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Survey finds majority of Americans don't side with Apple

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Survey finds majority of Americans don't side with Apple
As popular as Apple is in the U.S., a survey conducted by Pew Research Center found that a majority of the public supports the government in its current legal battle with Apple. According to the survey, 51% of Americans think that Apple should create the "unique" version of iOS required to unlock the Apple iPhone 5c that belonged to deceased terrorist Syed Farook. 38% say that Apple should not unlock the handset, while 11% did not give an opinion.

Political affiliation does not appear to make a difference on one's opinion. 56% of Republicans and 55% of Democrats say Apple should unlock the phone. Independents are basically split, with 45% of them saying that Apple should create the software and unlock the phone; 42% disagree.

Age apparently does have some effect on how you stand on this issue. Those 18-29 years of age favor the government's stance by a 47%-43% margin. Those who believe Apple should unlock the phone rose to 51% of Americans aged 30-49 and 50-64. 54% of respondents 65 years of age and older support the government's position.

Interestingly, 50% of smartphone owners side with the government (vs.41% who agree with Apple). While more iPhone users think that Apple should bow to the court order, it was a close vote (47%-43% in favor of unlocking the phone). 53% of those with another brand of smartphone say that Apple should produce the version of iOS demanded by the feds, while 38% disagree. And by a 52%-33% margin, those who do not own a smartphone think Apple should cave.

What is your opinion? You can see if you match up to the 1002 adults questioned by Pew by clicking on the slideshow to view the results of the survey.


source: Pew via WSJ

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posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:36 3

1. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 522; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


pa you should run a vote to see how us phone geeks feel as a community

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 02:15 14

19. CoastCity (Posts: 247; Member since: 07 Mar 2014)


They did that already. I don't believe paid and fixed surveys. I am with Apple on this and it should hold by any lawful way its current stance. Sure, in the end they' ll reconcile. The government won't accept to look like it is in a weak position anymore. Hence the "independent surveys"

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 03:26 4

23. Finalflash (Posts: 2725; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


It may not paid or anything sinister. It's just that people don't understand tech and what backdoors mean for encryption and security.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 04:12

27. neops (Posts: 284; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)


I bet your flash, the one doesn't exclude the other

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:01 1

54. natypes (Posts: 1043; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


So you just believe what you want no matter what? No surprise, that's how most people who side with apple think.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:12 3

68. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Believing what you want goes hand in hand with freedom. Are we to believe the government and FBI on everything they tell us? Like sheep or cattle being led to the slaughter house?

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 04:37 5

29. Good-Is-Better (Posts: 70; Member since: 12 Nov 2015)


It's a good thing that the majority of Americans don't support terrorism. Supporting Apple is supporting terrorism. Lets see. If Apple wins this case, be sure get more terrorist operations. If those guys have been able to use the iphone to plan their terrorist acts without being caught and now they can't even be disclosed because of the so called protecting "encryption and security". I don't even understand this delima, keeping "encryption and security" to hide a terrorist and possibly his co terrorists that are still running around. This is something that one will take more than understanding to decipher.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:38 5

34. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


So that means whoever is supporting Apple, is supporting terrorism. They don't care about America or their siblings.

And the ones whose supporting Apple still hates terrorist. what BS. Hypocrite two faced double standards. Dumbass morons.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 08:06 5

45. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Yeah ok. You just keep living in that 'safe-little-bubble' that you think the government is providing you. But just think for a moment...if the government stopped terrorising us, how could they sway the public's opinion on justifying the amount they spend on war? The government is behind/funding terrorism (think 9/11 for an example) and the FBI already knows everything they need to know...except how to crack an iPhone. If you want to stop terrorism you need to stop giving into the government and make a stand for our rights and freedom's. I'll give you another example - If you're okay with the government peeking in your windows 'in-the-name-of-seeking-terrorists', then you should be fine if I peek in your windows to watch you sleep (and maybe even borrow your wife for a couple hours) - I'd make sure to bring her back to you with a bug smile on her face not to worry. :)

So...what's your address? Don't worry...I work for the government. ;)

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 08:49

50. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Lol that impact would cause Apple shares to decline. This company should not be around. It needs to be faded away, just like Nokia.

