocked bootloaders? not in my country, and i doubt that's a true statement, maybe allow it to be unlocked, but delivering the phone unlocked? that's a stretch http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader read that, and i'm not even going to bother and search for moto's policy because i'm guessing they want to be sold by carriers. i know exactly what knox is, the keypoint in that sentence is "if that leads to a locked bootloader..." now for a final point, i maybe stupid for actually responding to you because you seem to just want to oppose every comment on the site, thinking you're the smart one in the room.

10. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

""via adb anyone can unlock it" are just proving my point or what? it does not come unlocked and you have to unlock it just like any other phone." No I'm not. Being able to do that, easily, without any external website or other hoops is a far cry from never being able to do it like apple. "HTC and Moto phones come with unlocked bootloaders? not in my country, and i doubt that's a true statement, maybe allow it to be unlocked, but delivering the phone unlocked? that's a stretch " Well maybe instead of acting ignorant you can, you know, check out Motorola's bootloader unlock page. The only models not unlockable are the typical att and verizon models. However, they offer dev editions, just like Samsung that can work on verizon and be unlocked. Moto doesn't void the warranty on them either. "i know exactly what knox is, the keypoint in that sentence is "if that leads to a locked bootloader..." Which shows you don't know what you are talking about. KNOX can be completely absent from a Samsung phone as in Moto's case and still provide a very high degree of protection. Knox is just a fancy name for "we implemented ARM's trusted zone" and then some. "now for a final point, i maybe stupid for actually responding to you because you seem to just want to oppose every comment on the site, thinking you're the smart one in the room." No, you are just showing yourself to be ignorant, so either do some research before posting wrong information or shut up. You haven't addressed the original point showing that you were wrong to begin with.

13. hassoups

Posts: 473; Member since: Jun 06, 2013

dude i swear your reading comprehension is really sad. please read each of the lines you quoted me on and then your response, and ask yourself if you make sense. the facts are simple my friend: 1- no android phone comes with an unlocked bootloader, i don't care if it's easy to unlock it or not. none come with an unlocked bootloader. that is all. 2- you keep proving my point, you're saying the dev edition has an unlocked bootloader, now tell me how many people walk into verizon and ask for one? 3- the reason i didn't search for moto is because you said htc came with unlocked bootloaders and then the first google result was an official statement saying otherwise, therfore, it's only normal i don't spend my time on what you said 4-are you serious? a phone with an unlocked bootloader is not a protected one. is everything addressed now? if you have anymore questions, i can gladly answer.

18. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"1- no android phone comes with an unlocked bootloader, i don't care if it's easy to unlock it or not. none come with an unlocked bootloader. that is all." Not true. Plenty of them have, like the Galaxy Exhibit 4G. Want to install anything on it? It didn't care one bit. "2- you keep proving my point, you're saying the dev edition has an unlocked bootloader, now tell me how many people walk into verizon and ask for one?" Those who are smart enough to know better. Btw, it still is locked, but you are given the keys so to speak. "3- the reason i didn't search for moto is because you said htc came with unlocked bootloaders and then the first google result was an official statement saying otherwise, therfore, it's only normal i don't spend my time on what you said" Moto has established their unlock program for a few generations. "4-are you serious? a phone with an unlocked bootloader is not a protected one. " Which isn't what I said. Knox is more than just locking the boot loader for the 3rd time. Sure my moto g isn't protected anymore but I'm not worried about it.

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