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WSJ: Apple has begun receiving A8 processor shipments from TSMC

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WSJ: Apple has begun receiving A8 processor shipments from TSMC
According to the Wall Street Journal, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co is already shipping the next generation of A-processors for Apple's upcoming smartphones and tablets. Furthermore, the companies have negotiated working together on additional projects for next year, including 16-nanometer chip manufacturing technology, which TSMC wants to deploy in 2015.

According to the publication, both Apple and TSMC have marked a success with the deal for manufacturing the forward-thinking chips. Working with both TSMC and Samsung means Apple will have more leverage in price negotiations, while the Taiwanese chip-maker receives a high-profile customer that will invest in its research activities and significantly boost its revenue. Analysts say Apple's orders could account for 10% of the manufacturer's 2014 revenue.

Previously, we reported that last quarter, TSMC began mass production of the 20-nanometer A8 chip ahead of schedule. Allegedly, hundreds of engineers were dispatched from Taiwan towards Apple's headquarters in Cupertino to ensure the quality of production.

The quantity of shipments hasn't been detailed, but rumors from China and Taiwan swing numbers as high as 68 million iPhone 6 orders for 2014. This is 17 million more than the 51 million iPhone 5S units Apple sold in the last quarter of 2013 alone. It's not known whether Apple has ordered only 4.7-inch iPhones, or both 4.7-inch and 5.5-inch models. It is certain, however, that the company is preparing to meet another round of high demand for its smartphone.

source: WSJ

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posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:36 7

1. Iodine (Posts: 364; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


So here is the Apple A8..... game over.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:37 4

2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8190; Member since: 14 May 2012)


All I know is this chip is going to crush everything on the market until the 810 arrives.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:48 4

4. Busyboy (Posts: 288; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Doubt it will crush the 808 or K1. But it sure is powerful

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:00

6. Iodine (Posts: 364; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


A8 will be at least 2x after than A7. That "most advanced mobile processor" is 2,1-2,3 x A7 and so power hungry you possibly can't put it into a phone.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:48

9. TylerGrunter (Posts: 905; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I seriously doubt a 2x performance increase in CPU, but even with a 50% they'll crush any other mobile chip.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:14

10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8190; Member since: 14 May 2012)


All next gen chips are 2x faster than their successor. I'm curious to know which PowerVR GPU they'll be using this year.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 14:10

22. TylerGrunter (Posts: 905; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I have no doubts they´ll double the GPU performance, but I doubt they will manage to 2x in CPU. That would put the iphone in the range of the current Intel i5 ULV socks both in GPU and CPU. Too much heat to dissipate even at 20nm.
50% is the limit (IMHO), but we´ll see in the benchmarks.
I bet on the PowerVR GX6650 for the GPU

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 14:20 3

23. Busyboy (Posts: 288; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


"All next Gen chips are 2x faster than their successor."

You meant 2x faster than their predecessor right? lol

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 17:29

25. max9777 (Posts: 70; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)


You sound like Tim cook right now. Every time he goes on live TV every new Iphone is 2x the powerful than the previous one... Apple is a great advertisement company!! :)

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:43 1

8. TylerGrunter (Posts: 905; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Sad, but true...
It's the only 20nm chip in mobile, so they have now one node advantage over Qualcomm or Tegra.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 11:38 2

14. jove39 (Posts: 1278; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Crush Everything?

If apple engineers have sane mind they'll work on efficiency on cpu/os and boost power of gpu to support more pixels, instead of powering cpu to notebook levels just to be throttled after few minutes of use! With continuos use A7 drops to 800Mhz from 1.3-1.4 Ghz.

Does any one remember apple cut down A7's memory bandwidth in half from it's previous generation chip A6x...but A7 was still faster by being more efficient with use of SRAM.

S810 is qualcomm's hush-hush plan...they were lazy on 64bit plans until apple throw A7 on every soc manufacturer's face...I hope qualcomm is working on new 64 bit cpu core with higher IPC like apple's cyclone and nvidia's denver.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 13:48 1

21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8190; Member since: 14 May 2012)


If history repeats itself, Apple will be ahead once again. Just wait and see.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 12:03

15. JakeLee (Posts: 1001; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


While Qualcomm managed to go its own way with the ARMv7, they are stuck with the reference design with ARMv8. (big.LITTLE configuration)

That makes Apple the only one that custom designs its SoCs from ARMv8 on.

And ARM's reference big.LITTLE configuration is sh!t :
Only benchmarks run on the "big" CA57, while the real apps run on the "LITTLE" CA53.

And since even Qualcomm is out of this custom design bandwagon now, Android is Scroogled.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 13:01 1

18. jove39 (Posts: 1278; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


"Apple the only one that custom designs its SoCs from ARMv8 on"

heard of nvidia's denver core? Tegra K1?

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 13:04

19. JakeLee (Posts: 1001; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


nVidia is pretty much out of this business already.

I don't trust a thing nVidia says about Tegra.

There hasn't been a single Tegra that meant something.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 18:58

27. Furbal (Posts: 293; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


^^^
Nvidia is only good at their Convention demos.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 17:59

26. kryme (Posts: 140; Member since: 24 Oct 2013)


really... if u should put the a8 in a s5 the numbers speed and everything will be disappointing.... but put the s801in the 5s and u see real power... point is ios7 and 8 is so light anything u put in it will show good performance.... s800 will still be far better than the a8 its just that ios8 is very light

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:43

3. Sreddy (Posts: 55; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


cant wait for the official release!

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 08:52 2

5. darkkjedii (Posts: 11046; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


The hydrogen bomb is starting to arrive. Won't be long now, camp out time.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:14 1

11. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8190; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Dark, I don't know if you've checked the date today but you're two months early for that lol.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:44

12. darkkjedii (Posts: 11046; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


C'mon bro, don't remind me lol. It's a long enough wait as is. +1
What's next for you Smurf?

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 13:47

20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8190; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Note 4!

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 09:05

7. vishalaestro (Posts: 41; Member since: 08 Dec 2013)


i just wonder intel was always ahead of the processor architecture as far as smartphones and tables are concerned but sadly they can't match the battery efficiency of it's counter parts,seems the CISC based architecture will consume more power regardless of die shrink and efficiency advancements.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 12:12

16. JakeLee (Posts: 1001; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Intel's x86 ISA is from 197x for God's sake!!!!

After the Itanium fiasco, Intel stopped trying to get rid of this zombie architecture.

And it now costs Intel the mobile market.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 14:22 1

24. a_merryman (Posts: 667; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Intel's chips have matched ARM designs on battery efficiency for a couple years now. Not the Core series, but the atom series.

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 10:53

13. karamelakimo (Posts: 57; Member since: 26 May 2014)


i wish if there is any rumors about the spec of this processor !!
I guess it may be a quad processor with clock speed of 1.5-.1.8Ghz and may be 1.5-2GB ram
and above 2 clock speed is too far in my opinion cause it will be hungry for a battery and apple said that the new processor will focus mainly in battery consumption not speed
we have to wait and see :)

posted on 10 Jul 2014, 12:24 1

17. alaw.14 (Posts: 131; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)


A8 vs SD805, Tegra k1, Exynos 5433, SD808, SD810. There is going to be some rough competition this year.

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