What's wrong with that? Let them spy. What have you got to hide.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:12 1

58. SYSTEM_LORD (Posts: 312; Member since: 05 Oct 2015)


Their traffic on pornographic websites. That's what most of these people are talking about. To be honest, I've had older people tell me that you shouldn't keep anything in a phone that you wouldn't feel safe leaving in the street. People need to stop trusting this tech anyways. Most of us on this site don't have anything anyone wants to see anyways...they just back this stuff because they want to seem as if they have something important to hide!

Keep your important information physical and on your person, for God's sake.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 13:48 1

83. marorun (Posts: 2899; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


My phone is part physical and on my person.

Also permiting this backdoor would creat the way to have all electronic computers ect have similar backdoor.

And most backdoor can be opened by hackers.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 07:41

105. xavysp (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Feb 2016)


What you think in Liberty?

I bileive the communism comes to the USA people if FBI unlock iPhones

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:02

55. natypes (Posts: 1043; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


go back to inforwars. I'm glad I don't have a mental illness.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:17 4

69. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Alex Jones is too full of himself...I'll pass thank-you. But I like your analogy though...me being a free thinker automatically means I have a mental illness lol. The government has you right where they want you...under their control. 'You can't really see anything unless you're willing to open your eyes'.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:08

66. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


None of what you posted has anything to do with the question at hand. 0. How does catching a terrorist after they are dead and after their property is in evidence room equal to you f**king someones wife?

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 13:21

82. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Let me say it another way then. If you give the FBI permission to look through your phone whenever they please, then you shouldn't have any problem with me looking through it as well. Not to worry....my only interest is acquiring your wife's phone number. I work for the government so that means you can trust me explicitly. :)

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 14:49

95. Good-Is-Better (Posts: 70; Member since: 12 Nov 2015)


You are mad. Haha, I would prefer you watch how I sleep with my wife so that you can do same to yours. But, having a night with her is just a terrorist act to our marriage. So, if the government seem to be more dangerous than the terrorists like you insinuate, why don't we do away with the government and stay like that. If you suspect that the government cannot be trusted what makes you think Apple should be trusted. They are keeping information that is helping to protect the terrorist. What does your law says about who ever fails to denounce a terrorist?

So, what's your suggestion? That Apple should bar the government and keep the terrorist information? What is the next victim is your lovely wife, son or daughter?
You must give away something to get another. As it stand now, either you keep your encryption and accept terrorist, or you give trust to your government and forget about freedom.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 16:41

96. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Well said. That's what I said. +1

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 19:27

100. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Well if it bothers you it could be arranged so you don't need to know about it then, but I've always preferred the open and honest concept when it comes to wife swapping.

I wasn't trying to say that the government is more dangerous than the terrorists...the government is most likely behind most if not all terrorist activity. They've done a very good job of turning mankind against itself...this world is full of so much hate and greed it's sickening. I'd be up for doing away with our one centralized (all powerful) government so we can try to learn and govern ourselves. I've never said that apple can be trusted. I can't root for both them and the fbi at the same time on this matter, so my gut is telling me to fight for whatever rights we have left because at the rate we're giving them away there won't be anything left for our kids generations. Try to look at the big picture, and while you're at it try to come up with some valid reasons why these so called 'terrorists' are pissed off to begin with. My laws were written by greedy men of power that we appointed for some stupid reason.

My suggestion? Yes apple should bar the government from having unrestricted access to everyone's iPhone. McAfee offered to hack the phone in question for free which sounds perfectly rational and sensible to me, and the fbi's reluctance to take that offer sounds way too fishy to me. If something happened to my daughter or wife the situation I'm sure would have been handled alot differently...and they most likely wouldn't have suddenly needed access to everyone's phone. Hypothetical question: How would you and everyone else have reacted to this whole thing if (instead of terrorism) the headlines read: "Wife and Daughter Missing...FBI finds suspicious iphone at scene and now wants backdoor access to everyone's phone". Would you all just gleefully hand over your rights and freedoms in the hopes that my family is still alive?

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 19:33

101. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


You forgot to mention that you work for the government and that he should trust whatever you say...good luck getting his wife's number now you dumbass!!

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 06:44

40. shiftt (Posts: 333; Member since: 03 May 2015)


That's like saying the "BlackLivesMatter" movement is a "anti-white" movement. Neither of those are the case and you need to stop jumping to conclusions. There is a bigger picture beyond this case and the sooner you understand that, the better.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:39 3

61. downphoenix (Posts: 3151; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


No, allowing 4th amendment rights to be stripped is unamerican.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:43 2

74. cripton805 (Posts: 1416; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


The dumb award goes to this guy and everyone else that doesn't think the phone is a violation of privacy...

The 4th amendment states "Unreasonable search and seizure". This is beyond reasonable and everyone needs to STFU and let the FBI do their job and Apple needs to comply with a legal court order and be fined with contempt. Dumb asshats.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 13:52 2

84. marorun (Posts: 2899; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Nope at max apple need to take the phone unload all its info on a usb stick and send it to the FBI.

Creating backdoor and custom ios to crack phone should NEVER be put into any governement hand.

Its been seen often in the past thats governement love to discredit ppl using various informations now just think what could happen if they can use this backdoor to push stuff on your phone..

Lets say lil child porn pictures by exemple.

A door can be used both way so lets not create one!
If you dont see the implication you are the Dumbass.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 18:32

98. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1012; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


Its not any more unreasonable than taking laptops/desktops/servers and breaking into them, its exactly the same principle.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:25 2

71. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10595; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


There's so much stupid leaking from this comment.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:20

70. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3214; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


the phone has already been unlocked and .ost of the info taken a few things still need to be done.
and again pa stop saying the phone belonging to farook it was not his it was ca state public health office phone.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 12:10

81. MSi_GS70 (unregistered)


oh god this is such circus .. komedian show... another tricks only just to gain /earn money nothing else... PATHETIC

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:38 3

2. someone12 (Posts: 177; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


Let's see if it will affect Apple's sales

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:46 6

4. TerryTerius (Posts: 1441; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Honestly, that is the least important part of this entire problem... Well, maybe not to those who hold Apple stock. But this is getting to the fundamental limits of privacy in the digital age and how far those rights extend in the justice system. The broader implications of this case are really the important part. Not so much Apple itself. And this is not only true for Americans. If the US government can force Apple to open this phone, what exactly is stopping the government of any other country from asking the same of Apple or any other phone manufacturer?

As a secondary question, if we know you are guilty of (or are investigating you for) a crime to what extent are you allowed to withhold your information from the government? Is this covered by self-incrimination or not? There is a lot tied up in this, including the fact the Constitution doesn't really give you a fundamental right of privacy.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:48 2

5. htcisthebest (Posts: 134; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


It will be great if it does, in a negative way that is.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 01:05 5

10. vincelongman (Posts: 3980; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I doubt it will

If people were to boycott Apple they would be left with no options since Google and Microsoft are supporting Apple

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 18:32

99. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1012; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


Actually, Microsoft hasn't come out in support of Apple.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:06 1

30. Pattyface (Posts: 1511; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


I can't imagine it would

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:40 4

3. Sriniva1995 (Posts: 44; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)


I love the idea of encryption, but if the phone waa a terrorist phone I want it decrypted, also I don't support the idea of a back door.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:53 5

6. mercorp (Posts: 1021; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


No one can say that corrupt cops will exploit the tool for yheir own gain..let alone China or even worse north korea.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:08 3

31. Pattyface (Posts: 1511; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


That's the problem.. You can't be sure so why take that risk. We are slowly giving our rights away and most have no idea they are doing so

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:03 2

56. j2001m (Posts: 2758; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


As I have said many times, it's the owner of the phone asking for the unlock, all they need to happen is the fbi take it to Apple, Apple make a new software that easy to unlock
Removes the data, on to USB, gives back the data to the fbi
Then Apple put back the old software on the phone and give it back to the fbi, it then removes the software from there systems
And then to end it all, it removes the software auth key from there systems, so even if the software some how get leaked by bad staff it can not be reused in any way
(Fbi can also say Apple can destroy the phone if needed)

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:41

63. downphoenix (Posts: 3151; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


This is likely what will end up happening I'm sure.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:55 5

7. Arthurhkt (Posts: 411; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Although I am not a American, but since government are working the same way, I could say this might be one of their propaganda in order for them to find a reason to control over everything, start from inflict fear to the people, then the people will force the corporate to follow their"government" request. Let just say if Apple had follow the government request, soon other tech company may have to follow as well.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 01:18

12. TerryTerius (Posts: 1441; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


I disagree that it's entirely propaganda. They have an extremely legitimate reason for wanting to get into that phone. But of course, those within the government that want to be able to gain access to personal electronics are going to use this as an example of why they should be able to and paint themselves as only trying to protect the people. To be fair, it's difficult to know who legitimately believes that and who doesn't.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 01:38 8

15. Jimrod (Posts: 882; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


But they did get into the phone... Then locked it again with a new password.

This is the whole problem, they had access to the info they wanted and now they're using the whole "poor victims", "must stop terror" line again to get a way into everyone's private info - that's Apple's point. The FBI are the ones being devious here and stirring up hate and anger to get their way, as they always do...

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:31

33. TerryTerius (Posts: 1441; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


We don't actually know if that was the FBI or the police. All we know is that someone and law enforcement did.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 01:51 3

17. Arthurhkt (Posts: 411; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Of course up to now, we won't know who are the one behind all those attack, whether is truly terrorist act or another government propaganda. However, if the government simply needed Apple to unlock that particular iPhone and given the data to them, I am okay with that, in fact that is totally legitimate as it connected to the safety of the state. However the government request Apple to create a software for them to unlock the iPhone, which literally the government can just access to every iPhone as they want, this is where the question come in to my mind.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:23 3

60. Jimrod (Posts: 882; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


And now they want a dozen other phones unlocked... Surprise surprise. Next will be "we want 70 million phones unlocked... Just in-case!".

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:10

67. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


are 70million in their possession? Are the 12 in their possession?

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:34

72. Jimrod (Posts: 882; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


If the FBI make Apple develop software to unlock the iPhone, which is what they're asking - do you think they'll just hand it back to Apple when they're finished? Or might they make a copy? Perhaps?

Once it's made and put in FBI hands it's basically "out there" and available to use at will whenever they feel like it, on anyone's device. Would it take seasoned FBI hackers much effort to develop WiFi variants so everyone's phone could be hacked into as they're in public areas? I think Apple's point is that if they do this it's the tip of the iceberg for the FBI being able to access everyone's data at will.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 10:48 1

75. Techist (Posts: 225; Member since: 27 Jan 2015)


This is the problem with people who comment on things that they barely understand. The FBI has specifically stated that they do not want the software at all. They do not even want the iPhone back at all. The FBI has stated that they would be content with Apple figuring out a way to unlock that specific iPhone, extract the information, and pass the information to them. The FBI does not have to obtain or even understand the method.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 13:57 1

85. marorun (Posts: 2899; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Humm we must not have read same news..

They clearly asked for a custom ios installed on the phone so they can plug it themselve to a super computer and brute force it.

Wake up!

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 00:59 4

8. crestfallen (Posts: 23; Member since: 03 Apr 2014)


Those 38% of Americans have something to hide in their mobile phones.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:09 7

32. Pattyface (Posts: 1511; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


No those 38% care about their personal privacy

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:41 3

35. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


What privacy. Photos and what....? personall Infosys. Delete them. And be proud to sacrifice. And help combat terrorism.

That includes you that cares about privacy, but willing to give credit to terrorist.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 05:46 7

36. stanislav (Posts: 133; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Never go full retard

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 08:04 4

44. darkkjedii (Posts: 19470; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Exactly, post 35 was about as dumb as it gets. Arte8800 is plain stupid.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 08:54

52. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Never be a fanboy.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 16:46

97. stanislav (Posts: 133; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


I don't like apple, just don't like the idea people who arm and train terrorist to invade my personal space pretending that they are fighting with them.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 13:58 2

86. marorun (Posts: 2899; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Easy to combat terrorism just need to eliminate USA governements and some others as they mostly pay for all terrorist on this planet.

Also a door can be used both way so in the end they can take your info and also put info there... meaning they can put proof of stuff on your phone you never did.

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 09:08 1

57. j2001m (Posts: 2758; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


As the owner of the phone is asking there is no link to personal privacy
As I just said above the tool used is only used because the only the owner asked for the unlock and none owner
Also the auth can be removed from Apple server after the changes are made, it will take Apple about 5min to unlock this phone, it's joke

Please note I have way bigger problems if it was not the owner of the phone asking, but it's not and it the owner of the phone asking for the unlock

posted on 23 Feb 2016, 08:14 3

47. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Yeah like banking info, pictures, personal info and thoughts, all your contacts info...is none of that sacred anymore?

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